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Fans unimpressed as Jasper Philipsen accused of "bullying" rival in bizarre Tour de France incident; "When athletes keep it real": Pogačar's brutally honest f-bomb TV interview; Stage 18 updates; Pro nutrition tips from the peloton + more on the live blog

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20 July 2023, 19:43
REACTION: Jasper Philipsen avoids punishment for Pascal Eenkhoorn incident

Sorry for the tardiness of this update, as far as excuses go I'm saying going for a bike ride before it gets dark is solid enough.

Today's big talking point — THAT Jasper Philipsen "bullying" and blocking of Pascal Eenkhoorn — has some more reaction to round up. Firstly, let's start with the commissaires' take on it. Not worthy of punishment, in their book. In fact, only Eenkhoorn's breakaway companion, and third-placed rider on the stage, Jonas Abrahamsen got a fine... 200 Swiss francs for... 'urinating in public'...

At the finish, Philipsen told Wielerflits he doesn't believe he did anything wrong...

"I didn't use an elbow or anything. I just accelerated and got in front of him, so I don't think I really did a wrong manoeuvre or did anything inappropriate. I think I just wanted to make it clear that we wanted to sprint and that we were fine with those three at the front.

"Naturally. This is the course. This is the Tour, the highest level. We all try to maximize our chances. They by going into the breakaway, while we like to sprint. I think that is top sport from the top shelf."

Here's what he had to say to ITV...

Pascal Eenkhoorn told reporters he said to Philipsen... "If I want to race I can race, and if you want to pull you can pull." 

Race he did...

20 July 2023, 14:43
Fans unimpressed as Jasper Philipsen accused of "bullying" rival in bizarre Tour de France incident

Unsavoury scenes at the Tour de France this afternoon, Jasper Philipsen managing to turn a largely uneventful sprint stage (and two-and-a-half weeks of positive PR) on its head with this tête-à-tête with Pascal Eenkhoorn...

Philipsen wants the opportunity to sprint for a fifth stage win, but perhaps the most ironic thing is the fact the only reason riders felt they had a chance to attack the peloton and bridge across to the breakaway was because of Alpecin-Deceuninck and a few others' insistence that the escapees should not be allowed more than a minute's advantage all day. Less distance to bridge = a tempting opportunity for riders to attack.

Anyway, Philipsen's actions haven't gone down well. The sarcastic acceleration in front of Eenkhoorn followed by blocking of his progress has been labeled as "bullying" by some, with questions now asked about if the quadruple stage winner should suffer some sort of punishment...

One fan called the move a "nasty piece of work" and called for "a significant points deduction and relegation for that shameful repeated dangerous bullying". Another wanted full relegation from the stage.

Regardless of what happens, the Netflix camera crews will be licking their lips... 

20 July 2023, 15:50
Much criticised Jasper Philipsen wins sprint from peloton... but breakaway stays away, Kasper Asgreen winning stage 18

After the day's antics on the earlier climb I wonder how Jasper Philipsen felt crossing the line the first of the sprinters... only to see the breakaway take the first three places on the stage in front...

Kasper Asgreen powered to the victory, Pascal Eenkhoorn — the rider fans have accused Philipsen of "bullying" when the Lotto DSTNY rider tried to bridge to the breakaway — in second, and Uno-X's Jonas Abrahamsen in third. Cruelly, after a day of slogging away, laying down the watts for his teammate Eenkhoorn, helping the breakaway stay away, Victor Campenaerts was swallowed by the bunch and ended up in 16th.

Let's see how much fallout to Philipsen's actions we see this evening...

20 July 2023, 16:27
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20 July 2023, 14:12
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20 July 2023, 14:09
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Adam Blythe ice cream (GCN+)

It's a tough life...

20 July 2023, 13:39
Tadej Pogačar fan club or live blog comments section? Your thoughts on Gen Z's face of cycling

Controversial calling Tadej the face of Gen Z cycling over Remco? Jonas just scrapes into millennial age ranges, so no issues there. 

2023 Tour de France Tadej Pogacar (ASO/Pauline Ballet)

[ASO/Pauline Ballet]

Anyway, we suggested the fresh-faced white jersey had managed to win more fans in defeat on yesterday's stage, something backed up by your comments.

wtjs: "The pair of them [Jonas and Tadej] mostly avoid meaningless comments at the post-race interviews that they have to put up with, as far as that's possible when you're knackered after an ordeal such as a TdF stage. Pogačar, in particular, is honest like (to name but two) Geraint Thomas and Tom Pidcock and says what he thinks (probably against advice from the team) so that is bound to expose him to criticism when he suffers a reverse.

"He's all the more admirable for that. He had a bad day, but he's still there, battling on, and remains a phenomenal athlete. Armstrong was also a great athlete, but an unpleasant person. I doubt if it will become necessary to say that about either Pogacar or Vingegaard, or most of the riders in this great race.

"These are a couple of the greatest champions of all. Pogacar, as said below, has earned even greater respect from me — not that he needs it. For some reason unknown to me, I was vaguely supporting Vingegaard (they're both foreign riders on foreign teams after all!) but I was never not supporting Pogacar. He's a genuine, endearing character."

> "Gen Z and their phones": Tadej Pogačar still replying to Twitter memes... 15 minutes before Tour of Flanders starts

Miller: "I didn't think I could love Pogi any more than I already do. Turns out I can."

Not everyone's all aboard the fan club, however, HarrogateSpa asking what people like about the two-time Tour champion, saying he finds him "immature and irritating"...

bobbinogs: "For me it is a fairly long list. Without wishing to appear a fanboy, he basically appears to genuingly enjoy riding a bike and racing, being competitive whilst avoiding getting dragged into crap involving/blaming others. He will try things out, he will smash up a climb to give the others a prod, he avoids speaking in meaningless soundbites, he doesn't get dragged into 'let's make the whole season about one three-week race', etc. Basically, he is a great asset to the sport, and yet fallible with it which makes him all the more human. Probably enough to go on for now."

> Tadej Pogačar uploads Tour of Flanders win to Strava... gets flagged

Miller: "I particularly appreciate him being present to race through a large part of the season. That probably hurts his TdF ambitions but it's so much more enjoyable for a fan of the sport than these robotic riders who turn up for the Tour, somehow in invincible form, and are invisible the rest of the season. We've had so many of those already."

Simon E: "And in the end he's human, he's just a bloke racing his bicycle. I don't see him as immature, more that he brings smiles and spontaneity to the sport as well as a genuine competitiveness. But I wouldn't want them all try to be the same.

"I also hope that this also means we stop seeing all the tedious speculation of him being 'the next Merckx'. Because it's bollocks. I also think lots of people may have had an inaccurate or slightly skewed perception of Marc Soler, which perhaps might have been adjusted a little after yesterday."

20 July 2023, 11:22
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20 July 2023, 11:05
Uber Eats cyclist fined and received eight points on driving licence after breaking pedestrian's foot in red light jump collision

An Uber Eats delivery rider on an e-bike jumped a red light, colliding with a pedestrian and leaving her with a broken foot, Westminster Magistrates' Court heard.

Fatima Haridhoine, 37, was charged with riding a bicycle without due care and attention, the Evening Standard reports, in relation to the incident on September 10 last year. Following a trial in May she was found guilty and on Tuesday was sentenced, receiving eight penalty points on her driving licence, a £150 fine, and ordered to pay £450 compensation to the injured victim.

Prosecutor David Burns said the incident happened just before midnight when the pedestrian crossing light turned green on Queens Road in Peckham. "This lady was riding an e-bike at the time, working for Uber deliveries," he said.

"She has crashed into the complainant. In her statement, the victim says she broke her foot, she was unable to travel, she couldn't work or move for a month. She had to cancel trips abroad."

Haridhoine had told the court, "It was dark, I didn't see her. It was just before midnight."

Judge John Zani opted against disqualifying the delivery cyclist from driving and told Haridhoine: "It doesn't matter [that it was a bicycle that she had to pedal] – there's a form of motor attached, and once started the bike helps you to move."

20 July 2023, 09:22
Pro nutrition tips from the peloton — just how much should you be eating on the bike?

If like me you've suffered the dreaded 'hunger knock/bonk/whatever you want to call it' more times than you'd care to admit, this nutrition info from Uno-X dietitian James Moran, currently helping the team at the Tour de France, might be of interest.

Tobias Halland Johannessen (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

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You might not be too surprised to hear the answer is pretty simple — carbs, carbs, carbs, oh, and more carbs. On Tuesday's TT day the riders consumed 10-11g of carbs per kilo of bodyweight, so 700g for a 70kg rider to fuel for the queen stage the day after.

Then, on the bike they ate 100-130g per hour during yesterday's stage. Oh, and then once on the team bus they smashed down 4.5-5g per kilo of bodyweight for recovery. In short, eat more carbs.

James' riders burned between 5,000 and 7,2000 calories during yesterday's stage and their total carbohydrate consumption was between 19-22g per kilo of bodyweight... yep, for a 70kg rider that's as much as 1,540g of carbs, the equivalent of 50 bananas or 455 fruit pastilles...

20 July 2023, 08:44
Tour de France stage 18: Finally a chance for the sprinters? Or will tired legs see a breakaway sneak away?
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Over to Simon for our look at today's stage...

This is one of those intriguing stages that is often thrown into the last week of the Tour, and is consequently a difficult one to call. With rolling terrain and no categorised climbs, it should be one for the sprinters, but the exertions of the past few days in the mountains, plus the reduction of teams to eight riders a few years ago, means sprint trains don't now dominate as they once did.

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Add to that the fact that with the race fast approaching its end, chances to make an impression are running out, which means many riders – including some still looking for a new contract for next year – will try and get in the break and take it all the way to the line. It could very well be one of those days when the bunch tries to reel in the escapees at the death, with a close finish in prospect.

20 July 2023, 08:24
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20 July 2023, 08:17
Wout van Aert leaves Tour de France to be with pregnant wife

'Job done, Wout, we'll see you next year, yeah?'

No stage win or green jersey this year, just the SEVEN top tens (one 11th), 385km of breakaways, and endless work for his team leader... see you in Glasgow, Wout... 

20 July 2023, 07:52
"When athletes keep it real": Pogačar's brutally honest f-bomb TV interview wins Tadej more fans

One final piece of reaction from yesterday's stage to kick off Thursday's live blog — this post-stage lyricism from Tadej Pogačar that has since gone viral and spread well beyond the cycling world...

The comment, along with his team radio, "I'm gone, I'm dead", have become prime meme material in the 16 hours since.

ITV opted to selectively edit the interview to skip over a certain section...

Once he got past the brutally honest assessment part of his interview, Pogačar called the stage "one of the worst days of my life on the bike".

"If I didn't have such great support around me," he said. "I was already thinking I'd lose the podium today but I was really fighting with Marc [Soler] until the finish line. I think even on the stage to Col du Granon I was much much better than today. So I must say today was one of the worst days of my life on the bike but I had to keep fighting."

For you or I, yesterday's crack, followed by painful limping to the finish line in an irreversible state of being cooked is probably the most relatable thing Tadej has ever done on a bike. Join the club, pal...

Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too.

Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he's not working you'll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he'll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he's a bit strange like that.

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OnYerBike replied to alan sherman | 1 year ago
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I'm also rather confused.

The ES reports that she was charged with "with riding a bicycle without due care and attention" so presumably S29 of the RTA 1988. If it had been determined that the vehicle she was riding was not a legal e-bike (under the EAPC regulations), and was therefore an illegal motor vehicle, she would have presumably been charged with S3 (driving a motor vehicle without due care and attention - or possibly even S2C if the injury caused was deemed serious enough) alongside various other offences (registration, insurance, tax etc.). The fact that none of those other charges were brought suggests that her e-bike was legal, or at least presumed to be so.

If so, I am not aware that the Court can give points - the Road Traffic Offenders Act sets out what offences can/can't receive points, and S29 offences cannot (https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1988/53/schedule/2). 

The Judge could have disqualified her from driving - courts have the power to disqualify anyone from driving for a wide range of offences under the Sentencing Act 2020. But that Act only allows disqualification; it does not make provisions to apply points to a licence. I would also note that having one's driving licence disqualified is no hinderance to riding a (legal) e-bike, and so would not have affected her employment. 

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mike the bike replied to alan sherman | 1 year ago
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alan sherman wrote:

Is it really possible to get driving licence points for an offence not involving a vehicle that requires a driving licence?

I wouldn't be surprised.  You can certainly get points on a licence you don't have, so anything is possible.

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Awavey | 1 year ago
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Plenty of pun opportunities, but No Time to wait for a red light...former Bond star Daniel Craig jumps a red light on his bicycle.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/james-bond-star-daniel-craig...

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Brauchsel replied to Awavey | 1 year ago
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"No Mr Bond, I expect you to stop at the fucking red light."

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brooksby | 1 year ago
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Peter Walker in the Grauniad has an article on the Tory candidate for London mayor:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/bike-blog/2023/jul/20/londons-to...

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While [Susan] Hall intermittently insists she is not anti-cyclist as such, she has lambasted those on two wheels as lawless and dangerous, raised the idea of mandatory registration for cyclists, and claimed bike lanes and other active travel measures cause congestion.

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ktache replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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They don't even seem to be trying...

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brooksby replied to ktache | 1 year ago
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I don't know...  I find them VERY trying  4

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Steve K | 1 year ago
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Picture of the day for me (not least given Soler's reputation) was Marc Soler putting his arm round Pogacar as they crossed the finishing line.

I'm very glad to see WVA going home to be with his wife and at the birth of his child; I hope the same decision would have been made if there was still 10 seconds in it.

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wtjs | 1 year ago
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These are a couple of the greatest champions of all. Pogacar, as said below, has earned even greater respect from me- not that he needs it. For some reason unknown to me, I was vaguely supporting Vingegaard (they're both foreign riders on foreign teams after all!) but I was never not supporting Pogacar. He's a genuine, endearing character. 

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Miller | 1 year ago
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I didn't think I could love Pogi any more than I already do. Turns out I can.

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HarrogateSpa replied to Miller | 1 year ago
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I find him immature and irritating. What do you like about him?

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bobbinogs replied to HarrogateSpa | 1 year ago
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HarrogateSpa wrote:

I find him immature and irritating. What do you like about him?

For me it is a fairly long list.  Without wishing to appear a fanboy, he basically appears to genuingly enjoy riding a bike and racing, being competitive whilst avoiding getting dragged into crap involving/blaming others.  He will try things out, he will smash up a climb to give the others a prod, he avoids speaking in meaningless soundbites, he doesn't get dragged into "let's make the whole season about one 3 week race", etc.  Basically, he is a great asset to the sport, and yet fallible with it which makes him all the more human.

Probably enough to go on for now 

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Miller replied to bobbinogs | 1 year ago
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I was mentally composing a reply but bobbinogs has put it very well. I particularly appreciate him being present to race through a large part of the season. That probably hurts his TdF ambitions but it's so much more enjoyable for a fan of the sport than these robotic riders who turn up for the Tour, somehow in invincible form, and are invisible the rest of the season. We've had so many of those already.

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Simon E replied to Miller | 1 year ago
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Miller wrote:

I was mentally composing a reply but bobbinogs has put it very well. I particularly appreciate him being present to race through a large part of the season.

From a tweet:

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He might have lost this year's Tour but let's take a moment to appreciate Pog's '23 achievements:
- 24 podiums (6 on Tour alone)
- 18 wins (shirts included)
- 14 wins and 17 podiums in 23 consecutive days (stages, overall & shirts included)
- 3 wins on 6 classics

And in the end he's human, he's just a bloke racing his bicycle. I don't see him as immature, more that he brings smiles and spontaneity to the sport as well as a genuine competitiveness. But I wouldn't want them all try to be the same.

I also hope that this also means we stop seeing all the tedious speculation of him being "the next Merckx". Because it's bollocks.

I also think lots of people may have had an inaccurate or slightly skewed perception of Marc Soler, which perhaps might have been adjusted a little after yesterday. laugh

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HarrogateSpa replied to bobbinogs | 1 year ago
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He comes across as self-satisfied and big-headed though.

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joules1975 replied to HarrogateSpa | 1 year ago
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HarrogateSpa wrote:

He comes across as self-satisfied and big-headed though.

If by self-satisfied you mean completely comfortable with who he is, I don't see that as a problem, in fact, I'd say we would all benefit from being comfortable with who we are and the personality we have, and leaning into it the way he does.

Big headed? I'd say very confident, which explains why he's so fun to watch cause it's why he's willing to ride in the attacking way he does. And given his results, I think he has every right to be extremely confident in his abilities.

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Daveyraveygravey replied to HarrogateSpa | 1 year ago
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Does he?  What would you prefer, the usual sponsor-friendly inanities?

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Brauchsel replied to HarrogateSpa | 1 year ago
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He's 24, with a palmarès that any rider would kill to end their career with. He's also a tremendously exciting rider to watch, and seems delighted that he's paid (very well) to ride a bike. 

How much more should he achieve before he could be justifiably satisfied in himself? It's not like he's just coasting now, and I'd hope the romantic notion of the tortured artist/athlete refusing to be happy has now been consigned to history. 

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Dicklexic replied to HarrogateSpa | 1 year ago
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self-satisfied (adjective) : excessively satisfied with oneself or one's achievements; smugly complacent.

I don't get that feeling from him at all. When he performs well, he always comes across as humble and appreciative of those around him, whilst also being justifiably proud of his (usually superb!) performance. When he performs badly he's the first one to admit it, yet never blames anyone else.

To me Pog seems to be very normal as a person, despite his superhuman athletic ability.

On the other hand, and taking absolutely nothing away from his incredible performances over the last two days, I find Vingegaard to be rather dull and robot-like by comparison, both in the interviews and on the bike. I'm very happy for Jonas and his seemingly inevitable second tour victory, but I was definitely rooting for Tadej to make a comeback.

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kinderje replied to HarrogateSpa | 1 year ago
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Got to agree with all of the others disagreeing with you. I like him because he is a racer, he will try classics, one-dayers, week races and grand tours and seems to be always willing to give it a go. Vingegaard is an exceptional athlete who builds his whole year around TdF (a couple of stage races, TdF then disappears to concentrate on next year's TdF). Yesterday was possibly the first time I have seen him ride like a champion and decide to try and put everyone in their place.

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Simon E replied to HarrogateSpa | 1 year ago
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I have failed to see that at any point (and I really don't like smugness or a bighead). Perhaps we have been watching different channels and social media content.

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