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Disc brakes to be permitted in peloton in 2017

UCI announcement imminent; they’re also examining 6.8kg minimum bike weight rule

Disc brakes will be introduced in professional road racing in 2017, according to a source involved in discussions between the UCI, cycle sport’s world governing body, and the bike industry regarding race equipment. The UCI has also opened discussions with the bike industry concerning the possibility of amending the 6.8kg minimum bike weight rule and the ‘3:1’ rule that applies to the frame, fork, handlebar, stem and seatpost.

The UCI is currently reviewing many of the rules regarding race equipment in consultation with committees from the World Federation of the Sporting Goods Industry (WFSGI), a body that includes many of the biggest players in the bike industry.

The WFSGI’s Bicycle Committee is essentially the voice of the bike industry as far as the UCI and International Olympic Committee (IOC) are concerned. The Bicycle Committee comprises three sub-committees: the Wheel Committee, the Saddle Committee, and the Technical Committee that includes a Disc Brake Working Group.

Our source told us unequivocally that after consultations with the WFSGI’s Technical Committee, the UCI will allow the use of disc brakes in the pro peloton the season after next. An official announcement will be made very soon, certainly within the next month.

We reported last year that Jeroen Snijders Blok of the WFSGI had said that he expected disc brakes to appear in the pro peloton in 2016, but it now looks like it’ll be the following year.

At a WFSGI public meeting at Taipei Cycle last week, Snijders Blok refused to give any indication of the timescale for the introduction of disc brakes but he did confirm that an announcement was imminent, the timing of that announcement to be agreed with the UCI.

Snijders Blok also indicated that the introduction would be wholesale rather than staggered with some disc brakes permitted in some road races but not in others.

“There will be a fixed date, said Snijders Blok. “As of this date disc brakes will be allowed in road racing. Period.

“With the UCI, we are aiming for a level playing field for all manufacturers so they have as much time as possible for the introduction of disc brakes.”

Yves Mori, the WFSGI’s Communication and Bicycle Manager, said, “We have had a lot of meetings with the UCI over the past year and many conference calls within the industry, and we have provided the technical requirements documentation to the UCI addressing all technical issues. They brought forward requests regarding the heat of a road disc brake, for example, which may be an issue. We have answered all of these questions from the UCI.

“Then they asked for an overview of the status of the Pro Tour teams, where they all stand and whether tests have already been done or not.

“We collected a lot of information and shared this with the UCI, and we also made a proposal on the introduction procedure. I think we can say that we are very close to an agreement on the introduction timing and the introduction mode and that will be communicated together with the UCI very soon.”

“The UCI have said that they will start the process of approving frames that use disc brakes as soon as it is announced. They have said that they have no fears that this will be an issue for the introduction into pro racing.

“Companies need some time to adjust their products for a rule change and this is always taken into consideration in discussions between the WFSGI and the UCI.”

That’s a further indication that 2016 is too soon for the introduction.

Yves Mori also announced that the UCI has indicated that other key equipment regulations are now up for discussion, including the best known: the 6.8kg minimum bike weight for UCI-approved races.

Referring to a recent meeting between the WFSGI and the UCI, Mori said, “The UCI threw into the room the topics of the possible removal of the 3:1 regulation [where the length of the cross section of frame tubes and various other bike elements must not exceed three times the width - Ed] plus the removal of the 6.8kg weight limit. They asked for the opinions of the industry.

“We promised to collect information from all of our members and to give a statement at a later stage. Just that you know topics that UCI are thinking about but the work has not been started yet.”

Snijders Blok added, “What we see here with the soon announcement of disc brakes, the 3:1 regulation, the 6.8kg weight limitation, with changes on saddles [the UCI has asked for a report from the WFSGI concerning the current saddle regulations - Ed], the UCI has became a completely different organisation when it comes to innovation and when it comes to co-operation with the bicycle industry.”

Mat has been in cycling media since 1996, on titles including BikeRadar, Total Bike, Total Mountain Bike, What Mountain Bike and Mountain Biking UK, and he has been editor of 220 Triathlon and Cycling Plus. Mat has been road.cc technical editor for over a decade, testing bikes, fettling the latest kit, and trying out the most up-to-the-minute clothing. He has won his category in Ironman UK 70.3 and finished on the podium in both marathons he has run. Mat is a Cambridge graduate who did a post-grad in magazine journalism, and he is a winner of the Cycling Media Award for Specialist Online Writer. Now over 50, he's riding road and gravel bikes most days for fun and fitness rather than training for competitions.

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crikey | 9 years ago
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...and yet I have ridden with at least two large groups of riders this year who had a mix of discs and rim brakes.
No one died.
The whole debate has been over done; it's just a different way of slowing down, a bit better in the wet, still dependent on the big meaty blob on the saddle and the two skinny bits of rubber on the road.

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Hypoxic replied to crikey | 9 years ago
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crikey wrote:

...and yet I have ridden with at least two large groups of riders this year who had a mix of discs and rim brakes.
No one died.
The whole debate has been over done; it's just a different way of slowing down, a bit better in the wet, still dependent on the big meaty blob on the saddle and the two skinny bits of rubber on the road.

Spot on!
For pros (on tubs, closed roads and experienced riders all around) I can only think of it being an advantage in the wet.
Although it will probably also be advantageous if you're in the bike industry.
Future's secured for another 15 years of teasing out incremental advances to the frenzied market place... here we go again.
Wake me up when we can finally buy some genetically engineered leg muscles to replace the crap that most of us were born with. Now that's what I call an advance!
Mmmm... that last sentence does sound a bit dodgey doesn't it?!

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RTB | 9 years ago
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Main concern would be safety. I don't see how you can safely have a mixed peloton of disc and rim brakes all riding to the limit of their technology so surely it must be everyone in or everyone out. Two immediate problems:

1. Stopping distances are significantly different between the two and propensity for crashes increases substantially.

2. Those with discs will be able to brake much later than those with rim brakes again increasing the probability of crashes.

Dread to think how that would be amplified and compounded on descents.

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dave atkinson replied to RTB | 9 years ago
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RTB wrote:

Main concern would be safety. I don't see how you can safely have a mixed peloton of disc and rim brakes all riding to the limit of their technology so surely it must be everyone in or everyone out. Two immediate problems:

1. Stopping distances are significantly different between the two and propensity for crashes increases substantially.

2. Those with discs will be able to brake much later than those with rim brakes again increasing the probability of crashes.

Dread to think how that would be amplified and compounded on descents.

don't remember the same hand-wringing when people started adopting carbon rims, a long time before they were any good at all for stopping in the wet. or when dual-pivot callipers were introduced. or when people were allowed to use campag delta brakes, which didn't work at all  3

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muppetteer | 9 years ago
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I wonder how far Sky will take frame development with their "marginal gains" philosophy?

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crikey | 9 years ago
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I really don't understand why this is a big deal.

If you want a disc braked road bike, you can have one. You can have it now, you could have had it at anytime in the last two years.
If you want a bike lighter than the UCI minimum, you can have one. You can have it now, you could have had it at anytime in the past...4-5-6 years.

The UCI run the racing bit of the sport, they don't govern what anyone who doesn't race gets up to, so why the big deal?

Cycling has changed an enormous amount; it used to be about what you did rather than what you bought...

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bdsl replied to crikey | 9 years ago
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crikey wrote:

I really don't understand why this is a big deal.

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The UCI run the racing bit of the sport, they don't govern what anyone who doesn't race gets up to, so why the big deal?

I suspect a significant part of the issue is people buying bikes who don't race but think they might want the option of occasionally entering a race on their bike in the next few years. This is a pressure for non-racers to buy race-legal bikes.

Does anyone have an idea when British Cycling is likely to allow discs in ametuer races? Same time as the UCI?

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goggy | 9 years ago
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Well I'm not buying a new bike anytime soon - I'm stocked up now, with mechanical discs on my 'cross bike only. I'm happy with my rim brakes, especially when I can swap them about between bikes. Just don't ask me to stop in the wet...

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2 Wheeled Idiot | 9 years ago
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HANG ON
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Does this mean the uci are moving forward and kinda letting bikes develop into the modern century instead of the glory days (as Pat mcQuaid would have called the 1850's  21 ) and actually allowing innovation....  13  13
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I for one welcome the changes and hopefully a lower weight limit, I mean bikes are pretty much as developed as they can be at this point, need to shuffle things up a bit.

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nopants | 9 years ago
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It will be interesting what this does to the sale of high end race bikes. If I was buying I'd seriously think about waiting.

I wonder how long before the rules on weight and tube shape go through? Race bikes could look utterly different in 3 years.

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userfriendly replied to nopants | 9 years ago
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nopants wrote:

It will be interesting what this does to the sale of high end race bikes. If I was buying I'd seriously think about waiting.

It may have some impact but I would guess not a huge one. Most people buy what they need when they need it.

Although a big fan of road disc brakes myself, I *just* built a new best bike with rim brakes, deliberately, for three reasons: aesthetics, weight savings, and I'm only ever going to ride it on dry roads in good weather anyway.  16

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ridein | 9 years ago
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Previously the disc brakes in the peloton was contingent upon some trial runs first, Paris-Roubaix was generally quoted as an example.

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hampstead_bandit | 9 years ago
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Finally! the disc brakes work on road bikes, really well, especially in our climate in the UK with lots of humid / wet riding days.

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Nick T replied to hampstead_bandit | 9 years ago
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hampstead_bandit wrote:

Finally! the disc brakes work on road bikes, really well, especially in our climate in the UK with lots of humid / wet riding days.

What's that got to do with racing?

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shawnriffhard replied to Nick T | 9 years ago
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Nick T wrote:
hampstead_bandit wrote:

Finally! the disc brakes work on road bikes, really well, especially in our climate in the UK with lots of humid / wet riding days.

What's that got to do with racing?

There's no racing in rain?

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shawnriffhard replied to Nick T | 9 years ago
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Nick T wrote:
hampstead_bandit wrote:

Finally! the disc brakes work on road bikes, really well, especially in our climate in the UK with lots of humid / wet riding days.

What's that got to do with racing?

There's no racing in rain?

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Ian Allardyce | 9 years ago
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Hopefully wider adoption of disc-break frames and wheels will lower the price.

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Paul J | 9 years ago
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Don't mind disc brakes coming in, but please restrict weight and aero. Last thing I want is for cycling to turn into F1, and all about the equipment and how well you wiggle around the rules.  2

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TeamExtreme | 9 years ago
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Having recently hauled my mountain bike out of the garage for its annual winter run-around, I have to say I'm all for it.

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bendertherobot | 9 years ago
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Ah, Campag must have their system ready then..............

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userfriendly replied to bendertherobot | 9 years ago
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bendertherobot wrote:

Ah, Campag must have their system ready then..............

Yes please!

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crikey | 9 years ago
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Maybe that will quiet the nay-sayers

I'm rather more hopeful it will quiet all those who see disc brakes as the salvation of cycling...

...until the 'next big thing' comes along for them to obsess about, of course.

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tehcrash | 9 years ago
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Maybe that will quiet the nay-sayers  1

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Skynet | 9 years ago
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Was chatting about this the other day, would be great if they had no frame rules, within reason, and see what they could come up with.

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Al__S replied to Skynet | 9 years ago
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Skynet wrote:

Was chatting about this the other day, would be great if they had no frame rules, within reason, and see what they could come up with.

define "reason"? "reason" is rules. Has to be. "no rules"? they'd be racing velomobiles.

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Skynet replied to Al__S | 9 years ago
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Within reason as in not a recumbent for example but aero, tube diameters, profiles, wheel size would be fine. Would just be interesting to see what they could come up with.

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Broady. | 9 years ago
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Finally.

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