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Erm, I wouldn't let an Irish person hear you call it Gaelic. The OP didn't take kindly to the person asking stating "this wasn't in Scotland". 

Giff has it right with the naming. 

At the risk of upsetting anyone, Irish Gaelic is a term for the Irish language in English and indeed Gaelic is derived from Gaelige; insisting on calling it Gaeilge when speaking in English is the same as insisting on saying Francais instead of French or Espanol instead of Spanish. I've never met an Irish person who objected to it being called Gaelic.

Most Irish people I know call the language 'Irish'

As Steve said, he just called it Irish (with a little snide dig at the English for calling it Gaelic.) I suppose it might be based on the location of the Irish people who didn't object and the feelings on English people.

Still even with this discussion, I'm sure none of us would ever be as crude as to just post "I didn't understand them" as even in other languages, arguments are quite universal and the scattering of English and similar sounding words it was definitely understandable. Sounds like something only someone posting xeno comments on Scots might post if they did. 

AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

Still even with this discussion, I'm sure none of us would ever be as crude as to just post "I didn't understand them" as even in other languages, arguments are quite universal and the scattering of English and similar sounding words it was definitely understandable. Sounds like something only someone posting xeno comments on Scots might post if they did. 

Oh indeed, that was just an arsehole being an arsehole. That's how arseholes roll.

The Irish you've met are probably being polite! Scottish and Irish Gaelic are pretty much different languages. So you need to differentiate. So best bet is to fall back on Irish. Meanwhile the Scottish chuck a spanner in the works as you've got Scots as well as Gàidhlig and that's before those in the NE throw Doric into the mix. Pretty much a massive shibboleth! 
 

Scots call it Gaelic/Gàidhlig, both pronounced 'Gallic' (approximately)

AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

Someone on Twitter asked the OP if it was Gaelic.......

oh dear. That will not have gone down well.

You can refer to the Irish language as Gaelic when not in Ireland but prefix it with Irish. Gaelic (Gàidhlig) is the Scottish language. Meanwhile in Ireland it is either Irish or Gaelige

You were right the first time.

Did you lot just hear something.......?

Kind of annoying grating noise in the background somewhere, it's often there.

No? excellent

Clem Fandango wrote:

Did you lot just hear something.......?

Kind of annoying grating noise in the background somewhere, it's often there.

No? excellent

It's probably a mosquito. Highly irritating but (in Britain at least) of no real consequence

Awavey wrote:

Just checking, we are aware that by keep highlighting the Mamnick advert,its actually getting more coverage than it ever would have done had it complied with ASA ?

Yeah but do you think anyone visiting this site has actually bought any of their stuff?

I won't think less of anyone that has, but at least I am now sure I will remember their name and avoid their kit like the plague.

Chances are youd have avoided their kit anyway,simply by them just being another mostly anonymous small online kit brand producing identikit designs in bland colourways, so the ad doesnt really negatively impact your purchasing choices in the way you think,you werent a purchaser to begin with.

But by being provocative and generating news articles on them in the cycling press, now you've heard of them, as have people in a far wider reach than some expensive black & white arty hark back to the 60s, ASA compliant ad full page spread in Rouleur would have and for a fraction of the cost because people are literally printing their ad now for free.

And there will be people who wouldnt have heard of this brand otherwise, who the ad & how the brand styles itself appeals to, who will buy their stuff, it wont have mass appeal, but not all ads are designed to be mass appeal and directly influence you personally to buy their stuff, given their size they might be quite happy being a bit niche.

All that continually revisiting the ad does is keep the free publicity for it going.

Maybe, but as a bored office worker that likes cycling, small online cycling brands are the kind of thing I do come across. The risk would be if the price was right I might buy something without realising I was supporting a racist pr!ck.

I guess I have just never subscribed to the idea that there is no such thing as bad publicity.

Either way, I would agree with your sentiment that it is time to move on and not feature their advertising again.

Do you think they realise that we're supposed to be laughing at David Brent in that clip?

EddyBerckx wrote:

Mamnick : they make crap clothes, have a crap photographer, a terrible advertising director but at least their social media guy is on fire...

Is that because he stood too close to the model when the latter was finding out how his photoshoot accessories worked?

IanMK wrote:

Shout Out (do the cool kids still say that) 

Why are you asking us???

IanMK wrote:

Shout Out (do the cool kids still say that) for Midwest Emo/ Math Rock outfit Bottom Bracket. No I don't know what happening to the Bike on the cover of the latest album.

Are they a contemporary popular beat combo? do they feature in the Hit Parade?

Captain Badger wrote:

Are they a contemporary popular beat combo? do they feature in the Hit Parade?

I refer the honourable gentleman to the response I gave a few moments ago!

SimoninSpalding wrote:

Captain Badger wrote:

Are they a contemporary popular beat combo? do they feature in the Hit Parade?

I refer the honourable gentleman to the response I gave a few moments ago!

Fascinating times in which we live

Indeed! Also, what is Math Rock? Is it formed from Pure and Applied or Pure and Statistics Maths? I hope P&A as I was never very good at statistics.

Whichever is harder, presumably.

Alternatively, erm, here's some math rock.

mdavidford wrote:

Whichever is harder, presumably.

Alternatively, erm, here's some math rock.

A friend of mine was living in an apartment block in NY, and Dwayne Johnson moved in whilst filming a flick.

Sounds great, but apparently living down the corridor from "The Rock" is a nightmare. My friend said it was worst at tea time. You could always smell what he was cooking.....

mdavidford wrote:

Whichever is harder, presumably.

Alternatively, erm, here's some math rock.

I think that's Rock Math

IanMK wrote:

mdavidford wrote:

Whichever is harder, presumably.

Alternatively, erm, here's some math rock.

I think that's Rock Math

Ah, sorry - I didn't realise it was non-commutative.

kinderje wrote:

Indeed! Also, what is Math Rock? Is it formed from Pure and Applied or Pure and Statistics Maths? I hope P&A as I was never very good at statistics.

I'm the same. Stats isn't exactly what you'd call maths, is it?

Totally agree, Stats always seemed to be part formula/part guesswork - I think it was too much for my OCD to cope with. I was much happier, sadly, with things like double and triple integration/differentiation.