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I thought the horse rider was brilliant.

Just sent that to SiL who works with a horse charity for the disabled.

Hilarious - although when he revved the car I was hoped he would end up with hoof prints in the bonnet !

Superb coolness by that young woman in the face of such aggressive behaviour from the deranged Gammon.
Someone with that utter lack of self-control should simply not be in charge of a car.

I thought that they were both obnoxious, really. The horse-rider was itching for an argument no less than the driver.

The horse rider was polite. How on earth do you claim she was obnoxious ?

Aapje wrote:

I thought that they were both obnoxious, really. The horse-rider was itching for an argument no less than the driver.

Can you qualify please? Obnoxiousness certainly from the old codger - insults, patronisation (or attempting to at least), imposition of superiority (again attempted if not actually achieved),  not to mention use of car a s a weapon to intimidate. 

Not sure what the rider did that was obnoxious, except for holding her ground and politely and calmly not accepting the above.

True, I might have told the old c*nt to f*ck off and walked/pedalled/trotted away. She did neither, so where was she being obnoxious?

It was the extended version where she says 'Ni' repeatedly

hirsute wrote:

It was the extended version where she says 'Ni' repeatedly

Asking for a shrubbery was when her behaviour really went beyond the pale. Indefensible....

Are you sure it wasn't asking for another shrubbery ?

Secret_squirrel wrote:

I'd be so proud of her if that had been my daughter on that horse.

Car driver obviously a frothing loon.

Lets hope the police get involved.

If they aren't now it is unlikely that they will be, the vid was uploaded last Sept. But yes, hope they were

If he's local (which I suspect he isn't) I'd be more than happy to dump a couple of bags of manure on his hedge for him. Stables give it away for free, surprised the rider didn't consider doing that...

Equally, you have to be some special sort of deathwish weirdo to take on a horse on foot. Given all the effin and jeffin she had it under impressively close control but as we know from previous horse-related posts they're a mind unto themselves

Thats a very good point.  The young lady appear to have excellent horse(wo)manship skills and a well trained horse.

kil0ran wrote:

Given all the effin and jeffin she had it under impressively close control but as we know from previous horse-related posts they're a mind unto themselves

The horse was the second most intelligent animal in that scenario.

I think if I were her, I'd be very tempted to ride past his house on a regular basis in the hope that my horse would poop at the end of his drive. 

She showed a great deal of restraint in her dealings with a dazed and confused gammon.

I hope the cops dealt with him appropriately. I'd have thought a charge of threatening behaviour would've been about right.

The amount of pedestrians who just step into the totally seperated cycle paths without looking in London is something to behold. Even though they are mostly like small roads with drop curbs and their own crossing lights. 

Same here in Bristol.  I suppose my point was more that this is down to their ignorance/obliviousness, rather than to any failings in the signage...

I agree that, particularly in the UK, there is public ignorance of correct behaviour around shared paths. That should be no surprise to what is a relatively new experience for many.
Surely answer is education, and part of this needs to be an old fashioned government TV/ online education campaign. Charly the cat or "meet Mike he swims like a fish". For those of us old enough to remember.
But perhaps the current government would label this the nanny state.

Not from the other side of the road they arent, you cross as a mass of people towards the prom and find you've walked straight into the cycle lane,you stop as you arent sure if the bikes will stop,they should but it's easy to get the timings wrong and hesitate enough to lead a misjudgment,and theres a bunch of people behind you not sure why you've stopped and dont want to be stuck on a dual carriageway when the lights go green and so push you forward or past you ,then find they are also on a cycle path, maybe you get across and join the other mass of people avoiding the lane or you use the lane to avoid the mass of people as technically pedestrians are allowed to do on shared paths.

Plus the picture quoted above demonstrates the other problem, 2 riders side by side, but the lane is bidirectional,the paint just shows slow towards them there because they are approaching a bus stop/shelter (not even bus bypass loop) so what does a rider going the other way do ? What normally happens is one of those riders takes a gap through the pedestrians.

So now pedestrians arent sure if even walking on their bit means they dont come into conflict with cyclists.

It's just a bad setup there imo

OK.  TBH I'm not defending these shared-use/segregated-shared-use areas, because on the whole and on principle I think they're rubbish.  But in my experience the signage isn't so bad on most of them (maybe I have confirmation bias because I tend to look out for it?).

tbf, once in Germany, strolling out of work chatting with colleagues, I didnt notice that I'd strolled into an adjoining cycle lane. There was lot's of shouting and bell ringing and I never made the mistake again. Every day is a school day.

Well, yes actually!
I did go that way 4 years ago and could see it was a problem. You have pelican crossings which lead into the shared area, but a pedestrian would just see a pedestrianised area and filter the rest out. The same when coming off the beach or prom and heading to the crossings

Muscalar cyclists riding too fast on the pavements is not the problem. It is normally the de-limited electric bikes that are the arseholes on pavements at the moment. 

Exactly. It's the easy but useless waste oF money option because cyclists don't use them. 
The 'brains' at Surrey County Council put a few metal studs in pavements, paint a few bikes here and there and a white line and hey presto a shared use path. 
The fact that there are drives from properties on some every few yards making the paths dangerous (not to mention dog walkers with long leads and all sorts of other things) passes them by. There needs to be proper infrastructure for cyclists and pedestrians (plus dogs!). 

Captain Badger wrote:

Re Local paper letter warns of "muscular individuals riding performance bikes at high speeds"

I've been spotted again - knew I should have left the hi-viz at home...

Is that you ROFLYAO?