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"Cyclists with cameras are grassing snitches... motorists with dash-cams are responsible citizens": BBC radio discussion looks at third-party reporting; "Long-overdue": Cyclists rejoice at plan for traffic-free Cheddar Gorge + more on the live blog

Welcome to the Friday live blog with Dan Alexander, your one-stop shop for all the news, reaction and more in the cycling world as we head towards the weekend

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02 February 2024, 09:12
"Cyclists with cameras are grassing snitches... motorists with dash-cams are responsible citizens": BBC radio discussion looks at third-party reporting (and why do some cyclists get such a hard time for it?)

We got wind of BBC Radio 5 Live's Nicky Campbell hosting a segment during his Thursday show about reporting third-party helmet camera and dash-cam footage to the police so, naturally, thought we'd check it out and report back...

Techalogic DC-1 Dual Lens Helmet Camera

To our delight (and relief) there were some quite interesting and sensible points raised as listeners called and texted in, while Campbell spoke to Bryn Brooker, head of road safety at Nextbase (the dash-cam brand behind the Nextbase reporting portal).

Introduced with an 'Accidental Partridge'-worthy Campbell scrambling to get through to his guest... "Hi Bryn, are you there for me, Bryn? For everyone? Ready to go? Bryn? Bring on Bryn! Are you there Bryn? HELLO! YAY!"... the presenter went on to read out a text from a listener, Ally in Newcastle: "Cyclists with cameras are grassing snitches... motorists with dash-cams are responsible citizens doing their civic duty. Symptomatic of all our transport policies really"

That's enough material for this entire blog post, to be honest. An interesting point. As per Nextbase's own figures, more than 33,500 videos were submitted to police via the National Dash Cam Safety Portal in 2023 up until the end of November, a 30 per cent increase on the same period in 2022, most apparently coming from dash-cams.

Lady Bathurst close passed by overtaking motorist during charity ride (National Foundation for Retired Service Animals)

And yet, any length of time looking at the topic in the sewers of social media will find accusations of 'grassing' and 'snitching' labelled at cyclists who do so. Less so about the other road users who do the similar. In fact, camera cyclists' bad rap even reached the Britain's Got Talent stage in 2022 as comedian, and eventual winner, Axel Blake made it past the auditions with his cyclist bit, prompting judge Amanda Holden to weigh in on cyclists with cameras that are "asking for trouble". So, for starters, why? What is it about cyclists filming and reporting road offences which causes outrage when the majority of reports to the police come from cameras within vehicles?

Amanda Holden says camera cyclists are 'asking for trouble' on BGT (via Britain's Got Talent, YouTube)

Speaking on the wider third-party reporting point, Nextbase's head of safety said: "In five years over 100,000 offences have been reported and personally I've seen this making a real difference, enabling the police to take action on dangerous drivers. For me this people doing their civic duty. If you see a dangerous driver driving recklessly, almost causing a collision, then I think most people want to do something about that."

"The police are being inundated," came Campbell's reply...

"The police are actually finding this is saving time, the great thing about the portal is it was set up with the police and traditionally if you take a piece of footage to the police they would have to fill out a witness statement, take time to fill it out. With the system that's been set up that statement is taken automatically, so all they're asked to do is look at the footage. Is action required? Yes or no. If it is the witness statement is already there, ready to go.

> Here's what to do if you capture a near miss, close pass or collision on camera while cycling

"Actually, we calculated that over the last five years it saved an estimated 91 years of police time..."

Campbell reacted: "Oh, that's an extraordinary stat... an interesting interpretation of what some people are saying is just a mountain of extra stuff for police... but, it makes sense..."

Driver close passing cyclist, Coventry (Twitter: @jaj991)

"If you think about it," Nextbase's Brooker replied. "People have got phones and dash-cams. Evidence exists. Before this portal existed the police did have to go to people's houses to collect the data or people had to fill in a witness statement manually. That time is saved and it allows them to go and do other things."

The full episode is here, the discussion about cameras and third-party reporting coming just after the hour mark...

02 February 2024, 16:55
Pro cyclists who posted racist gesture during race in China asked to teach the "values of cycling" to junior riders
02 February 2024, 16:47
One of the UK's oldest bike shops closes after 134 years in business
Langsett Cycles (Terry Robinson/CC BY-SA 2.0 DEED/Geograph)

Langsett Cycles, the Sheffield bike shop that has been in business since 1890, has closed. In a post shared on Facebook this week, the 134-year-old bike shop's closure was announced.

The owners also run a cycle hire business in Mallorca called Mallorca Bike Hire and have recently expanded the business to add a sports bar to their offering (bike hire and sport in a pub... that's all I need, to be fair), with the time now coming to "dedicate more of our time in the sunshine with our family".

"It's no secret that times are currently challenging in the cycle trade, but they won't be like this forever, spring is just around the corner," the post said.

"I believe that cycling will continue to increase considerably in the future and cycle shops do have a future, the business is solvent so if anyone is interested in taking on this historic business moving forward please get in touch via email asap... it's a gift!"

02 February 2024, 15:56
British Cycling hopes to deliver Tour of Britain and women's edition in 2024

Apologies, folks, nipped away to do something on this... 

2023 Tour of Britain stage three, Olav Kooij wins again (SWpix.com/Simon Wilkinson)

> British Cycling hopes to deliver Tour of Britain and women's edition in 2024

02 February 2024, 12:42
Turbans can reduce the risk of head injuries in cyclists but not “as effective as helmets”, study finds
02 February 2024, 12:13
"I presume that is the same as: 'A motorist at 20mph is carefully driving with care and consideration, whereas a cyclist at 20 mph is dangerously speeding and out of control'." — your thoughts on BBC camera discussion

 brooksby: "'Cyclists with cameras are grassing snitches... motorists with dash-cams are responsible citizens...'

"I presume that is the same as: a motorist at 20mph is carefully driving with care and consideration, whereas a cyclist at 20 mph is dangerously speeding and out of control."

Geoff Ingram: "Unless there is a MGIF driver behind the cyclist, at which point he is crawling along, holding everybody up."

Ah, Schrödinger, our old friend. Good to see you again...

ChasP: "I think a lot of the criticism of cyclist's reports are of phone use in slow or stationary traffic which many motorists wrongly see as ok."

Smoggysteve: "This whole culture of calling people snitches is ludicrous. Are we talking about Merseyside gang wars here or something? People will piss and moan about insurance costs rising but when efforts are put in place to try and reduce incidents on the roads ie using phones while driving or aggressive behaviour the same people will talk about grasses recording law breakers. Seriously! What do they want?"

02 February 2024, 11:59
Sometimes social media's a laugh: Comedian's startlingly accurate 15-minute city opponent vox-pops

Must have been inspired by that comic who does the parody MP skits... you know, the one where he rattles off a known conspiracy theory about 15-minute cities while speaking in Parliament... ah, wait a second...

> Tory MP attacks 15-minute city concept with known conspiracy theory

02 February 2024, 11:54
"The only motive was idiocy": Two men who pushed cyclists into ditches for “fun” handed a two-year suspended prison sentence
02 February 2024, 11:44
Rás Tailteann And Rás na mBan receive increased funding
Rás Tailteann 2022 (credit - Ryan Mallon) 7

In the week when the Tour of Britain  and Women's Tour disappeared off the UCI calendar the only positive news we've got for you comes from across the Irish Sea. Cycling Ireland has announced the Rás Tailteann and Rás na mBan races will enjoy increased funding for 2024. Wouldn't that be nice?

> How to save a bike race: Rás Tailteann organiser on keeping Ireland's biggest race alive, 'difficult second album syndrome', and why some races just mean more

The funding will be provided by the Department of Sport and with support from Sport Ireland and both races will receive an equal share of funding for the first time. Cycling Ireland thanked the relevant ministers and Department of Sport and Ireland for the support that, it says, "ensures the events take place in 2024".

Cycling Ireland Chief Executive Officer, James Quilligan, said: "Cycling Ireland is delighted to announce an increase in funding for the 2024 Rás Tailteann and Rás na mBan from the Department of Sport and Sport Ireland. Both races are led by an incredible group of volunteers, and we look forward to working with both as event partners in 2024.

> "It's like the world championship for Irish riders": Iconic Rás Tailteann stage race makes triumphant return

"The races are among the most important on the Irish calendar and showcase the very best of Irish cycling and have attracted many top international cyclists throughout their storied histories. We'd like to thank Minister Martin, Minister Byrne, the Department of Sport and Sport Ireland's support of the races."

Rás Tailteann Race Director, Ger Campbell, added: "All of us at Cairde Rás Tailteann are thrilled with the announcement of the increase in funding. With the costs involved in promoting the event it's a huge boost for the race. It will allow us to plan our budget earlier this year and put in place important structures to make the event even better. The Rás is hugely important to Ireland's sports calendar, and we look forward to the continued success for the event going forward. It's a huge boost for the event."

02 February 2024, 11:29
UCI Cycling World Championships generated nearly £2 million for Dumfries and Galloway economy
UCI World Championships in Dumfries and Galloway (Ed Sykes/SWpix.com)

[Ed Sykes/SWpix.com]

How much bang for their buck did Dumfries and Galloway Council get out of bringing the paracycling events to the region during the UCI Cycling World Championships? Plenty, according to an independent analysis of the economic impact of the six-figure investment, reported by the Daily Record.

The events, held between August 9 and 12 created a direct economic impact of £1,888,277, a figure defined as "the total amount of additional expenditure within a defined geographical area, which can be directly attributed to staging an event".

"The council's investment of £130,000 was instrumental in achieving a direct economic impact of over £1.8m for businesses in Dumfries and
Galloway," the report stated.

In the breakdown of estimated spending, it is suggested the accomodation sector would have benefited from 4,532 booked bed nights, totalling around one million pounds in extra spending, while it is estimated more than £540,000 was spent by athletes, teams, spectators and staff on food, drink and other items.

02 February 2024, 10:13
"Long-overdue": Cyclists rejoice at plan for traffic-free Cheddar Gorge
Bikmo partners with Quotezone/cyclists Cheddar Gorge(via Bikmo)

> Cyclists and pedestrians could enjoy traffic-free Cheddar Gorge once a month under new plan

This has gone down well with you lot...

alchemilla: "This is long- overdue. Good luck to them, I hope it works out and eventually gets extended. Cheddar Gorge is a site of special scientific interest with rare Cheddar Pinks growing there, and of course the goats and sheep. It's incredible that this magnificent location has been allowed to be ruined for visitors by the noise and fumes of vehicles for too long."

Rendel Harris: "Amen. Average speed cameras at top and bottom would be a good addition, I went there once early on a spring morning and it was paradise, once on a summer afternoon and it was crammed with idiots with supercars and hot hatches treating it like a rally track. Superbikes (the motorised kind) were pretty bad too."

don simon fbpe: "I'd like to see something like this in Eryri, particularly roads around Yr Wyddfa. Sounds like a great idea."

Robert Hardy: "Restricted to once a month I hope it doesn't become dominated by sport cyclists, families ambling along on their bikes, child seats and trailers amongst pedestrians at little more than walking pace presents a pleasant picture."

Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too.

Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he's not working you'll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he'll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he's a bit strange like that.

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'It’s unfathomable’: speed hump saboteurs join Italy’s pro-car vandals

First cameras were torn down by someone calling themselves Fleximan – now traffic calming measures are being targeted

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/02/italy-pro-car-vandals-spee...

 

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