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1. Can you add sortable columns to the 'Rankings' page so you can click on the Rider 'Value' column and have the list sorted by rider value instead of its current sort by points scored?

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enrique | 9 years ago
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Aragonite wrote:

120 credits is a really tight budget for the Womens race.... Fancy Dion Smith for the U23's race.

Love to see looser budgets next year and the U23's have their own race...  1

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dave atkinson replied to Joelsim | 10 years ago
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Joelsim wrote:

I've got a good idea. Why don't we all just enjoy the game?

Amen to that. but a lot of the features of the current game have been user suggestions, so it's not a waste of time thinking about these things. not much will be changing ahead of 2015 though

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enrique replied to Theinvisiblecyclist | 10 years ago
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Theinvisiblecyclist wrote:

I get you because...

You had me at 'I get you'... I think I'll go watch 'Jerry McGuire' now... I'll say it again... 'You're a good man, chiv'  41

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enrique replied to drheaton | 10 years ago
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drheaton wrote:

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 4 I knew you'd like it...
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simon F wrote:

That would be the "Overall purist" league...

Gracias, caballo!  1

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chiv30 replied to ray silvester | 10 years ago
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ray silvester wrote:

I have plans next season to have a forum's scorum's two tier league....possibly calling it pro tour and continental.....with promotion and relegation perhaps?

I like the idea but how will the pro tour teams be selected for next year ....ie players per league?

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ray silvester replied to Joelsim | 10 years ago
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Joelsim wrote:

When was the last time Navardauskas scored anything. Oh...

201pts in the rolling calender year,although i'm sure he was youth points eligible for about half of it)....not bad.....and he's a good shout for yellow on stage 2 today?

And there was me thinking it would be Viviani the difference eh Joel?  105

Even if i did think it was Demare and not Ramunas at first.

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VVV73 replied to ray silvester | 10 years ago
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ray silvester wrote:

Bit late for the deadline although I've been touting him all weekend.....I like Paolini for today'stage 2 and my team's looking OK with the likes of Haussler,Sagan and Ramunas also in the mix

Tom Slagter? Ray.
I am a big fan of To0ms, he impressed the hell out of me, and every time he goes away , he comes back either faster(TDU,13') or tougher/stronger ( this year in Paris vasco, classics)

Yes I have Haussler in my teams too. I feel he has been quiet this year so far as IAM are targeting this race big time cause first year and want to consolidate a spot and Haussler has been primed to go bang. Look at the squad they bought , has to be their best if not.
I am very worried I forgot to bring Sagan in in standard. Tom Dumolin is my secret weapon in Purist too, I am hoping for something from him today too, Only went him and Sagan as sprinters there.

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VVV73 replied to ray silvester | 10 years ago
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ray silvester wrote:

Chava for IAM has a stage win in him somewhere too but he may well save his best for the French crowds and is not as good a value as HH?

Yeah for sure, Chava is one of the toughest riders I ever seen, so many times I seen him go down think he is out of race, then next minute he is at front attacking , ripped jersey flapping in wind LOL absolutely love him.

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enrique replied to enrique | 10 years ago
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enrique wrote:

Dave, can we have an option next year of having our first page to come up in the game be the rider selection page of the current competition?...

Dave, what I mean is this... Here I am... tired... dispirited... and I'm thinking about doing my transfers and then I realize I have to go sign in, land on the 'Home' page, to see my information for the whole year, which I'm not particularly interested in right now, then look up at the tabs to make sure I don't click on the women's comp, which will probably be there all season, then click on 'TDF'and then click again to 'Select Team', it's like a marathon... It takes almost as long to get to do my transfers as it does to read one of my posts!  1 Agh, I'm just a grumpy old man...  39

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enrique replied to Twybaydos | 10 years ago
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Twybaydos wrote:

... Formolo has done 12 stages... yet he is 17.9...

That's interesting... does that mean the algorithm just takes a look at points per type of stage but ignores number of days of racing in the last 12 months?...  39 That could explain why they're more expensive I guess...  39

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enrique replied to backflipbedlem | 9 years ago
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cgipryan wrote:

...It felt cruel to have nothing to do in the face of almost certain defeat. My heart is broken. For good...

 8 I feel your pain...  4 I'm sorry, really...  4 I mean it...  4 It's just a sort of crazy 'Glad it wasn't me!' scenario...  39 Funny, but tragic...
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cgipryan wrote:

... I really miss... when rider values were changing during each competition... it was... like buying... stocks...

I remember that... the 2011 Vuelta... I came in 119th at that competition... My first spreadsheet for the game... In fact, you'll see a screenshot of the team I think I had for a mountain stage below... I became addicted after that...  45 It was so cool to see your budget inch up 'cause your rider values had appreciated!  41 Hugely unfair for the uninitiated, despairing when your budget went down, nerve wracking, but ultimately intensely engaging! Wow!  1

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backflipbedlem wrote:

1.... penalty transfers...

... I end up with no riders to cheer on! And it moves the standard nearer to being a purist comp.

2.... to see... what type of stage it was....

3.... a running total for ... badges over the season...

4.... the prizes...

... I like.
... the new bonus comps... Overall still the best game out there! ...

Nice list, flippy... I echo your sentiments...

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enrique replied to dave atkinson | 9 years ago
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enrique wrote:

... We must tweak the rider value algorithm...

Dave Atkinson wrote:

... maybe we'll try a quicker fall-off in value for an upcoming race to see how it affects the dynamic...

That's a nice thought!  1
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Dave Atkinson wrote:

...you're... lazy.

That's not...  45
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enrique wrote:

... I miss the rider stats that said how many teams had a particular rider on their team...

Dave Atkinson wrote:

... they never actually worked...

I guess the query counted the riders on both Purist and Standard teams and calculated a percentage from all teams entered?...  39 I'd settle for just a count of riders and not a percentage, if that's implementable...

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Ummm... Just for the record... You amaze me, Dave...  3

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dave atkinson replied to Joelsim | 9 years ago
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Joelsim wrote:

The values have been a bit strange, for instance Marini and McLay are 20 ish and Mareczko is 3. They are pretty similar in talent and results.

the engine can only count results that have been part of a competition in the game though, so there's always going to be discrepancies. to exploit, i might add.

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enrique replied to backflipbedlem | 9 years ago
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backflipbedlem wrote:

I love how much effort goes into your posts...

It's painful, really... It really hurts when I try to make sense out of all the stupidity in my brain... with all my limited brain function, immaturity and schizophrenia coinciding in my brain and competing for attention...  45 It's not easy, I tell you...  20

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enrique replied to dave atkinson | 10 years ago
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Joelsim wrote:

I've got a good idea. Why don't we all just enjoy the game?

That's a good idea... As soon as I cure my compulsive obsessive disorder, I'll get on it... Just kidding...

Dave Atkinson wrote:

... a lot of the features of the current game have been user suggestions, so it's not a waste of time thinking about these things...

Amen to that, too...

Dave Atkinson wrote:

... not much will be changing ahead of 2015 though

Dave, can the first order of business in 2015 be the 'Reset button'?  4 I would probably use it just about every day... It's very helpful for us 'scatter brained people' Just today, as soon as I hit 'Confirm,' I realized, 'Wait! Where's Danny Van Poppel?' but I had already selected poor old Thor 'cause I failed to see Van Poppel on the game start list  2

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drheaton replied to chiv30 | 10 years ago
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chiv30 wrote:
ray silvester wrote:

I have plans next season to have a forum's scorum's two tier league....possibly calling it pro tour and continental.....with promotion and relegation perhaps?

I like the idea but how will the pro tour teams be selected for next year ....ie players per league?

Great idea, I'd say top 18 are in the pro tour (as per the real thing) although maybe throw out some wildcards for the GTs?

Then it could either be just the rest in the lower one or perhaps 30 in the pro-conti and the rest split geographically in UCI Asia/Europe/America leagues?

One thing I always wanted to try was a team of teams league, 9 players get together for a tour and their scores are used to work out how well their team did so for example the top scoring player would earn their team the stage win, the overall best player the GC etc etc BUT the big prize would be the team prize which would be calculated by taking the best three individual player scores per team per stage and combining them.

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VVV73 replied to ray silvester | 10 years ago
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ray silvester wrote:
Joelsim wrote:

When was the last time Navardauskas scored anything. Oh...

201pts in the rolling calender year,although i'm sure he was youth points eligible for about half of it)....not bad.....and he's a good shout for yellow on stage 2 today?

And there was me thinking it would be Viviani the difference eh Joel?  105

Even if i did think it was Demare and not Ramunas at first.

I must say, besides Viviani, the others were 3 very very nice picks, I was quite impressed when I read the H2H .. Tommy Slagter my outside tip today.
I hope you will continue to share thoughts with me Ray, much appreciated.

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VVV73 replied to VVV73 | 10 years ago
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ray silvester wrote:

Chava for IAM has a stage win in him somewhere too but he may well save his best for the French crowds and is not as good a value as HH?

Yeah for sure, Chava is one of the toughest riders I ever seen, so many times I seen him go down think he is out of race, then next minute he is at front attacking , ripped jersey flapping in wind LOL absolutely love him.

P.s. ALL the IAM squad are peaking so hard atm. after the Suisse, I really like Brandle and bit less Hollenstien for future.

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dave atkinson replied to enrique | 10 years ago
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enrique wrote:

Dave, can we have an option next year of having our first page to come up in the game be the rider selection page of the current competition?...

Dave, what I mean is this... Here I am... tired... dispirited... and I'm thinking about doing my transfers and then I realize I have to go sign in, land on the 'Home' page, to see my information for the whole year, which I'm not particularly interested in right now, then look up at the tabs to make sure I don't click on the women's comp, which will probably be there all season, then click on 'TDF'and then click again to 'Select Team', it's like a marathon... It takes almost as long to get to do my transfers as it does to read one of my posts!  1 Agh, I'm just a grumpy old man...  39

so what you're saying is you have to click two buttons? the humanity.

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enrique replied to dave atkinson | 10 years ago
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Dave Atkinson wrote:

so what you're saying is you have to click two buttons? the humanity.

It's not just that, it's the rolling of the eyes, too... Could you get rid of the women's competition tabs for me?... That might make it less confusing... I'm very sensitive and so geared to the Tour de France that every time I click on the Women's World Cup, which happens every day practically, I puke, I just can't help it, I just can't control the mouse like I used to back in the day... Maybe I'm getting too old for this...  39

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ray silvester replied to chiv30 | 10 years ago
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chiv30 wrote:
ray silvester wrote:

I have plans next season to have a forum's scorum's two tier league....possibly calling it pro tour and continental.....with promotion and relegation perhaps?

I like the idea but how will the pro tour teams be selected for next year ....ie players per league?

It'll probably be Top thirty and all equal scorers in the Pro Tour level and everyone else in Pro Conti with 5 promoted and relegated each season?

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enrique replied to enrique | 10 years ago
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enrique wrote:

Dave, can we have an option next year of having our first page to come up in the game be the rider selection page of the current competition?...

Dave, I don't think we need a 'Home' tab, honestly, I don't think anybody ever really stops there except because it's where you land when you log in.... It's just a click-through page to get to the current competition in my opinion... Why don't you change the 'Home' page to a 'Badges' page and stick that in the background somewhere? I don't think badges are a talking point anymore, really, and, well, old people like me just want to go to the current competition to get our fix of our daily adrenaline rush...  39 I hate to sound demeaning, but could you get rid of the 'Women's World Tour' Tabs, too? Not the races, just the tabs... In my rush to get to the TDF and the constant jiggling of tabs and the jiggling of the page layout due to the huge ads wreaking havoc on the page design I have to wait more than 1 second to click on the TDF tab, which is quite annoying in this day and age... In my haste I have been forced to go to the Women's World Tour on more than one occasion because of my haste in clicking...  39 Something should be done about that...  45

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backflipbedlem replied to dave atkinson | 9 years ago
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Dave Atkinson wrote:
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Also miss the prizes from last year

we'll be having prizes for the bigger races still, but there were a lot of issues with the prizes and we didn't feel we could commit to a prize for every stage of every competition. that being said, i'm going to look at reinstating (and backdating) at least a winner's prize for everything. so you could be in luck  3

Wooooo!
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TERatcliffe26 replied to enrique | 10 years ago
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enrique wrote:
enrique wrote:

Dave, can we have an option next year of having our first page to come up in the game be the rider selection page of the current competition?...

Dave, I don't think we need a 'Home' tab, honestly, I don't think anybody ever really stops there except because it's where you land when you log in.... It's just a click-through page to get to the current competition in my opinion... Why don't you change the 'Home' page to a 'Badges' page and stick that in the background somewhere? I don't think badges are a talking point anymore, really, and, well, old people like me just want to go to the current competition to get our fix of our daily adrenaline rush...  39 I hate to sound demeaning, but could you get rid of the 'Women's World Tour' Tabs, too? Not the races, just the tabs... In my rush to get to the TDF and the constant jiggling of tabs and the jiggling of the page layout due to the huge ads wreaking havoc on the page design I have to wait more than 1 second to click on the TDF tab, which is quite annoying in this day and age... In my haste I have been forced to go to the Women's World Tour on more than one occasion because of my haste in clicking...  39 Something should be done about that...  45

I use the home tab to check my overall standing, and to switch those standings between my normal and purist teams. I find it useful anyway

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enrique replied to TERatcliffe26 | 10 years ago
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I use the home tab to check my overall standing, and to switch those standings between my normal and purist teams...

I guess I never check my overall standings, especially during a competition... I could probably do without seeing my overall standing for the whole time a race is going on... Well, Dave, maybe you could rename the 'Home' tab 'Overall Standings'... or maybe you could have a checkbox somewhere that - if selected - would take you staright to your rider selection page every time you log in. I guess I'm just lazy and don't want to click 1 time to get to the competition and then another to select the riders.... It's too many clicks and my fingers hurt...  39 I guess I'm just annoyable.. and annoying... and unreasonable...  39

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backflipbedlem replied to dave atkinson | 9 years ago
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Dave Atkinson wrote:
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Also miss the prizes from last year

we'll be having prizes for the bigger races still, but there were a lot of issues with the prizes and we didn't feel we could commit to a prize for every stage of every competition. that being said, i'm going to look at reinstating (and backdating) at least a winner's prize for everything. so you could be in luck  3

Wooooo!
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enrique replied to dave atkinson | 9 years ago
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Dave Atkinson wrote:

... we'll try a quicker fall-off in value for an upcoming race to see how it affects the dynamic....

ouch... not much of that (!) happening in Romandie...  22 I'm back to a team with 4 'stars' and 5 3.0 or so riders for this race...  2 What a difference from the team we could pick for the Trentino TTT... I guess the difference is the field for Romandie truly is world class and that means lots of high value riders...  39 Hmmm... I think I meant to post this on the Romandie thread, not here..

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drheaton | 10 years ago
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Patience is all relative, over the last few months I have had little patience I agree, over the last couple of years though I've had a huge amount of patience and that is now totally worn out.

For the last two years enrique has gone through cycles of being friendly and laid back only to ramp it up and be an incessant pain in the arse, he makes solid suggestions for minor changes to the game which are implemented then takes this as his chance to suggest huge overhauls of the game mechanics constantly. When these are refused for valid reasons hen then keeps suggesting them time after time for months on end.

Last July enrique was given a time out for his behaviour which seemed to improve things hugely, I even got a nice apology email, that all seems a long time ago now.

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Theinvisiblecyclist replied to drheaton | 10 years ago
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drheaton wrote:

Patience is all relative, over the last few months I have had little patience I agree, over the last couple of years though I've had a huge amount of patience and that is now totally worn out.

For the last two years enrique has gone through cycles of being friendly and laid back only to ramp it up and be an incessant pain in the arse, he makes solid suggestions for minor changes to the game which are implemented then takes this as his chance to suggest huge overhauls of the game mechanics constantly. When these are refused for valid reasons hen then keeps suggesting them time after time for months on end.

Last July enrique was given a time out for his behaviour which seemed to improve things hugely, I even got a nice apology email, that all seems a long time ago now.

That's all well and good but as I said you simply jumped on him in ur previous post for no reason , he wasn't banging on about anything just taking some pride in the fact that one of his major gripes with the game had been implemented , he even acknowledged the fact you had shown him some recognition.
I can't see how his post managed to get you so wound up, after all to quote yourself , you have spent time out from the forum because you didn't like the atmosphere,

I'n this instance it is you creating the atmosphere and nobody else so only yourself to blame, surely  7

Ref getting an email from him , at least he was man enough to do that and for that he should be credited because it seems that is a step further than road.cc admin are willing to go to to try to resolve any issues

Of course this is just my 2p worth

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enrique replied to drheaton | 10 years ago
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Theinvisiblecyclist wrote:

His... post is just indicating that some of his suggestions have been implemented... he was... just taking... pride in the fact that one of his [suggestions]... had been implemented, he even acknowledged the fact you had shown him some recognition...  39

You get me  1 Thank you.

drheaton wrote:

... I even got a nice apology email...

Theinvisiblecyclist wrote:

... at least he was man enough to do that...

I remember well...

enrique wrote:

Dan, I'm sorry. I have wanted to get back on, but, obviously, haven't been able to. I, whether you believe it or not, never intended to rile you up. And I wrote more for other people than for you. Sometimes, frankly, I was amazed that you responded. I love bouncing ideas around, really, and try (try!) to reason all the time, research my answers, choose my words, etc...

Sometimes I'll have spent a good 15 minutes mulling over what I want to say before I write it. I felt pretty bad when you called me a troll. But I felt awful when you thought my idea was awful. I know I was simplistic, but I put a little thought into it! I'm sorry. I apologize. I miss the game. And I miss the forum. I want to come back. And just play. Just be around. No offense taken, no resentments. I just feel out of place without being able to play the game. Can we talk?... July 23, 2013

I'm very sentimental about these things...

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