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Drinfinity wrote:

Xena,

Could you help me out with a list of which conspiracy theories you subscribe to, and which you think are bollocks?

It's those pesky climate research scientists flying around in their private jets living the high life laughing at us all funded by the usual dark overlords:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/22/conspiracy-theory-...

Anthropogenic global warming is a hoax - check

Vaccines?

Electrosensitivity/5G is a health risk?

Chemtrails?

EU superstate something George Soros something something  (sorry, you will need to define that one better than I can)

911 false flag etc?

Moon landings?

Flat Earth?

Lizard Overlords?

It's those billionaire climate scientists again flying around in their private jets laughing at us all, while foing the evil deeds of the usual overload for such matters : https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jul/22/conspiracy-theory-...

Drinfinity wrote:

Xena,

Could you help me out with a list of which conspiracy theories you subscribe to, and which you think are bollocks?

Anthropogenic global warming is a hoax - check

Vaccines?

Electrosensitivity/5G is a health risk?

Chemtrails?

EU superstate something George Soros something something  (sorry, you will need to define that one better than I can)

911 false flag etc?

Moon landings?

Flat Earth?

Lizard Overlords?

Instead of sprouting shit ,read the links and then make an opinion ? Otherwise your the only one who’s talking conspiracy. Check the links . Get a education
By the way the us paid out over 4 billion pounds to vaccine victims . Know your facts ,you obviously don’t https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/4-billion-and-growing-u-s-payout...
Ok , Facts not MSM bullshit shoved down your throat .

Xena wrote:

Drinfinity wrote:

Xena,

Could you help me out with a list of which conspiracy theories you subscribe to, and which you think are bollocks?

Anthropogenic global warming is a hoax - check

Vaccines? Check 

Electrosensitivity/5G is a health risk?

Chemtrails?

EU superstate something George Soros something something  (sorry, you will need to define that one better than I can)

911 false flag etc?

Moon landings?

Flat Earth?

Lizard Overlords?

Check the links . Get a education

Thanks again Xena, so we have ticked the first two on the list. Where do you stand on Electrosensitivity? Is WiFi harmful?

I did ‘get a education’. DPhil in Organic Chemistry (specialising in interaction of small molecules with a particular human enzyme) and Postdoctoral Research Fellowship in a slightly obscure corner of quantum mechanics. So I do know a bit about the science here. Admittedly by years of lectures by leading academics, study, exams, long nights in the lab, rather than YouTube. But I’m probably just a bit old fashioned.

Drinfinity wrote:

Xena wrote:

Drinfinity wrote:

Xena,

Could you help me out with a list of which conspiracy theories you subscribe to, and which you think are bollocks?

Anthropogenic global warming is a hoax - check

Vaccines? Check 

Electrosensitivity/5G is a health risk?

Chemtrails?

EU superstate something George Soros something something  (sorry, you will need to define that one better than I can)

911 false flag etc?

Moon landings?

Flat Earth?

Lizard Overlords?

Check the links . Get a education

Thanks again Xena, so we have ticked the first two on the list. Where do you stand on Electrosensitivity? Is WiFi harmful?

I did ‘get a education’. DPhil in Organic Chemistry (specialising in interaction of small molecules with a particular human enzyme) and Postdoctoral Research Fellowship in a slightly obscure corner of quantum mechanics. So I do know a bit about the science here. Admittedly by years of lectures by leading academics, study, exams, long nights in the lab, rather than YouTube. But I’m probably just a bit old fashioned.

exactly ,your wrong on the issues I have stated and put links up to . If you look at my links again you will also notice qualified scientists suing other qualified scientists for fraudulent use of date etc .

Your  comment about your education is irrelevant when you have qualified people being fraudulent. its Facts that count . I’m sure your very smart but this is about facts . You for instance did not know the US paid over 4 billion dollars to vaccine victims . That’s my point the main stream media will very rarely point these things out . It’s about control. Think for yourself .

You do realise there such things as books and doing research . That’s how a lot of people get a education. The links I posted just make it easy for the uneducated to learn what is going on.

climate science for instance is very complicated . Where you retrieve your data for instance will have a great effect on temperature , city’s or from weather balloons “ height and the effects of the atmosphere. You get the point .  For instance Phil Jones altered the Data so his model would fit exactly what the IPCC wanted . Tony hall ( leading climate expert,fully qualified) was asked by the IPCC to post fraudulent date . He refuse to do this . You or anyone else can look the James Corbett IPCC exposed video and see his interview .  I’d also recommend James Corbetts how oil ruled the world . It’s a must see . No conspiracy just FACTs.

There have been some issues with 5g some states in the us have not allowed it . Plenty of medical evidence from DR’s etc ,instead of me posting links why don’t you do your due diligence and look for yourself . Question everything. 

d10brp wrote:

Mine came in just under 100 too, went and tracked another 3/4 mile to make sure I got over 100!

Really enjoyed the ride yesterday but can't understand why some of those people were out there. There were three hills, all fairly straight forward, and I saw people get off and walk right at the start of the first hill. I saw one lady fall off due to basically going backwards on a climb and say "oh look I fell off again". I don't know how many times over the ride is oversubscribed but I do wish these people who clearly did no or little training would leave it to people actually prepared to put in a bit of work.

I start my Strava / Garmin at the hotel. That usually brings the ride to about 110 miles. I’m with you on your point about people who can’t be arsed with training at all, then wobble about and fall off a lot, and think it’s some sort of joke. Fortunately, I got an early enough start, that I didn’t see any, until the merger with the 46 and 19, towards the end of the ride. There were a lot of choppers, and weavers, but that’s par for the course, with this ride, I’m afraid.

Judge dreadful wrote:

d10brp wrote:

Mine came in just under 100 too, went and tracked another 3/4 mile to make sure I got over 100!

Really enjoyed the ride yesterday but can't understand why some of those people were out there. There were three hills, all fairly straight forward, and I saw people get off and walk right at the start of the first hill. I saw one lady fall off due to basically going backwards on a climb and say "oh look I fell off again". I don't know how many times over the ride is oversubscribed but I do wish these people who clearly did no or little training would leave it to people actually prepared to put in a bit of work.

 

I start my Strava / Garmin at the hotel. That usually brings the ride to about 110 miles. I’m with you on your point about people who can’t be arsed with training at all, then wobble about and fall off a lot, and think it’s some sort of joke. Fortunately, I got an early enough start, that I didn’t see any, until the merger with the 46 and 19, towards the end of the ride. There were a lot of choppers, and weavers, but that’s par for the course, with this ride, I’m afraid.

The ride is open to anybody. It’s as simple as that. If you feel like you’re somehow superior to these so called ‘choppers’ (a lovely derogatory term) then get your BC race license, pin a number on your back and join the big boys and girls who actually race.

Jimmy Walnuts wrote:

Judge dreadful wrote:

d10brp wrote:

Mine came in just under 100 too, went and tracked another 3/4 mile to make sure I got over 100!

Really enjoyed the ride yesterday but can't understand why some of those people were out there. There were three hills, all fairly straight forward, and I saw people get off and walk right at the start of the first hill. I saw one lady fall off due to basically going backwards on a climb and say "oh look I fell off again". I don't know how many times over the ride is oversubscribed but I do wish these people who clearly did no or little training would leave it to people actually prepared to put in a bit of work.

 

I start my Strava / Garmin at the hotel. That usually brings the ride to about 110 miles. I’m with you on your point about people who can’t be arsed with training at all, then wobble about and fall off a lot, and think it’s some sort of joke. Fortunately, I got an early enough start, that I didn’t see any, until the merger with the 46 and 19, towards the end of the ride. There were a lot of choppers, and weavers, but that’s par for the course, with this ride, I’m afraid.

 

The ride is open to anybody. It’s as simple as that. If you feel like you’re somehow superior to these so called ‘choppers’ (a lovely derogatory term) then get your BC race license, pin a number on your back and join the big boys and girls who actually race.

People struggling along is fine, we all start somewhere. People getting off their bike at the first hint of something above 1% have no place on this kind of ride.

d10brp wrote:

Jimmy Walnuts wrote:

Judge dreadful wrote:

d10brp wrote:

Mine came in just under 100 too, went and tracked another 3/4 mile to make sure I got over 100!

Really enjoyed the ride yesterday but can't understand why some of those people were out there. There were three hills, all fairly straight forward, and I saw people get off and walk right at the start of the first hill. I saw one lady fall off due to basically going backwards on a climb and say "oh look I fell off again". I don't know how many times over the ride is oversubscribed but I do wish these people who clearly did no or little training would leave it to people actually prepared to put in a bit of work.

 

I start my Strava / Garmin at the hotel. That usually brings the ride to about 110 miles. I’m with you on your point about people who can’t be arsed with training at all, then wobble about and fall off a lot, and think it’s some sort of joke. Fortunately, I got an early enough start, that I didn’t see any, until the merger with the 46 and 19, towards the end of the ride. There were a lot of choppers, and weavers, but that’s par for the course, with this ride, I’m afraid.

 

The ride is open to anybody. It’s as simple as that. If you feel like you’re somehow superior to these so called ‘choppers’ (a lovely derogatory term) then get your BC race license, pin a number on your back and join the big boys and girls who actually race.

 

People struggling along is fine, we all start somewhere. People getting off their bike at the first hint of something above 1% have no place on this kind of ride.

Who says? You come a cross as a superior twat. Do you know those people? Do you have insight into their physical and mental well being? Perhaps some of them were simply trying to achieve something they thought they might never do, and, in honour of a friend, husband , wife who had mental illness/died of a stroke/heart attack/cancer. If you don't like it that just anyone has access to this event that raises millions for charities every year, don't enter in the first place.

kevvjj wrote:

d10brp wrote:

Jimmy Walnuts wrote:

Judge dreadful wrote:

d10brp wrote:

Mine came in just under 100 too, went and tracked another 3/4 mile to make sure I got over 100!

Really enjoyed the ride yesterday but can't understand why some of those people were out there. There were three hills, all fairly straight forward, and I saw people get off and walk right at the start of the first hill. I saw one lady fall off due to basically going backwards on a climb and say "oh look I fell off again". I don't know how many times over the ride is oversubscribed but I do wish these people who clearly did no or little training would leave it to people actually prepared to put in a bit of work.

 

I start my Strava / Garmin at the hotel. That usually brings the ride to about 110 miles. I’m with you on your point about people who can’t be arsed with training at all, then wobble about and fall off a lot, and think it’s some sort of joke. Fortunately, I got an early enough start, that I didn’t see any, until the merger with the 46 and 19, towards the end of the ride. There were a lot of choppers, and weavers, but that’s par for the course, with this ride, I’m afraid.

 

The ride is open to anybody. It’s as simple as that. If you feel like you’re somehow superior to these so called ‘choppers’ (a lovely derogatory term) then get your BC race license, pin a number on your back and join the big boys and girls who actually race.

 

People struggling along is fine, we all start somewhere. People getting off their bike at the first hint of something above 1% have no place on this kind of ride.

Who says? You come a cross as a superior twat. Do you know those people? Do you have insight into their physical and mental well being? Perhaps some of them were simply trying to achieve something they thought they might never do, and, in honour of a friend, husband , wife who had mental illness/died of a stroke/heart attack/cancer. If you don't like it that just anyone has access to this event that raises millions for charities every year, don't enter in the first place.

Gosh, charming. When you sign up for this they describe the kind of effort required and the expected minimum level of ability. There are challenges to suit all levels of ability, it is a very inclusive event. I was doing the ride for my daughter and other kids who have had to go through what she has and I am pleased at the amount I raised the that charity. But there is no point turning up to a bike ride with hills if you don't want to even try and ride up a hill. Sure, some poeple will turn up and have an off day and end up walking some of it, but I'm not talking about those people, I'm talking about those who have no intention whatsoever of even trying. If you decided to take your place in the ride at the expense of 50,000 other worthy people who were not allocated a place, at least try and ride it.

d10brp wrote:

If you decided to take your place in the ride at the expense of 50,000 other worthy people who were not allocated a place, at least try and ride it.

Ah, now I get it. They weren't as worthy as you. Thanks for clearing that up.

What category are you?

d10brp wrote:

Really enjoyed the ride yesterday but can't understand why some of those people were out there. There were three hills, all fairly straight forward, and I saw people get off and walk right at the start of the first hill.

And you were _still_ behind these interlopers at Newlands Corner? Sounds like you need to put more work in.

d10brp wrote:

Mine came in just under 100 too, went and tracked another 3/4 mile to make sure I got over 100!

Really enjoyed the ride yesterday but can't understand why some of those people were out there. There were three hills, all fairly straight forward, and I saw people get off and walk right at the start of the first hill. I saw one lady fall off due to basically going backwards on a climb and say "oh look I fell off again". I don't know how many times over the ride is oversubscribed but I do wish these people who clearly did no or little training would leave it to people actually prepared to put in a bit of work.

I expect that most of the people walking up the hills are entering to raise money for charity and treating the ride as a personal challenge to themselves. Just be grateful that the hills were all fairly straight forward for your level of ability and fitness.

Rick_Rude wrote:

99% of cyclists drive so the road tax thing is stupid. I pay a combined tax rate of over £400 tax for my vehicles. Page is probably one of those paying £30 from the revenue which has been run through tax avoidance schemes like most 'stars'

Sorry to pick on your quote in particular, but as one of the 1% I dislike this line of argument. It doesn't matter how much vehicle tax you pay when it comes to using the road. You're basically saying the same thing as Page.

road.cc wrote:

The latest update to the UCI's List of Approved Models of Frames and Forks features new versions of the TCR Advanced, TCR Advanced SL and TCR Advanced Pro...

Giant last announced an update to the TCR platform in 2015 (the bikes were model year 2016), so we're about due a redesign. 

Model year 2021, though? We're used to bikes breaking cover six months or so before the start of the relevant model year, but nearly a year and a half? That has to be some sort of record.

Giant says it is a long way from being able to launch anything but needed to get designs rubber stamped before taking development any further. The designs could still be changed and require re-approval before anything is launched, so don't expect to see the new Giant TCRs any time soon. 

Finally!

Expect the new TCR Advanced SL (probably Disc version?) to be used at TdF 2020 and maybe unofficially launched there?

I've had my keen eye on Giant's TCR Advanced line for over a year, it's well overdue based on their 3-year frame development cycle. (I've mentioned the 2020 model a few times in recent posts.) But I think that's all had to change due to Trump's trade war, subsequent closure of Far-East factories, although I'm sure there are lots of other influencing factors.

Looking forward to the reviews next year. I don't need another bike but a new TCR Pro could be worth waiting for and encourage me to review my bike portfolio in the meantime

Miller wrote:

Okay...

The full RL route was short too. My Garmin put it at 157.5km, others also found it under 100 miles. I was so trashed by the end that I was just glad it was over.

Nope, my three mates all clocked over 160km.

kevvjj wrote:

Miller wrote:

Okay...

The full RL route was short too. My Garmin put it at 157.5km, others also found it under 100 miles. I was so trashed by the end that I was just glad it was over.

Nope, my three mates all clocked over 160km.

Prompted by your brusque rebuttal I just looked at a random selection of RL rides on Strava, apparently I rode with 66 people, and they've all come in at 157-159km. I'm simply reporting the facts here so no need for another 'nope'.

Miller wrote:

kevvjj wrote:

Miller wrote:

Okay...

The full RL route was short too. My Garmin put it at 157.5km, others also found it under 100 miles. I was so trashed by the end that I was just glad it was over.

Nope, my three mates all clocked over 160km.

Prompted by your brusque rebuttal I just looked at a random selection of RL rides on Strava, apparently I rode with 66 people, and they've all come in at 157-159km. I'm simply reporting the facts here so no need for another 'nope'.

 

Calm down dear, it's only a bike ride.

Perhaps they rode further than you. Perhaps in the scheme of things it really doesn't matter. It's supposed to be a bike ride not a GPS accuracy benchmarking test.