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I disagree, I think it works better as it is. In previous seasons the KoM points were closer to those awarded and it skewed the emphasis of the game too far towards picking the break. If a rider can score 50 or 60 points in a break without winning a stage or even finishing top 20 I think it unbalances things.
I also think it makes the game too unpredictable. Unpredictability is good but not to the extent that to get a good score you need to pick half the guys in the break.
Ultimately it's Dave's call how points are awarded next year but I prefer how it's working in the Dauphine as I think its a good balance, picking a guy in the break is good but if you concentrate on high finishing positions then you're not really at a disadvantage. That means there are multiple valid tactics and not everyone is trying to chase the break.
Some of the races we don't know the amount of points they are awarding for the mountains (until the race has begun), therefore to set a scoring criteria its fairer to just say 5 down to 1 if 5 riders score for example
Im with chiv on this one...In my opinion it would liven up the game and more rewarding for picking breakaway riders and not just sitting with safe points...
I think in the GT's they do Chiv.
As for converting it doesn't change things as we type in a value in anyway, in fact its easier working back from say 5 for 1st down to 1 for 5th for example.
Just been thinking and not sure if it's been suggested before so take it easy on my please .....
Mountain category points , can't they be changed to reflect the points the riders actually receive in the race rather than the fantasy substituted points? It would make the game harder but also in a twisted way a lot closer , ie if someone picks a breakaway rider who manages to take most of the mountain points on an alpine type stage they would likely score massively , and as breakaway riders are usually picked as gambles it could drag that person right up the table and leave them the dilemma of going for overall or continue stage hunting .....
Also I'd assume it would be easier to score for you guys as there is no conversion to make from race to game
As I said not sure if it's already been covered or not
Thanks
I thought somebody had asked before and I found it in the "New Stage Scoring Table Feedback and Wish List" thread
! If it weren't for the different ways different races score them, I'd agree too!
pay premium and you get the 12 month points
Got to say that was a better approach enrique!!
Dave, just noticed the "Riders in this comp" "All riders" buttons on the 'Rankings'page... Nice! How about two more for "Points Current Competition" and "Points Last 12 months"?
Dave, with a whole lot of us contemplating wholesale chnages to our team and trying to fit in a different set of "fillers" for the Ardennes, it reallly would be nice to see all rider values as opposed to just the ones that are riding just the next stage (in this case Brabantse Pijl).
Could we have the http://fantasy.road.cc/riders page do that for us, like it used to?... This may be the only competition where we have changing start lists for each stage, of course, but I always thought it was pretty neat to see all rider values, and their total points for the year, at will anyawys. Thank you!
I also thought this was another idea worth considering. It'd be nice to be able to sort, once a competition has started, on the amount of points the rider has within a competition.
On your last point Enrique, why should the transfers not used be lost? A standard player doesn't loose them as they can role over 2 so why you saying a premium player loose them.
Im sure youve got it in your head that all premium players somehow gain magic transfers somewhere. as before the start of stage 20 having made 2 transfers for stage 19 I had the 2 given to me for stage 20, putting me in the same position as standard player, and leaving me 4 for tomorrow, the same as a standard player could. No advantage at all for me.
Nah...
I see your point... I didn't write it out clearly... I can see that what I wrote:
... seemed to be directed at Premium players but I meant both (!) should lose the transfers for the cancelled day... It's not a major point though, I'd be ok with both (!) keeping the cancelled stage transfers...
Although, it does bring me to this (below) which is what I would really like...
And for me this would be the ultimate act of fairness in this game (Drum roll, please!)
Dave, how about this? How about you offer Standard Players a choice when you sign up:
Option A: Play for free with Standard transfers - No more than (2) transfers can be banked a day - and the chance you can win any of the competition prizes OR...
Option B: Play with No (!) expiration of transfers - just like a Premium Player does - but you play just for the joy of the game.
Meaning you are not playing for a bike, a pump, a helmet, a pat on the back or anything (!) at all!
That (!) would make my day and would be the ultimate (!) option. And, of course, I would forever shut up about transfers!
Of course, I would pick option B (!) Who cares about the bike?... I care about the excitement of the game! And I obviously don't mean to speak for all Standard Players out there...
Ok, nuff said (!) I am forced to admit even I am tiring of transfer talk Whew! Let's enjoy the race!
Apologies that I don't know how to properly add quotes from previous posts without taking the whole post, but if it's possible to do that then I will learn it later, I promise.
I just wanted to add that I like this idea of Enrique's:
enrique wrote:
"...Being able to make all the changes I want to my team and have transfers charged only at the end of a transfer deadline...
Basically, in a stage such as today the transfer deadline would be moved to the next stage and your transfers would never have become realized because the game organizers could move or cancel the transfer deadline and transfers wouldn't have taken place..."
http://spokenspin.blogspot.com/
Thanks!
enrique I have made my point so please stop quoting me and shut the fuck up....Sorry if this offends anyone but everyone has their breaking point....Complete and utter tit...
Dude, chill out! I apologize, really...
Remember the words of the venerable master, Gkam:
Heh heh, on the other hand, I have to admire a man who's so in touch with his emotional side!
Remember this?
Take it easy... Go out for a ride... Hold your girlfriend's hands! I, mean, I know you have one because you said:
It's just a game and just a forum Life is good! I mean you at least have a girlfriend, a bike, two legs and you've won a stage in the Giro here! What more could you want? Chill out, let it all out, come back and I'll be here to welcome you with open arms! I'm not here to battle it out with you
Here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SPK58-8LXk
Download this song. Listen to it, sing along, and think of me... And my most sincere apologies for pissing you off
My kindest and most soothing thoughts go out to you and yours...
Out of curiosity, Steve, is your girlfriend as avid a fan of this game as you are? And do you manage her account or does she make her own choices? What's her user ID? Is she playing the Tour? Is she beating you?...
Just a quick apology for my swear word in the above post...with hindsight maybe on arriving home from the pub on a friday evening is not the best time to speak ones mind but whats done is done......That said, the messsage remains the same, enrique please find someone else to stalk, Im tired of you taking bits from old posts of mine and re-posting them in a contorted fashion....
Apology accepted... All's cool... Peace?...
On the stats pages I would like to have the ability to see how many FC points a rider had achieved in the current competition and in the current season. Preferably for any chosen period of time too.
I am not concerned if it is too difficult but I would certainly use it if it were a feature.
I agree... I dug up some old suggestions from the "Suggestions for 2012 Season" thread that, though universally hated, I think would fix this issue...
and...
Basically, in a stage such as today the transfer deadline would be moved to the next stage and your transfers would never have become realized because the game organizers could move or cancel the transfer deadline and transfers wouldn't have taken place...
I also think the second option addresses this point, too:
Having said that, and just to be clear, I also agree that having the transfers available for use for Premium players at a later stage is inherently unfair. If the stage gets cancelled you should lose the transfers that were to be awarded for that day's stage...
You're Jeremy Clarkson aren't you?
No... I am... Iron Man... (Cue Black Sabbath song) :)!
When you click 'Switch Team' would it be possible to go back to the page you were on? E.g. if I click switch team while on the 'My Team' page it should automatically take me back there instead of to the Dashboard page.
A request more than a suggestion really.
Last year I had two accounts running a standard and purist team. I did really well on my purist team with a 2nd in the Vuelta and I'd quite like to bring those Palmares over onto my Premium account which is now hosting both teams.
Would it be possible to reference two accounts in a Palmares page?
I agree with lukea-d, its easier to manage your team when they are lined up in value order
Liking the 10 points rather than 20 points for penalty transfers. Already used it as I think it will pay off. I never felt like that when it was 20 points. Always to big a gamble- but not now
On the 'My Team' and 'Pick team' views, would it be possible to have the riders listed in order of value rather the order in which they were picked? This would make it easier when managing multiiple transfers. Maybe even the option to sort your team however you wanted, e.g. role, value, points scored, etc.
yeah probably...
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