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Had similar, although I had stopped as NG suggests we should do, to let a SUV out from a side road.  Despite lights and bright jerseys, she cut the corner and rode over me.  Prompted me to buy cameras after she claimed the opposite.  Luckily Garmin data and two drivers as witnesses  countered her daydream.

I did let oout quite a stream of invictive language as I lay on the floor though, sorry Nige.

rct wrote:

Had similar, although I had stopped as NG suggests we should do, to let a SUV out from a side road.  Despite lights and bright jerseys, she cut the corner and rode over me.  Prompted me to buy cameras after she claimed the opposite.  Luckily Garmin data and two drivers as witnesses  countered her daydream.

In my case I registered a complaint to get the road layout changed as it is frankly dangerous.  On the approach the road bears 90 degrees to the left, and to get to the cycle lane/bridge you need to turn right (which is ostensibly straight on).

 https://www.google.com/maps/@55.0801059,-3.6275456,3a,75y,119.66h,78.35t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1se2o0GQh4FsCBH28txO3H9g!2e0!5s20170501T000000!7i13312!8i6656

Unfortunately drivers have a habit of cutting the corner because they simply don't expect anyone to be turning right at that point which is why I was hit.  Admittedly it was a glancing blow and I was able largely to move me and the bike out of the way.

Well it seems to be your fault for not crossing the road to get to the small cycle path that lets you give way to all traffic to cross the road again......

TriTaxMan wrote:

 

Unfortunately drivers have a habit of cutting the corner because they simply don't expect anyone to be turning right at that point which is why I was hit.  Admittedly it was a glancing blow and I was able largely to move me and the bike out of the way.

And I notice that the car coming round the bend on the streetview is over the white lines...

I had to read that three times as I thought I'd missed the gotcha. But no, all sensible!

I agree too, but it is nice to ride in the sunshine this time of year. So I will try and pick a route that avoids roads where I would be riding directly into the sun and use daylight visible rear flashing lights.

HoarseMann wrote:

I had to read that three times as I thought I'd missed the gotcha. But no, all sensible!

Wot? Was that deliberately missing El Garage opening the door to let the "sun was in my eyes" defense in?

chrisonatrike wrote:

HoarseMann wrote:

I had to read that three times as I thought I'd missed the gotcha. But no, all sensible!

Wot? Was that deliberately missing El Garage opening the door to let the "sun was in my eyes" defense in?

Hehe, it's no defence, but I'm acutely aware how careless and cavalier some drivers are when confronted with glare from the sun. It's sensible to consider the risk and take steps to reduce it where you can.

HoarseMann wrote:

chrisonatrike wrote:

HoarseMann wrote:

I had to read that three times as I thought I'd missed the gotcha. But no, all sensible!

Wot? Was that deliberately missing El Garage opening the door to let the "sun was in my eyes" defense in?

Hehe, it's no defence, but I'm acutely aware how careless and cavalier some drivers are when confronted with glare from the sun. It's sensible to consider the risk and take steps to reduce it where you can.

I try to reduce risk but I'm also conscious that the main factor isn't in my control. Apart from just not going cycling on a road...

I'm also aware that "making sure they have no excuses when it comes to court" also is mosly a ritual with mostly "magical" value. Apparently "I didn't see them" or "I don't remember" is a defense. So what I wear / don't wear will have no bearing. If you don't wear it they'll say it's your fault, if you do they'll say it wasn't their fault.

I'd rather we ran ALL our transport systems with regard to the hierarchy of controls of hazards e.g. eliminate the hazard (move the vehicles somewhere else / fewer or no vehicles), isolate people from the hazard (protected infrastructure), administrative controls (better checks on / enforcement for drivers) and right at the bottom PPE.

yep, there's only so much you can do. I'm probably a bit unusual as I now try and observe every single overtaking vehicle in my mirror, to check they look like they've seen me. Generally I feel a bit more in control that way, but it's not perfect and was mentally exhausting until I got used to doing it.

Nefarious drivers "Awesome low winter sun in my eyes! Time to add to the cyclist hit count!"

I'm happy to play Spot the Cyclist. I can see cyclists in all the photos. What do I win?

Agreed though, on grey days I'll use my Blinky Lights of Visibility (BLOV) front and back.

Also the cyclist in the first photo - shouldn't the advice be "stay out of that murder strip".

IanMK wrote:

...., on grey days I'll use my Blinky Lights of Visibility (BLOV) front and back.

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Oh, I see what you did there! luv it!

We're going to need a new dictionary.