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Why do moany people on the internet hate police keeping cyclists safe? Close pass operation met with usual complaints; Ben Healy plays down Amstel drafting controversy; Tour of Britain stage finishes announced + more on the live blog

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21 April 2023, 08:01
Why do moany people on the internet hate police keeping cyclists safe? Close pass operation met with usual complaints

You know how these work by now... police force attempts to educate road users and those online on how to not put cyclists in danger... post gets hijacked by comments along the lines of 'but what about *insert thing Brenda from location x hates about cyclists*'... we all get our bingo cards out to despair at the mindset of some people who use the roads...

We're in Norfolk for today's anti-cycling bingo where the county's constabulary informed the public about its recent close pass operation, "proactively working to reduce the dangers caused by motorists who choose to drive too closely to cyclists".

Officers on bicycles are equipped with action camera devices to secure and record evidence of driving offences. If an offence has occurred, it is reported to uniformed officers on motorcycles who are deployed within the operation area.

A motorcycle officer then sets out to stop the offending vehicle and provided the offence was not so serious as to warrant immediate enforcement action (e.g., drink-driving or dangerous driving), they are offered the opportunity to be escorted back to the engagement site for an educational input.

If the driver of the offending vehicle declined the offer of an educational input, they would then be issued with a Traffic Offence Report (TOR) for consideration of the offences of either careless driving or driving without due care and attention.

The educational input aims to make the driver aware of why their manner of driving was careless or inconsiderate, inform them of the typical hazards faced by cyclists and the use of a 'Pass Mat' which highlights the spacing that should be used for cyclists, with 1.5metres being the recommended overtaking clearance.

On this occasion, 19 drivers received educational engagement with a further five issued with TORs for a variety of offences including passing cyclists in a dangerous manner and use of their mobile phone.

Fair enough? Ermmm not in the eyes of this lot... markers at the ready, it's comments time...(All presented in their original form, of course)...

"That’s really good and thank u. However, when will the police start to tackle the cyclists who but the motorists at harm, ie no lights on the roads in pitch black conditions, holding a phone meaning using one hand to cycle, putting people at risk as they think zebra crossing and crossing in general don’t matter to them? Easy to blame the motorists but I suspect it’s not about safety it’s more about u can make money out of a motorist!"  Really strong start here, great ranting, good variation on the usual red light-jumping example...

"I've now lost count of how many cyclists I see without lights or even high visibility clothing after twilight, and that's on busy main roads as well as country lanes. Maybe it's time to repeat the slogan 'BE SAFE - BE SEEN' ?" Another strong entry, love the use of capitals...

"Hmm, no reflectors, no lights at night, cycling the wrong way into oncoming traffic, not obeying traffic lights and signs, using a mobile device whilst cycling etc etc….  [🤣] . Maybe you should issue a few fixed penalty’s." Elite moan per word count here...

"Get them to use the paths that have been made for them  [👍]" Short and not so sweet, an old favourite

"Would be nice to see education to cyclists as well - some of them swerve all over the road - and when they're in large groups straggling down a windy country road they rarely leave gaps large enough for a car to pull into - I can be patient but it reaches the limit doing 8mph uphill with no chance of overtaking because there's a line of 5837364 cyclists all over." Five million eight hundred thousand three hundred and sixty four cyclists in a Norfolk lane? Blimey, Rachel, that is outrageous...

"How about educating the cyclists on how to use the roads seeing as they don't have any kind of license or training??" The one we've all been waiting for, a brief road tax mention tagged on the end could have made this perfect, but I guess it's always good to have something to strive for.

Wait a minute... what's this? No, it can't be... "It's all about cyclists they are not able to look out for themselves.They don't have to take a test .They don't have to have insurance, they can basically do as they like they are above the law. Don't even pay road tax." 10/10.

21 April 2023, 16:17
Have a good weekend
Tadej Pogačar drains his beer at the 2023 Amstel Gold Race (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

We'll see you back on the live blog next week...

21 April 2023, 16:11
From the mailbox...

An email from a road.cc reader to round off the live blog for another week...

Dear road.cc

Many thanks for all your close pass actions (even if this is a little depressing). I would like to propose that car drivers that fall foul of highway code standards regarding cycling should have to do a cycling proficiency test, or a group cycle ride.  They may not be so keen to advocate cyclists riding on unmaintained cycle lanes if they had to cycle themselves. Cycling is one of the opportunities to reduce our carbon footprint.  So should be encouraged by everyone to provide a better environment for the next generation.

Best regards
George

21 April 2023, 14:52
British riders win three stages, GC, points and youth classification at Tour of the Alps

A quarter of the top 20 on GC at Tour of the Alps hail from Great Britain, with Tao Geoghegan Hart winning the race ahead of Hugh Carthy. Youth classification winner Max Poole of DSM was 11th, while Geraint Thomas and Mark Donovan were 15th and 20th respectively. Geoghegan Hart also took the points classification, while EF Education-EasyPost's Simon Carr was the winner on the final stage to top off a cracking week for the Brits...

21 April 2023, 13:46
Making La Redoute look easy (+ heartwarming bottle chucking)
21 April 2023, 13:35
Cyclist dies after falling 90 feet while mountain biking on Peak District moorland
21 April 2023, 13:18
Maintenance moaning

Anybody else spend their lunch break mangling a brake cable thanks to not tightening their cable cutters? Oh, right, yep, only me... I love bike maintenance... especially when it involves threading budget cables at risk of fraying (because you haven't cut them well) through shifters. Sorry, needed to get that out there... rant over. Cable fitted. Rear brake back to how it should be. 

21 April 2023, 11:49
road.cc at The Cycle Show: Reilly's new Reflex gravel bike and a Cannondale SystemSix with Fat Creations finish

We're at The Cycle Show today... Editor Jack is on the ground snapping some of the most eye-catching bikes on show...

Eye-catching? This Cannondale SystemSix with Fat Creations finish is certainly that...

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Or how about this slightly more understated new Reilly Reflex gravel bike which is grabbing plenty of attention at the Ally Pally?

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Head over to our Instagram for more of the highlights... 

21 April 2023, 10:22
Jumbo-Visma used AI to master nutrition during last year's Tour de France
Vingegaard Cervelo S5 Tour de France Yellow Bike A.S.O. Charly Lopez

[A.S.O/Charly López]

Six stages and the yellow jersey was Jumbo-Visma's impressive haul at last year's Tour, success aided by AI it has now been revealed. New Scientist spoke to Maastricht University's Kristian van Kuijk who told them all about working with the Dutch WorldTour squad to unlock their nutrition strategy, using machine learning and mathematical modelling to plan diets.

Jumbo-Visma Tour de France Jonas Vingegaard Wout van Aert Sepp Kuss Tiesj Benoot Christophe Laporte (A.S.O. / Pauline Ballet)

[A.S.O. / Pauline Ballet]

Race data, including biological and power stats, race profiles and weather were used to predict future energy requirements. To prove its effectiveness the AI model was tested alongside team coaches, both were asked to estimate calorie requirements for various athletes from stages of the 2019 Tour and Giro. The result? On a score of 0 to 1, coaches averaged a score of 0.55 while the machine-learned model averaged 0.82.

The computer says no... resting from carb cramming...

21 April 2023, 09:57
The collab nobody asked for... Taco Bell cycling collection
Taco Bell x State Bicycle Co. (State Bicycle Co.)

Possibly the biggest news from the cycling world yesterday (how did we possibly miss it?)... Taco Bell and State Bicycle Co. has teamed up to release a bike, plus there's a collection of cycling clothing and accessories... is this the cycling equivalent of when Greggs and Primark started doing merch?

The Klunker Bike is "a retro-inspired mashup of a beach cruiser, mountain bike and BMX, perfect for biking to grab tacos at Taco Bell" and comes with a Taco Bell x State Bicycle Co. custom frame bag, yours for $420...

There are also grips, bar ends, jerseys, bib shorts, t-shirts and handlebar bags... so much to choose from...

21 April 2023, 09:22
"If I'd caught Pogačar, I think he would have been a hard man to beat": Ben Healy plays down Amstel drafting controversy

Cycling loves a good controversy to get worked up about. Last weekend, it was Amstel Gold Race's director getting a little too close to the action, fans, team bosses and journalists suggesting race winner Tadej Pogačar got a little help from the car...

Tadej Pogacar receives a helping hand from the race director's car at Amstel Gold, 2023 (GCN)

> "Amstel is also available on draft": Controversy erupts over Amstel Gold Race car slipstream, as Tadej Pogačar says vehicle was "too close"

EF Education-EasyPost's team boss Jonathan Vaughters was one of those most vocal in their criticism, while former UCI president Brian Cookson said it was "inexplicable and unacceptable". But what does the man most affected think? EF's breakout star, Irishman Ben Healy, finished second behind Pogačar but told Sticky Bottle he doesn't think it made much difference to the result.

"I don't think so. If I'd caught Pogačar, I think he would have been a hard man to beat. He definitely was holding something in reserve after he dropped me and Pidcock," Healy said.

The 22-year-old has enjoyed a meteoric rise to the top of the cycling world this spring (even if Ryan will tell you he's been around for ages) winning a stage of Settimana Internazionale Coppi e Bartali and GP Industria & Artigianato before taking his form to the big time, racking up two second-place finishes at Brabantse Pijl and Amstel Gold. A second Monument appearance of his career looms at Liège–Bastogne–Liège before a maiden Grand Tour in May. A Giro stage win would bring the house down...

21 April 2023, 08:56
More experts, fewer conspiracy theorists on active travel TV shows please
21 April 2023, 08:46
Is the Tour of Britain coming to a town near you? Stage finishes announced
Tour of Britain 2022 (SWpix.com)

The remaining four stage finishes for this year's Tour of Britain have been announced...

Stage two on Monday 4 September will finish in the now Hollywood destination of Wrexham, while the following day heads back north to the East Riding of Yorkshire market town of Beverley. After a dip into Nottinghamshire on Wednesday (one of the three already announced stages) Thursday's stage five finishes in Felixstowe before stage six will be decided in Harlow.

Manchester and South Wales are the destinations for the first and last stage, with full profiles and routes to follow "in the coming weeks".

Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too.

Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he's not working you'll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he'll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he's a bit strange like that.

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Dan Alexander replied to Adam Sutton | 1 year ago
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Even worse... Facebook...

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carlosdsanchez | 1 year ago
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In my expericence, Norfolk Constabulary have always been pretty good at dealing with close passes. There have been some inconsistencies over the years, probably due to staffing. As of July 2018 I've made 232 close pass/dangerous driving reports

141 were prosecuted, 2 went to court an were found guilty, 37 warning letters, 3 no further action, 14 not dealt with due to insufficient police resource and then 35 I got no feedback for.

Waiting for the results on 9 I sent yesterday and just had an email saying 2 were getting NIP

Since July of last year I've made 79 close pass reports and every one of them got prosecuted.

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HoldingOn replied to carlosdsanchez | 1 year ago
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glad you are having a positive experience with Norfolk Constabulary
very sad that you have had to send in 9 incidents in one day!

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NotNigel | 1 year ago
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The Tour of Britain is coming to a town near me.  Well pleased.

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DoomeFrog replied to NotNigel | 1 year ago
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I drove through Harlow last weekend for the first time in a long time and ECC need to get resurfacing sharpish.

I thought the Beds and Cambs roads I ride on were bad. They have nothing on Harlow.

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Rendel Harris | 1 year ago
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Here's some staggering cheek: Range Rover driver first admits it was his fault for hitting a cyclist when pulling out of a junction onto main road, agrees to pay for damage, then claims it was the cyclist's fault for not stopping and says he could sue the cyclist for damage to his vehicle, then claims there was no collision at all and the cyclist fell off his bike! This sort of nonsense is the number one reason I carry a camera.

https://www.cyclelawscotland.co.uk/casestudy/range-rover-collides-with-c...

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nniff replied to Rendel Harris | 1 year ago
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A camera is a handy thing.  Last mishap I had, I didn't see anything other than the sky, faces peering in, the ceilings of an ambulance and a hospital and various complicated machines for many, many hours.  All good now though, and the driver admitted responsibility at the time and thereafter.

 

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Karlt replied to Rendel Harris | 1 year ago
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Excellent news. Also means the insurance company knows their policyholder lied to them. They may find their renewal refused. And when they go elsewhere they'll have to declare that. Of course, they could always lie again but that then becomes fraud if it comes to light.

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brooksby replied to Rendel Harris | 1 year ago
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"Range Rover collides with cyclist and then blames him."

I'm not sure that they've written that headline correctly... 

(Even the cars are 'aving a go at us, now!)

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Simon E replied to Rendel Harris | 1 year ago
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Rendel Harris wrote:

https://www.cyclelawscotland.co.uk/casestudy/range-rover-collides-with-c...

What a shitty person.

"It just goes to show that no matter how nice a third party might seem at the scene of the accident, do make sure you note all the details of the driver and vehicle involved and photographs at the scene, just in case. Whilst our clients are often surprised that seemingly nice people can turn nasty once they realise they will need to get their cheque book out – unfortunately, it has stopped surprising us a long time ago!"

If you're involved in a collision or similar scenario which involves money (including business and other transactions) you should operate on the basis that the other party will evade responsibility by lying repeatedly. It doesn't happen all the time but if it does it's certainly an unpleasant experience for an honest person.

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hawkinspeter replied to Simon E | 1 year ago
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Simon E wrote:

Rendel Harris wrote:

https://www.cyclelawscotland.co.uk/casestudy/range-rover-collides-with-c...

What a shitty person.

"It just goes to show that no matter how nice a third party might seem at the scene of the accident, do make sure you note all the details of the driver and vehicle involved and photographs at the scene, just in case. Whilst our clients are often surprised that seemingly nice people can turn nasty once they realise they will need to get their cheque book out – unfortunately, it has stopped surprising us a long time ago!"

If you're involved in a collision or similar scenario which involves money (including business and other transactions) you should operate on the basis that the other party will evade responsibility by lying repeatedly. It doesn't happen all the time but if it does it's certainly an unpleasant experience for an honest person.

If you have the werewithal after a collision, it's a great idea to snap a picture of the person and the vehicle (preferably together and include the number plate) to avoid any subsequent shenanigans if they try to pretend they weren't driving at the time or the number plate turns out to be fake.

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Patrick9-32 replied to Simon E | 1 year ago
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Simon E wrote:

If you're involved in a collision or similar scenario which involves money (including business and other transactions) you should operate on the basis that the other party will evade responsibility by lying repeatedly. It doesn't happen all the time but if it does it's certainly an unpleasant experience for an honest person.

You will almost always find the only people who might be upset by you getting things in writing are the ones who were planning to fuck you around anyway. If you are all above board there is no reason for getting things in writing to be a problem. 

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Awavey | 1 year ago
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Meanwhile in Suffolk we hear ( and i predicted after they were absent on the women's tour) the Tour of Britain is visiting and Felixstowe hosts a stage finish, though no idea where the stage starts yet.

Https://www.eastsuffolk.gov.uk/news/felixstowe-to-host-2023-tour-britain-stage-f...

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Awavey | 1 year ago
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Continuing the Norfolk theme https://www.edp24.co.uk/news/23468894.norfolk-police-release-footage-clo... I'm sure the comments in the paper will be equally bingotastic

Also note they didn't hide any of the faces like their colleagues in Suffolk did  3

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EddyBerckx | 1 year ago
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"Why do moany people on the internet hate police keeping cyclists safe?"

Because they believe they may be caught and punished. That.

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