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"I fight to survive" - Sagan says he swerved to avoid “square pole” in the barriers; Thomas admits “going through the motions a bit” during lockdown training; Boulting, Millar and Kennaugh go golfing; Van Aert fined for giving Sagan the finger + more

Welcome to Thursday's live blog, with Liam Cahill and Alex Bowden providing your updates throughout the day...

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10 September 2020, 15:40
Marc Hirschi's first pro victory was pretty good

If you've been following this year's Tour, you'll know this one was on the cards.

The Swiss 22-year-old had already finished second on Stage 2 and third on Stage 9.

10 September 2020, 15:18
Family pay tribute to cyclist whose “last living action was pushing the pedals” - police appeal for witnesses.
10 September 2020, 14:07
That time when Froome got Nibali by the scruff of the neck…
10 September 2020, 13:47
Jens Voigt won last time a Tour stage finished in Sarran

I interviewed Jens a few years back.

Funny guy - although not always deliberately.

Doesn't look like it's going to be a win for the break today though.

10 September 2020, 12:38
geraint thomas ineos 2020
Geraint Thomas admits “going through the motions a bit” during lockdown training

Geraint Thomas, omitted from Ineos Grenadiers’ Tour de France team, has told the Guardian that he didn’t get into shape in time after, “going through the motions a bit,” during his lockdown training.

“I need to be super ‘on it’ to get to my Grand Tour competitive shape,” he said. “That takes a lot of work. It doesn’t come naturally, especially the whole weight thing. So, I was just running a little heavy and it was more a case of getting on top of that. Six weeks of racing has really helped.”

Thomas is currently sitting fourth in Tirreno-Adriatico.

“I’m feeling better than three weeks ago for sure,” he said. “It’s the first time I’ve been at the pointy end this year. This race will do me the world of good for the Giro. I’ve got some confidence again.”

10 September 2020, 11:52
The poetically named final climb of the day
10 September 2020, 10:54
"I fight to survive" - Sagan says he swerved to avoid “square pole” in the barriers

Peter Sagan says he didn't see the selfie stick which some have been suggesting was the cause of the manoeuvre that saw him relegated in yesterday's sprint (see earlier).

He says he was actually trying to avoid a square pole that was lying in amongst the barriers.

Bit blurry, but we think he means this thing:

Swerve

Here's the footage:

10 September 2020, 10:36
The Tour de France heads through Cloud

A quick look at what awaits the riders in today's stage of the Tour de France.

It's an intriguing one and the longest of the race.

Ironically, they pass through Cloud before they've hit the first climb of the day.

10 September 2020, 10:30
It's illegal for more than six people to gather from Monday. British Cycling and Cycling UK are still trying to work out what that will mean in practice
10 September 2020, 09:16
This one has it all...

Dressed up for the big shoot, angry face, blame the cyclists etc...

The Lancashire Post writes that "Stephen lives at Walton Le Dale with wife Jacqueline and said the commute to work can now take up to half an hour for a journey of just two miles."

If only there was another way to travel those two miles. Has anyone got any ideas?

10 September 2020, 08:32
Organised sports events events excluded from social gathering size restrictions because organisers are trusted to make them covid secure

We've still got a few questions.

What we're really waiting for here is one of the cycling organisations to spell things out for us.

10 September 2020, 08:30
Was Sagan swerving to avoid a selfie stick?

You'd think he'd have mentioned it, if he was.

10 September 2020, 08:12
What a photo

The best picture of the Tour de France so far and it'll be hard to top it.

This spectacular image shows the closing meters of yesterday's sprint stage with Sagan, Van Aert, Bennett and Ewan all eeking out their last ounces of energy in the race for the line. Take a bow BettiniPhoto.

10 September 2020, 08:03
Two former pro cyclists and a commentator go golfing...

Some questionable form and lost balls are the order of the day in 'Golf Attack - The Movie'.

Maybe we need to send Ned, David and Pete a set of our custom road.cc golf balls...

10 September 2020, 07:40
200CHF for flipping the bird
Van Aert Middle Finger

As the cameras focussed on Bennett and Ewan, they picked up Wout van Aert making his feelings known to Peter Sagan.

Sagan had taken a gap up the barriers, before making himself some more room with a shoulder to the ribs of Van Aert. The move earned Sagan more than just a hand gesture from Van Aert. The race officials deemed that his sprint was dangerous and Sagan was relegated to 85th place, losing his green jersey points from the stage as well as being docked a further 13 points in the sprinter's classification.

Van Aert got told off too, getting an effective slap on the wrist in the form of a 200CHF fine. That's Swiss Francs by the way. 

If you haven't seen what Van Aert was upset about, here's the replay...

10 September 2020, 07:15
Ah that social distancing thing
Cheshire Cat Sportive (picture credit britishcycling.org_.uk)

So it seems that group rides are back down to a maximum of six people per ride.

Will people be sticking to this and have you just had to cancel some plans due to the new restrictions?

It also looks like racing at a local level is back off, just as it was getting started again. We're still not sure about sportives, but we'll be keeping an eye out for news from British Cycling 

10 September 2020, 07:14
Backstage Pass Stage 11 - Mitchelton Scott

 

10 September 2020, 07:07
Good morning, sports fans

It's Liam kicking off the blog today, freshly returned from a few days 'working' in Italy.

We'll be looking at all of the talking points surrounding Sagan's heavy use of his shoulder in yesterday's sprint finish and then Van Aert making his feelings known. Today's stage looks set to be a day for the break so who's your money on?

Away from the Grand Boucle, we'll have all of the cycling news from around the web. So, let's dive into Thursday with some Sam Bennett energy.

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half_wheel79 | 4 years ago
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Van Aert was moving off his line to the right and risked pushing Sagan into the barriers where all hell would've broken loose. So Sagan gave him a nudge, Its racing! 

Sagan should rightfully feel agrieved at that decision, it's BS. Might as well stop all sprints and make every stage a mountain stage, but no going over 40km its too dangerous and no going anywhere near another rider in case you hurt their feelings. 

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mdavidford replied to half_wheel79 | 4 years ago
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WvA did move to the right, but that was well before Sagan tried to go through a gap that wasn't there. Sagan chose a position on the barriers, and then found himself boxed in with no way to go around - that's racing - sometimes you just have to accept that you've been outmanouevred, and not just try to barge through regardless.

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EddyBerckx replied to half_wheel79 | 4 years ago
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I'll be honest I thought Van Aert moved off his line. Not necessarily to block anyone but he clearly did move over looking at the helicopter shot. Sagan over did the barging but it's understandable considering he had probably already committed to the (admittedly small) but existing gap. Suprised no one else picked it up

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kil0ran replied to EddyBerckx | 4 years ago
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There's a lot of lateral movement in most sprints just from the sheer amount of power they're putting through the cranks. I've often wondered if the natural side-to-side movement that generates is perhaps reigned in slightly less as sprinters sense a rival coming up on their shoulder. It's all part of the art I'd imagine? Certainly Bennett moved as everything closed together. Seeing as no-one crashed or was injured I'd much rather see a fine and let them sort it out on the next sprint stage.

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lesterama replied to half_wheel79 | 4 years ago
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Right decision by the commisaires. Any move Van Aert made was fractional. He is a pretty clean sprinter. Sagan went the wrong way and decided to make the room himself.

As a sprinter myself, I have never seen the point in risking broken bones and bikes by changing my line, but then I have never sprinted at anything above national level.

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HarrogateSpa replied to lesterama | 4 years ago
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That's right. Sagan's excuses are pretty pathetic - he should have just fessed up to barging and headbutting, and accepted the penalty.

His argument was that in the Cav incident he was in front, and this time he was behind. However the common denominator both times is that the physical aggression came from Sagan.

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darnac | 4 years ago
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Interestingly on the French TV discussion both Laurent Jalabert and Thomas Voeckler thought it was 50/50 in the sprint, tho' Yohann Offredo didn't agree...

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kil0ran | 4 years ago
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Pretty harsh penalty I think. I'm rooting for Bennett to win the green jersey but would have preferred it to happen on the road and not in the stewards office. Sprints usually have a bit of contact, it's like the dark arts of the rugby scrum. Are we saying zero contact is permitted? How far from the line are they able to change their sprint lane? How many moves are they allowed?

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HarrogateSpa replied to kil0ran | 4 years ago
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No, we're saying you can't deliberately barge and headbutt someone out of the way - it's pretty obvious looked at objectively.

Luckily van Aert wasn't injured. The Groenewegen/Jokobsen incident is quickly forgotten I see.

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Moist von Lipwig | 4 years ago
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More furious motorists not able to make to shortest more direct (most likely) unnecessary journey possible.

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/school-run-return-s...

usual mutliple think of the elderly and disabled comments, one person does point out that take away the cars that don't really need to be there and its easier for those groups to drive.

 

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brooksby replied to Moist von Lipwig | 4 years ago
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Or this one:

Neighbours furious at huge detour to park outside homes after entire street transformed into ‘Covid-secure’ cycle path

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12617669/road-closed-poole-residents-activ...

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RESIDENTS have been left fuming as they have to take a big detour to park outside their homes after their street was transformed into a "Covid-secure" cycle path.

Large planters were installed on Churchfield Road in Poole, Dorset, to block off the street, allowing pedestrians and cyclists to use it safely - and adhering to social distancing.

Bournemouth, Christchurch and Poole Council has closed the road to cars as part of the active travel scheme to encourage people to walk and cycle more during the coronavirus pandemic.

But frustrated neighbours say they feel the move has been implemented to "punish" motorists and are complaining about having to take a "huge detour" to park in front of their homes.

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to brooksby | 4 years ago
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Huge detour = 1 mile = 3 minutes travel at 20mph.

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alexuk | 4 years ago
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The fine for the bird - I understand; but the points docking for Sagan is harsh!. A little argy-bargy is to be expected in a busy sprint, Sagan wasn't pushing anyone towards a barrier, and they've now just ended the Green Jersey battle. Sagan's only hope is if Sam doesn't survive the alps!

It was a great finish, everyone stayed up-right, fastest guy won!

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Steve K replied to alexuk | 4 years ago
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I think docking is the wrong phrase. He was disqualified from the stage, so lost all the points he gained, including those at the intermediate sprint. That's my understanding, anyway.

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mdavidford replied to Steve K | 4 years ago
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No - it was coincidence that the points he was penalised happened to be the same as the number he won at the intermediate.

You're right, though, that what has really holed his challenge is not the points he was docked, but the ones he would have won for coming second (or even 4th if he'd finished there due to not being able to pass WvA.

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Steve K replied to mdavidford | 4 years ago
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mdavidford wrote:

No - it was coincidence that the points he was penalised happened to be the same as the number he won at the intermediate.

You're right, though, that what has really holed his challenge is not the points he was docked, but the ones he would have won for coming second (or even 4th if he'd finished there due to not being able to pass WvA.

Apologies, you are right. In my defence, I was repeating what they said on ITV4 last night!

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mdavidford replied to alexuk | 4 years ago
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The points deduction wasn't an arbitrary thing, though - it's required by the rules - if you're relegated for illegal contact in a sprint you get docked a quarter of the winner's points.

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Secret_squirrel replied to alexuk | 4 years ago
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A few weeks after another sprinter was in intensive care because of " a little argy bargy

Better to show zero tolerance than risk another incident like that.

Sagan should have known better.  He ended his own Green Jersey battle - there was no need for that barge - it was purely to gain advantage.

 

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Awavey replied to alexuk | 4 years ago
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He used his head to shove van Aert over to give him space !! its illegal contact in the sprint and is against the rules, we should be actually be applauding van Aerts skill at staying upright, because that could easily have caused him to lose control & crash, and at that speed a crash would have been a big one, plus it almost certainly impeded van Aerts sprint. Sagan can have no complaints about that relegation imo.

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