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"if we couldn't ask fat guys when their baby is due?"

Hilarious, especially if the poor bloke you are taking the piss out of has a serious medical condition.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-58890914

Nigel Garage wrote:

It's up to each individual as to what they wear, but I do enjoy the banter with this kind of thing - I'd be a bit of a hypocrite otherwise, as would many others here. Where would society be - for example - if we couldn't ask fat guys when their baby is due? It's all part and parcel of life.

Nigel Garage wrote:

At the highest echelon you become a role model for others, a "senpai" who not only lives and breathes perfect manners, but inspires others to begin their own journey up the ladder, mentoring and nurturing others in the art of cycling with politeness and courtesy.

Ah I love the smell of hypocrisy at lunchtime!

Nigel Garage wrote:

Oh come on! There's a difference between abuse and some light-hearted mutual banter to lift the mood on a gloomy day. I may even allow a retort about my worryingly receding hairline.

Ah, "only banter" - the cry of the humourless and ill-mannered from time immemorial.

Nigel Garage wrote:

Oh come on! There's a difference between abuse and some light-hearted mutual banter to lift the mood on a gloomy day. I may even allow a retort about my worryingly receding hairline.

Nigel Garrage wrote:

Where would society be - for example - if we couldn't ask fat guys when their baby is due? It's all part and parcel of life.

When is calling an overweight man pregnant abuse, and when is it light hearted banter?  I used to think that your stand on courtesy and politeness was the one principle you actually believed in, as opposed to the obvious trolling, but this comment confirms it is trolls all the way down.... 

Wow, you really are a nasty piece of work, aren't you? Overeating can stem from a panoply of causes, many of them mental health related: people who were abused as children are statistically significantly more likely to be obese, for example. Many people suffer weight gain as a result of medical problems: some years ago a combination of chemotherapy drugs and steroids (plus the fact I was too ill to ride) made me balloon to fifteen stone, even though I put myself on a strict 1200 calorie a day diet. It made me as depressed as I've ever been in my life (and I'm usually quite a cheery sort of cove), knowing that people like you would be looking at me and assuming that meant I was one of those "who spend too long in the cream cake aisle in Morrisons, or enjoy the odd double quarter pounder." Your attitude is pure poison and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Nigel Garage wrote:

Talking of nasty pieces of work, you appear to have put a load of words down that I didn't actually write in a vain attempt to be magnanimous. I did laugh at the "cheery sort of cove" label that you awarded yourself. Anyway, as always, when people get personal I withdraw from the conversation. So have a great evening.

"Magnanimous"? Oh dear, ignorant of the meaning of language on top of everything else.

Yes, you withdraw because people get personal...and toddle off and insult overweight men by asking when the baby's due, that's not personal. 

You did promise months ago that you were leaving this site - you remember, it was just before you changed your username three times and then got banned? - it really is time for you to make good on that, you stink up the joint.

And no apology will you get, given that magnanimous does not have the meaning you are claiming for it in British English, which is why you've had to, rather desperately, resort to citing a US dictionary.

Bye

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/fat-shaming-makes-things-worse

Nigel Garage wrote:

The point is that facts should come before people's feelings, politeness notwithstanding. And let's be honest, there's those of us who eat healthily and look after ourselves, and then there's others who spend too long in the cream cake aisle in Morrisons, or enjoy the odd double quarter pounder.

Now I'm no psychologist, but I believe that a bit of rib-ticklingly funny banter with friends about weight is a far less harmful to someone's health than either allowing them to go on eating and suffer the consequences, or tell them straight up and upset their feelings. I wouldn't do the same to a woman (and here I'm defining the word "woman" as someone born as a female), because statistically they have a lower chance of having health-related heart problems.

until the banter hurts their feelings..or is that covered by your facts before feelings comments and  unless of course you're a woman in which no comments at all are appropriate. 

Nigel Garage wrote:

Oh come on! There's a difference between abuse and some light-hearted mutual banter to lift the mood on a gloomy day. I may even allow a retort about my worryingly receding hairline.

It might be light hearted banter to you but not to your victim and will more than likely have an affect on that persons mental health. Banter, a thinly disguised term for abuse aimed at people who don't fit your ideal.

Careful Nigel - bit of a minefield here even for someone with your tactfulness! It might not be such bantz with fat women and it's possible to be mistaken.

Nigel Garage wrote:

chrisonatrike wrote:

Careful Nigel - bit of a minefield here even for someone with your tactfulness! It might not be such bantz with fat women and it's possible to be mistaken.

For the record, I'd never ask a woman when her baby is due or anything to do with weight because that falls outside the realms of humour and becomes personal. Or a man with long hair. Just in case.

I am decades behind the now but I understand it is not even that simple:

https://www.pride.com/entertainment/2018/3/22/11-drag-kings-you-should-definitely-know-about

I may have broader tastes than you though since I ride both ways - upright and 'bent. I've nothing against tandems, penny farthings or tricycles either. Those unicyclists though...

chrisonatrike wrote:

I may have broader tastes than you though since I ride both ways - upright and 'bent. I've nothing against tandems, penny farthings or tricycles either. Those unicyclists though...

The difference between a bicyclist and a unicyclist is just attire.

hawkinspeter wrote:

chrisonatrike wrote:

I may have broader tastes than you though since I ride both ways - upright and 'bent. I've nothing against tandems, penny farthings or tricycles either. Those unicyclists though...

The difference between a bicyclist and a unicyclist is just attire.

I find them unbalanced myself. Can agree that "two wheels" is a bicycle however you frame it?

chrisonatrike wrote:

Nigel Garage wrote:

chrisonatrike wrote:

Careful Nigel - bit of a minefield here even for someone with your tactfulness! It might not be such bantz with fat women and it's possible to be mistaken.

For the record, I'd never ask a woman when her baby is due or anything to do with weight because that falls outside the realms of humour and becomes personal. Or a man with long hair. Just in case.

I am decades behind the now but I understand it is not even that simple:

https://www.pride.com/entertainment/2018/3/22/11-drag-kings-you-should-definitely-know-about

I may have broader tastes than you though since I ride both ways - upright and 'bent. I've nothing against tandems, penny farthings or tricycles either. Those unicyclists though...

I blame inclusivity, these bikesexuals now think they can flaunt their desire to ride anything they see in front of everyone. It's quite disturbing.

Nigel Garage wrote:

chrisonatrike wrote:

Careful Nigel - bit of a minefield here even for someone with your tactfulness! It might not be such bantz with fat women and it's possible to be mistaken.

For the record, I'd never ask a woman when her baby is due or anything to do with weight because that falls outside the realms of humour and becomes personal. Or a man with long hair. Just in case.

but ok to ask a man about his weight or joke about it?

Nigel Garage wrote:

I'd be a bit of a hypocrite

Surely nobody's ever accused you of that!

Edit: I see Stomec has🤔

Nigel Garage wrote:

Where would society be - for example - if we couldn't ask fat guys when their baby is due? It's all part and parcel of life.

Is this an example of your oft-boasted-self-promoted "courtesy" - being rude to other people because of their weight? Classy.

Rendel Harris wrote:

Nigel Garage wrote:

Where would society be - for example - if we couldn't ask fat guys when their baby is due? It's all part and parcel of life.

Is this an example of your oft-boasted-self-promoted "courtesy" - being rude to other people because of their weight? Classy.

As a resident fat lad, I'm certain Boo wouldn't comment on peoples weight, the likelyhood of a knuckle sandwich as a responce would terrify him.

Maybe it's normal clothing that needs a rethink. I mean, what is it about a shirt and trousers that's so optimal for office based work for example? Surely a onesie with a giant bum pad would be better for sitting on your backside all day??

After 18 months of home working I can neither confirm nor deny this.

HoarseMann wrote:

Maybe it's normal clothing that needs a rethink. I mean, what is it about a shirt and trousers that's so optimal for office based work for example? Surely a onesie with a giant bum pad would be better for sitting on your backside all day??

D'you know, after sitting on a less than ideal chair working from home (including today) for the best (or worst) part of two years, I've never once thought of wearing padded shorts! Might give it a try!

I like bikes wrote:

People have got a point about lycra and ballet shoes, i regularly do50-100 mile rides, and manage comfortably in normal looking clothing 🤷‍♂️

It was tap dancing shoes aksherly.

Anyway, as others have said: what's wrong with wearing appropriate clothing for the activity?
A hard hat and hi-viz to work on a building site
Running shoes and shorts to go jogging

I could go on.

The last person to comment on my cycling attire (whilst I was actually - err - cycling) was wearing an American football top and a baseball cap.
I did consider asking when they last (or ever) participated in either of those two sports, but thought it best to not make their head explode

I once had a discussion with a bloke in a pub about wearing lycra, he ridiculed it.   He was there to watch football while wearing a replica football club shirt.

Kapelmuur wrote:

I once had a discussion with a bloke in a pub about wearing lycra, he ridiculed it.   He was there to watch football while wearing a replica football club shirt.

I've got severa cycling top versions of football shirts. They'll just blow your mind!

I make sure I only wear my Bruichladdich jersey when I plan on cycling and drinking.