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Video: Passing bus brushes Nottingham cyclist’s elbow
Helmet cam footage taken on Nottingham’s Mansfield Road on February 20 shows a bus passing a cycle commuter so closely that it actually brushed his elbow as it went by.
Video uploader, Cyberslayer, said that he made eye contact with the bus driver at the lights before they set off.
“He was only in lane two because we both knew that lane one was going to be full of parked cars. As the lanes started to merge he makes no attempt to ease off and let me carry on in front and brings his bus within inches of my handlebars.
“The bus actually brushed past my elbow and caused me to take my right hand off the handlebars. I didn't dare brake one handed as the heavy bike needs two hands to keep it straight whilst stopping. I just let the bike roll along downhill, hoping that the bus wasn't going to pull over any further and desperately concentrating on keeping the bike heading in a straight line.”
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Cyberslayer contacted Trentbarton bus company about the incident. He was told that the footage had been passed to the general manager.
“She has advised that the bus doesn't deviate from his lane, and if your lane is impeded it would perhaps be prudent to wait until lane two was clear. Equally, our driver could have read the road ahead, seen you and the parked cars and slowed to allow you into the second lane for this manoeuvre. She will be speaking to the driver, and showing him the footage so that he can be aware of the situation and hopefully will make better decisions in reading the road ahead.
“We are truly sorry for any distress caused, it did look very close, though in the driver’s defence, he did not appear to move across his lane, but as stated above, he could have read the road ahead better, and thank you for letting us know about this incident.”
After speaking to Nottinghamshire Police, Cyberslayer was told that due to the fact that he wasn't hit by the bus, didn’t sustain any injuries and there are no independent witnesses, there would be no further police involvement.
In a similar incident last week, a London bus drifted into a cycle lane, almost squeezing a cyclist off the road.
The video uploader, Ian Croft, asked: “Is this bad driving or poor cycling?”
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The 'onus' is obviously on the 'professional' driver not to be twat just for the sake of making point a homicidal point with a 4 ton killing machine. (Whatever that point might be)
Well done bus driver, you nearly kill somebody, I bet it's a daily occurrence if you drive like that all the time.
It is funny the person on the lighter vehicle doesn't ever seem to consider the possible results that being crushed by a bus would do thus actually killing himself in the process, the responsability is on both but for different reasons but rather worrying lately is the habit to keep blaming those who'll lose least from the collison no matter who is in the wrong.
"you wasn't hit by the bus"...where do the police get these illiterate misfits from?
It is disturbing that many people (including the bus company) seem unaware that the presence of a cycle lane does not negate the requirement to allow a safe distance when overtaking - 1 to 1.5m, depending on the speed.
The cyclist's positioning was not ideal. Before the parked cars, he was riding at the extreme right hand edge of his lane which reduced the passing distance of the single decker. He should either have rode more centrally in his lane or indicated earlier and moved into lane 2. Personally, I would have stayed in lane 1, let the bus pass then move to a safe position in lane 2.
I read it as poor positioning by the cyclist too. That being said, the bus driver could have chosen to slow down slightly to allow the cyclist to pass the parked cars.
The cyclist is a entitled dickhead that is endangering other road users. Are his brakes broken?
Regardless of right and wrong, the cyclist is most vunerable, so maybe should have behaved in a way that will help him survive. Bus vs Cyclist, hmmm.
It's great being right and injured/dead isn't it.
Regardless of right and wrong (and I haven't worked out to my own satisfaction whose fault this incident was, mainly 'cos I can't be bothered viewing the video to be honest) your comment is predictable, tedious, and irrelevant to the issue.
Someone _always_ makes that smug, and entirely useless, observation in the aftermath of almost any incident. What's the point of doing so, other than to try and take a one-up position and/or falsely convince yourself you are invulnerable?
You could have made your comment on almost any video showing any incident. There's _always_ some way the more vulnerable party could have 'made themselves safe' (e.g. by not cycling on the road at all, or not going outdoors). A comment that is universally applicable doesn't actually say anything useful at all.
Right and wrong is the whole point, it's what people are arguing about (maybe the cyclist was wrong, I'm not ruling that out). But just saying that 'regardless of right and wrong' the onus is always on the person who is vulnerable is completely pointless.
The bus driver could see the the cyclist was moving into lane 2 at the junction where the bus lane emerges but chose to try and squeeze/muscle past. Maybe the cyclist should have taken position in the outside lane and blocked the bus out but when faced by 15 tons of bus would you feel confident doing so.
Later in the video, once it's clear that the bus has bullied the cyclist into what remains of the cycle lane , the cyclist would have done good to back off as at that point there was only ever going to be one winner in the case of any incident.
As far as the cops telling him that there was no independent witness, what the fuck is a camera? is that not suitable witness material.
The bus shouldn't have overtaken, thus blocking the cyclist. However since it did, the cyclist should have stopped or slowed down in order to get behind the bus.
So I think the first one who made a fault, was the bus driver, and the cyclist later made anothe poor judgement resulting in a dangerous situation.
I feel that was actually the cyclist's fault too. Poor reading of the road ahead. He should either have held the lane and stayed ahead of the bus, or been ready to brake and filter in behind before coming up to the parked cars.
I honestly think this is the cyclist's fault.
He decided to continue in the bus lane despite the parked cars being clearly visible and then when the bus was passing him he decided to squeeze past the parked cars rather than slow down.
One open door in that situation and he is dead.
He can see the road is obstructed and could easily have slowed down and merged behind the bus or taken primary position in the non-bus lane before he reached the parked cars.
clearly the cyclist is at fault.The bus was passing the cyclist long before the parked cars and the rider should have slowed down.Infact trying to squeeze into that gap between the parked cars and the bus was stupidity.
When you decide to grow up then perhaps we could discuss this topic in an adult fashion.Untill that point then please carry on sucking your moms tits,
The cyclist knew his lane was blocked with cars - he could seem them ahead.
Why didn't he wait for the bus to come past and then merge behind it?
Plus, the lanes don't merge, lane 1 is blocked with cars, there's no merging zone.
THIS. Just slow a fraction and let the bus pass. There was no room to clear the door zone and leave room for a bus which is already overtaking you, to get past.
Fixed that for you
That might be polite and curteous but its not actually the way the roads work. Standard procedure is that if you want to change lanes then you look for a gap, signal your intention and change lanes.
Don't move into the next lane if it is occupied by a bus.
The bus driver may have been unhelpful, but he wasn't really doing anything "wrong". The sad thing is that as a cyclist, and vulerable road user is that drivers rarely "let you out" of a junction or similar.
Sadly, you've missed the point. The bus driver has absolutely done something wrong. He's put himself alongside the vulnerable road user when the width of the road is about to taper down to the width of the bus.
Priority goes to the vehicle ahead (the bike crossing said junction). The incident occurs BEFORE the bus/cycle lane reappears ahead. What the vulnerable road user does AFTER this dangerous maneuvre is a totally different issue.
Have you actually read what the cyclist said about what happened in this incident?
There probably wouldn't have been any incident if the bus driver had got on and completed the overtake before the road narrowed... Unless an idiot following the bus decided to bully the vulnerable road user into the blocked lane, but that wouldn't be an option if the bus driver wasn't a dick.
The cyclist arrives at the lights first, he chooses to take the left hand lane. The bus arrives after and chooses the right hand lane.
After crossing the junction the bus and cyclist stay in their respective lanes.
When it becomes clear that the cyclist's lane is blocked he chooses to attempt a highly dangerous manoeuvre in order to avoid slowing down or stopping.
The bus driver is not required to give way to the cyclist as they are in separate lanes. If the cyclist wishes to move in to the bus driver's lane the cyclist has to give way to the traffic in that lane already.
One day like this the roads will be crawling with idiots. Just have grace under pressure and hope you don't crack you ribcage or have to stop for puncture repair.
It's good to know that when I swing my dlock at a motorists head missing them by a few millimetres and there are no independent witnesses there will be no action against me, nice!
Discipline that driver.
The bus company will know who was driving it with the time and route.
Discipline him/her.
Can someone explain the point of a bus lane if there are vehicles parked on it?
In general no bus lanes operate 24/7.
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