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The Giro Purist thread

I figured the purist comp deserved a separate thread so we can keep purist discussions separate from the main stage threads.

My Purist team is climber biased:

Wiggins
Nibali
Scarponi
Santambrogio
Betancur
Majka
Pantano
Locatelli
Gavazzi

Gavazzi is my only 'sprinter' but I've effectively got 5 team leaders and Betancur who I think will be stronger than Pozzovivo, at least to start with.

Majka and Betancur are in there for young rider points as is Locatelli although he and Pantano are my breakaway guys.  Gavazzi, I hope, can feature in a few flat stages but I shied away from Bouhanni or Cav as just don't see their being enough stages for them to make them worth picking over the likes of Santambrogio or Scarponi.

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JAndrewHill | 11 years ago
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my purists are all italian.
nibali
scarponi
viviani
tiralongo
bennati
santambrogio
rosa
garzelli
cattaneo

couple of sprinters but more focussed on the hills

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Ghedebrav | 11 years ago
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As discussed elsewhere, I went (as far as I could) for an all-Colombian purist. They are:

Henao
Uran
Rubiano
Sarmiento
Duque
Betancur
Pantano
Serpa
Rodriguez (token Venezuelan)

I generally fail spectacularly at Purist, so thought I'd have a bit of fun with it.

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iammarcmason | 11 years ago
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Bradley Wiggins
Michele Scarponi
Robert Gesink
Matteo Rabottini
Rigoberto Uran
Mattia Gavazzi
Luka Mezgec
Julien Berard
Stefano Garzelli

I think Gesink who has been fairly quiet recently could do quite well.

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Gkam84 | 11 years ago
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Looking at the teams, I'm more and more happy that no-one is looking like this

Bradley Wiggins (DUH)
Ryder Hesjedal (No-one else is picking him, he should score well)
Vicenzo Nibali (Double Duh)
Michele Scarponi (Has been in good form, should score well)
Jorge Azanza (Always have a Euski)
Julien Berard (Don't know what I was thinking)
Thomas Dekker (Decent wee climber and can TT)
Vladimir Karpets (Climbs and has cool hair)
Stefano Locatelli (Sprints? Breaks? Climbs? TT? Abandons?)

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Alan Tullett replied to Gkam84 | 11 years ago
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Well, my pretend purist team has the same big three. Be interesting to see how our other picks go.

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Alan Tullett | 11 years ago
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My team for purist

Mark Cavendish (OPQ)
Elia Viviani (LIQ)
Nacer Bouhanni (FDJ)
Taylor Phinney (BMC)
Samuel Sanchez (EUS)
Matti Breschel (SAX)
Oscar Gatto (VIN)
Mattia Gavazzi (AND)
Luka Mezgec (ARG)

to be honest this is an unashamed attempt to win stage podiums and high roller badges as I have no interest in the prize and it was me who suggested the numbers on the badges to begin with.

My real purist team to win would be:

Wiggins
Hesjedal
Nibali
Santambroglio
Betancur
Locatelli
Pellizotti
Battaglin
Mezgec

might score it myself if I can be bothered.

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drheaton | 11 years ago
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Yeah, very excited to have 'proper' racing back again  4

I've said elsewhere that the Giro is my favourite race and I'm really hoping to do well, I'm glad my team is very similar to Wig_Billy's, that means I'm likely to do well but I missed Pirazzi and that's actually a really good shout. When I looked at the race I considered GC and young rider but didn't really think overly much about KoM because it generally ends up going to a random pick but I think Pirazzi may go hard for it this year.

I hope he crashes today...

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chrisdstripes | 11 years ago
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I agree drh - Scarponi could well be a good shout. I think Gesink could also go well (with Mollema likely to lead Blanco in the TdF), but he's been rubbish every time I've picked him in the past so I decided to leave him out, and put a fiver on him to finish on the podium instead!

Betancur and Sammy S are the two that I could really do with having a bad time of it - expecting them to feature in a lot of teams.

Regardless of the game though, just really excited to have a grand tour back on, and for it to be getting so much coverage.

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Wig_Billy | 11 years ago
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I have a similar team to you drh.

Wiggins
Nibali
Scarponi
Betancur
Santambrogio
Pirazzi
Di Luca
Gavazzi
Dekker

Hoping Pirazzi has a go for the KOM jersey.

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drheaton | 11 years ago
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Yeah, stacking climbers basically means you're hoping all your riders get to the last week without any incidents and in some form whereas the sprinters can get you points on the board nice and early.

I'm liking the fact that not many people seem to be picking Scarponi, he's my outside tip for a podium and I think he's in better form than most people realise, hoping for a couple of stage wins as he tries to claw back the bags of time he loses on the ITT.

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chrisdstripes | 11 years ago
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I did stick with Cav in the end - I'm hoping there might be a couple more sprint finishes than people seem to think. My main concern with stacking it with climbers was that their main chances to score don't come until later on. Still...
The first 5 names on the sheet were...
Wiggins
Nibali
Locatelli
Santambrogio
Gavazzi
The rest changed several times, before I stuck with...
Cavendish
Bole
Pellizotti (really no idea, but thought it might be worth a gamble)
Jeannesson (I like him. If he's not in good enough condition to ride with the big boys, he's as likely as anyone to get in those breakaways...)

Didn't want to be too risky, as I'm 5th overall in purist at the mo. Still a couple of wildcards tho!

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Stumps | 11 years ago
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Didn't pick Wiggins for mine, kept in Cav.

Michele Scarponi
Thomas Dekker
Alex Dowsett
Mauro Santambrogio
Mark Cavendish
Stefano Garzelli
Pieter Weening
Vicenzo Nibali
Stefano Pirazzi

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ray silvester replied to Stumps | 11 years ago
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stumps wrote:

Didn't pick Wiggins for mine, kept in Cav.

Michele Scarponi
Thomas Dekker
Alex Dowsett
Mauro Santambrogio
Mark Cavendish
Stefano Garzelli
Pieter Weening
Vicenzo Nibali
Stefano Pirazzi

That's looking pretty decent stumpy?

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ray silvester | 11 years ago
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The other thing with Sanchez is that IF he gets his much desired stage win it's quite likely he'll crest a few KOM's on the way and he could easily have a blockbuster 'Voeckler' type stage.

Either way he'll either be in contention on GC picking up regular points or if he falls behind he could easily pull off a 'spetacollo'.....for cheaper than Nizzolo or Kiserlovski(did-dig arsene  3 )

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arsene replied to ray silvester | 11 years ago
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ray silvester wrote:

The other thing  4 with Sanchez is that IF he gets his much desired stage win it's quite likely he'll crest a few KOM's on the way and he could easily have a blockbuster 'Voeckler' type stage.

Either way he'll either be in contention on GC picking up regular points or if he falls behind he could easily pull off a 'spetacollo'.....for cheaper than Nizzolo or Kiserlovski(did-dig arsene)

Ya but they both know the Giro much better than Sanchez. Also Nizzolo can contest all sprint stages and I rate Kiserlovski higher than Sanchez regarding the overall. Plus Radio Shack got a fine ttt line-up.  4
One rider i'd really like to have is Felline tho. Hes good on hillier stages.

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djb123 | 11 years ago
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I went for all Italians as I am rubbish at this sort of thing:
Nibali
Scarponi
Modolo
Santambrogio
Aru
Pirazzi
Rosa
Viviani
Marangoni

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livestrongnick | 11 years ago
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ok so my purist team

Wiggins
Nibali
Santambrogio
Sammy S
Betancur
Durbridge
Chicchi
Ludvigsson
Cattaneo

Not very good at this purist lark so fingers crossed and all that  7

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arsene | 11 years ago
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Here's my team:
Hesjedal
Nibali
Kiserlovski
Nizzolo
Santambrogio
Atapuma
Aru
Pellizotti
Battaglin

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ray silvester | 11 years ago
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Great minds think alike on Gavazzi.....let's hope he can stay between the...ahem....'white lines'?

Surprised no Samu though Dr?

I guess a Cav blue jersey in Brescia would kill us both though!!

Wiggins(must have)
Nibali(ditto)
Weening(great form)
Garzelli(a last swansong)
Gavazzi(likely to be there at the end-hometown=Brescia)
Sanchez(bargain of the Giro for me)
Betancur(youth)
Aru(youth)
Ludviggson(breaks + decent TT)

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drheaton replied to ray silvester | 11 years ago
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ray silvester wrote:

Great minds think alike on Gavazzi.....let's hope he can stay between the...ahem....'white lines'?

Surprised no Samu though Dr?

I guess a Cav blue jersey in Brescia would kill us both though!!

Wiggins(must have)
Nibali(ditto)
Weening(great form)
Garzelli(a last swansong)
Gavazzi(likely to be there at the end-hometown=Brescia)
Sanchez(bargain of the Giro for me)
Betancur(youth)
Aru(youth)
Ludviggson(breaks + decent TT)

I 100% don't see Cav winning the points jersey. For Cav to win the jersey he needs to win every point he can on flat stages and at intermediate sprints and he needs for the climbers to all be taking points from each other in the hills, I don't see both happening.

Also, even 5 stage wins wouldn't probably score as many fantasy points as Nibali who's priced about the same.

I considered both Weening and Sanchez, Weening in particular as his team has no real mountain leader so he should be free to do as he pleases, but both I'm not sure if he can sustain his form from a month or so ago, he was already starting to fall off in the Ardennes. Sanchez though was a tough one, he's been in poor form and his stated ambitions are very low (just wants a stage win) so I'm not sure he sees himself as an actual contender but he's cheap for a guy who could realistically podium.

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ray silvester replied to ray silvester | 11 years ago
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ray silvester wrote:

Great minds think alike on Gavazzi.....let's hope he can stay between the...ahem....'white lines'?

Surprised no Samu though Dr?

I guess a Cav red jersey in Brescia would kill us both though!!

Wiggins(must have)
Nibali(ditto)
Weening(great form)
Garzelli(a last swansong)
Gavazzi(likely to be there at the end-hometown=Brescia)
Sanchez(bargain of the Giro for me)
Betancur(youth)
Aru(youth)
Ludviggson(breaks + decent TT)

Well there's some chickens home to roost re Cav,Gavazzi,Wiggo and even Samu to a certain extent.

I guess from that you'll know how my Giro went  14

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