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Tadej Pogačar unleashes Strava KOM revenge hunt after noticing Lombardia 2021 win was flagged; A humdinger to add to the puzzling cycle lane collection; How to train like a Tour de France champ — step one, get a dog; LTN vandalism + more on the live blog

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05 October 2023, 15:39
Tadej Pogačar unleashes Strava KOM revenge hunt after noticing "my Lombardia 2021 was flagged"

Can whoever it is flagging Tadej Pogačar's rides on Strava please stop it? The man's got an Il Lombardia hat-trick attempt to rest up for, he doesn't need to be smashing KOM recovery missions 48 hours out from race day.

First they came for his Tour of Flanders win (no, really, the wall-to-wall TV coverage and thousands of roadside fans weren't enough legitimacy apparently), now it's his 2021 Lombardia file...

> Tadej Pogačar uploads Tour of Flanders win to Strava... gets flagged

Tadej Pogacar 2021 Lombardia flagged (Strava)

Only one thing for it... better get them back, fuelled by the rage and injustice of a flagrant flagger...

 

Fair enough, there's something pretty cool about being able to say 'flag as much as you want, I'll just go get them back in training'. Yep, that's seven KOMs successfully returned to their rightful owner, mainly on the climb out of Gazzaniga.

Not just reclaimed, reclaimed and put out of reach, 40 SECONDS faster than the 2021 Il Lombardia peloton over the full 9km at 7 per cent sector. The final kilometre at 9 per cent plus? Yeah, I'll just smash up that at 20km/h...

Tadej Pogacar Strava
Tadej Pogacar Strava

Don't poke the bear...

05 October 2023, 16:28
A-Z of cycling jargon: find out what over 150 strange terms really mean
05 October 2023, 14:36
Sadiq Khan's cycling and walking programmes still "stuck on the drawing board"
Sadiq Khan (c) Labour.JPG

Green Party London Assembly member Siân Berry has spoken out about the "astonishing length of time to work on [Sadiq Khan's active travel] plans that haven't got beyond paper".

The comments refer to the Liveable Neighbourhoods initiative, announced in 2017, approved in 18 locations across London and which include increased pedestrian space, cycle lanes and safer crossings.

However, My London reports that more than half have been "indefinitely paused since the pandemic". Only two, Coppermill Village in Waltham Forest and Brixton town centre have started construction, Transport for London no longer inviting new bids for funding through the programme.

The mayor's office told Ms Berry that TfL "continues to engage" with boroughs over the projects, however Berry replied "it is no good to anyone if schemes to make London greener get stuck on the drawing board".

"We urgently need a rapid, well-funded and comprehensive scheme to transform London into a network of green, people-friendly streets," she said.

05 October 2023, 14:33
Council blames Tory Government's slashed active travel budget after only one in three cycling and walking projects receives funding
05 October 2023, 14:16
Defiant Soudal Quick-Step win AGAIN amid backdrop of merger talks

In the latest of the Italian autumn one-day races, Andrea Bagioli earned Soudal Quick-Step another win, number 55 of the season and the second since the talk of a merger with Jumbo-Visma first surfaced.

On Tuesday, Ilan Van Wilder won Tre Valli Varesine, afterwards not holding back in his TV interview, telling the world, "We don't agree with this shit".

"It's difficult weeks for us, so this victory is really for my teammates and for our staff, to show that we don't agree with all this shit," he said. "We want to continue as Soudal Quick-Step. We are strong enough and I hope it will be like this." 

With Jumbo-Visma's boss Richard Plugge reportedly going to be in charge of the new, Amazon co-sponsored outfit, speculation has grown that Soudal Quick-Step staff and riders will be hit hardest by the merger, many unlikely to get a place on the new team.

It's believed as few as six riders, including Remco Evenepoel, would be in Plugge's plans (Wout van Aert is reportedly keen on Belgian national team teammate Yves Lampaert also joining), plus title sponsor Soudal and Specialized bikes. 

In short, not much left for those not deemed important enough for the merged team. The Italian puncheur is off to Lidl-Trek next season, but we'll see if Bagioli uses his winning platform to air another message from the resistance...

05 October 2023, 13:16
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05 October 2023, 11:18
So, what do the Dutch make of the 20mph speed limit 'debate'?

While the Conservative Party's conference was notable (one of many reasons why it was notable, in fairness) for the transport secretary saying he opposes the blanket use of 20mph speed limits, here's what's happening in that Amsterdam hellscape where people in everyday clothes easily and safely walk and cycle about town...

Yep, that hellscape... terrible isn't it...

Well, Amsterdam is set to lower its speed limits to 18mph as of December 8, while buses and trams which use separate tracks to drivers and cyclists can still travel at up to 31mph. It's estimated, in this story from Wales Online comparing the 20mph limits there to those closer to home, that there will be 20 to 30 per cent fewer "serious" collisions and noise pollution will also decrease. How awful... (don't worry, I'll go for a spin over lunch and take my sarcasm with me)...

For more 20mph-related news, check out yesterday's live blog where we shared the story about Led By Donkeys projecting a video onto the Houses of Parliament, in which a mother who lost her child to a collision outside a school questioned why the prime minister does express support for 20mph limits...

> "We are not a nation of motorists": Led By Donkeys projects moving 20mph speed limit video onto Houses of Parliament, after PM's pledge to end "war" against drivers

05 October 2023, 10:22
"Mindless" low-traffic neighbourhood vandalism the result of "anti-active travel rhetoric"
LTN vandalism (Safer Greener Silverknowes @safer_sknowes)

This was the scene at one low-traffic neighbourhood in Edinburgh, vandals having chucked paint over a planter and sign preventing through traffic. Safer Greener Silverknows, a group promoting a "safer, healthier and more pleasant community for everyone" said the "mindless"  vandalism had potentially occurred thanks to "yobs emboldened by the pro-car, anti-active travel rhetoric" we've heard this week...

> Cycling charity accuses Conservatives of "ill-fated attempt to win" votes with pro-motoring policies "undermining" active travel success

05 October 2023, 09:34
Coach of Wout van Aert and Primož Roglič set to join Bora-Hansgrohe

The consensus seems to be that Bora-Hansgrohe will be the team lucky enough to have Primož Roglič winning races for them next season, a rumour strengthened by the reports that his and Wout van Aert's coach Marc Lamberts is also expected to join the team.

Het Laaste Nieuws broke that news, explaining how the coach who has worked with Van Aert since the Jumbo-Visma rider was a teenager is to leave the team this winter.

Primož Roglič, 2023 Vuelta a España (Luis Angel Gomez/SprintCyclingAgency)

[Luis Angel Gomez/SprintCyclingAgency]

Bora looks the likely destination for Roglič, the team moving ahead of Ineos Grenadiers, Lidl-Trek and Movistar in the race, with Jumbo-Visma reportedly set to receive a €3 million transfer fee for the early termination of his contract, the deal being financed by Red Bull who will pay the Slovenian €5.5 million per year for two years. Not a bad life...

05 October 2023, 09:15
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05 October 2023, 08:36
How to train like a Tour de France winner — step one, get a dog

Primož Doglič, Tadej Dogačar, Tom Pidcocker Spaniel, Lianne Whippet, Bark Cavendish, Enric Mastiff, Lotte Kopuppy. I'm here all week folks...

05 October 2023, 08:07
"That's it, that's all you get!": A humdinger to add to the puzzling cycle lane collection

This one slipped through the net earlier in the week but was simply too good (or should that be bad) not to give a live blog shout out... a quite exceptional addition to the collection of Britain's most brainless bike lanes...

At least they were kind enough to install a sign telling you it was the end of the cycle route, as if you wouldn't notice when you abruptly slam into the kerb. And again, don't worry about the fact you're going to have to stop, if you don't crash, and either go out into the busy road or lug your bike onto the verge, we painted the tarmac green for you!

Don't worry, it gets even better...

This is York Road in Jarrow, in the North East, and Paul updated everyone that he unsurprisingly opted against going all the way to be "catapulted into a traffic hell roundabout". 

"I've seen worse," he added. "It should ideally stop further back or lead to a shared path. The kerb particularly bothers me as it would be easy to assume there'll be a dropped kerb, then realise last minute that there's not; especially if you're heading right, suddenly got to cross two lanes."

Thankfully, a rider from Australia was on hand to make us feel marginally less bad about our infrastructure...

Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too.

Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he's not working you'll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he'll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he's a bit strange like that.

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Left_is_for_Losers replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 1 year ago
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AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

Mods take note. This person is a previously banned user and makes no qualms in admitting it. So if they are not removed it sets a precedent for all.

Fake news. 

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to Left_is_for_Losers | 1 year ago
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I suppose it doesn't surprise me for someone of your political following to call the truth "fake news". Classic right wing playbook.

Tell me you are not "thisismyusername" from previously on this site, and I will show you a god-damn liar.

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Rendel Harris replied to Left_is_for_Losers | 1 year ago
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Left_is_for_Losers wrote:

I do not intend to name drop him

One assumes you mean name check rather than name drop, the latter meaning to mention an actual or imagined connection with a person of celebrity in order to enhance your own status.

For somebody who doesn't intend to "name drop" me you do it an awful lot; obsessively, some might say.

Even just this morning you have said that this site is biased and hypocritical and that the community here is corrupt and spiteful; yesterday you were extolling the virtues of other sites, saying how much better they were than this one. Same question as usual, why the hell are you here, particularly as you have already been banned under a previous guise?

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BalladOfStruth replied to Left_is_for_Losers | 1 year ago
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Left_is_for_Losers wrote:

And had the result gone the other way, would it have been a license to ride with no lights, reflectors, and dark clothing? 

No, because riding unlit in dark clothing (although unwise) isn't a crime whereas driving whilst using your phone at almost double the speed limit is.

Also, wearing dark clothing wouldn't be the cause of a collision, because someone driving to the light/conditions should easily be able to spot someone dressed in black. Just as you'd expect someone driving to the conditions to be able to spot any of the thousands of other hazards that wouldn't be lit or covered in Hi-Vis .

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Left_is_for_Losers replied to BalladOfStruth | 1 year ago
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No, because riding unlit in dark clothing (although unwise) isn't a crime whereas driving whilst using your phone at almost double the speed limit is.

Also, wearing dark clothing wouldn't be the cause of a collision, because someone driving to the light/conditions should easily be able to spot someone dressed in black. Just as you'd expect someone driving to the conditions to be able to spot any of the thousands of other hazards that wouldn't be lit or covered in Hi-Vis .

It's a mitigating factor - as a person you have a responsibility to make yourself seen in the dark, be aware of your surroundings (i.e. not go onto a crossing 15m in front of a speeding driver) 

It's not "easy" to spot people riding in black - you try doing that in a narrow country road near me and you'd be off before you knew it in an accident. 

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Mr Hoopdriver replied to Left_is_for_Losers | 1 year ago
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"She says she had seen the cyclist before the BMW hit him but she doesn’t know if he was on the road or the kerb"

One of the witness statements.

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BalladOfStruth replied to Left_is_for_Losers | 1 year ago
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Left_is_for_Losers wrote:

It's not "easy" to spot people riding in black - you try doing that in a narrow country road near me and you'd be off before you knew it in an accident. 

It absolutley is if you're driving to the conditions (which is in the driver's best interest because a lot of the unlit hazards you'll encounter are more dangerous to you than you are to them).

I live in remote countryside, nearly all of my driving is on winding singletrack. I personally have no issue spotting and avoiding pedestrians/shed loads/escaped livestock/downed trees/etc at night because (unlike seemingly most motorists) I don't think it's my God-given right to drive flat out in the pitch black with no regards for other people's safety.

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brooksby replied to Mr Hoopdriver | 1 year ago
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He hadn't made any calls or sent any texts or emails on his mobile phone but had accessed two apps - one for the CCTV at his home.

So was more concerned about what was going on at home, than what was happening around him...?

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Hirsute replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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Also explains "told officers he thought the speed limit was 40mph - but he was actually in a 30mph zone."

His defence being I was so distracted by my phone, its understandable I didn't know the speed limit.

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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As he lived just down that road a mile from the collision he must have been using his phone for the last at least 12 years according to Google streetview. Although unfortunately at the time of the killing, using the phone for anything other then a phone call / text message was legal due to arseholes like Poophole and the slow delay of the government to rectify said loophole. 

I wonder if the prosectution decided to raise how long the road as been a 30 compared to how long he has lived "just off it" as part of its prosecution case, along with the said stopping distances of a driver travelling at the correct speed to one doing "between 40 and 50" as per his own defence.

Both easily proving careless driving. Just a shame the jury were so biased.

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eburtthebike replied to Mr Hoopdriver | 1 year ago
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"He confirmed there are no warning signs such as “elderly or horses or cyclists”. 

A policeman said when asked.  Do we have to let drivers know now that there might be cyclists or horses or old people on the road?

Driving 50% over the limit, but if he'd been travelling at the limit he could probably have stopped, or at least not inflicted mortal injuries.

"Dilks was driving at “not less than 44pmh” the prosecution say when the incident occurred.

The speed limit for the area is 30mph.

The jury has heard that Dilks began braking 15.4m before the start of the toucan crossing - the other side of the toucan crossing was 19.4m away.

The court heard that at the speed Dilks was travelling he would need 27.6m to stop and “he couldn’t avoid the collision”."

 

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lonpfrb replied to eburtthebike | 1 year ago
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The court heard that at the speed Dilks was travelling he would need 27.6m to stop and “he couldn’t avoid the collision”."

The court heard that Dilks so completely misjudged the road conditions and his own incompetence that “he couldn’t avoid the collision”.

Thus demonstrating that his driving was far below the standard required to pass the DVSA test.

Guilty as charged.

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HoarseMann replied to Mr Hoopdriver | 1 year ago
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I reckon this is the crossing in question, with the cyclist travelling from right to left...

https://maps.app.goo.gl/AQvMmj4VG77TPSdK9

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Left_is_for_Losers replied to Mr Hoopdriver | 1 year ago
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Lessons to learn for all...

But...wearing dark clothing, entering a toucan crossing 15m from a speeding car, and having no lights or reflectors does not help yourself either 

Likewise not speeding or using your phone will also help prevent accidents. 

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essexian replied to Left_is_for_Losers | 1 year ago
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Do you get off talking nonsense???? I bet you do. 

Just go away loser. 

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Left_is_for_Losers replied to essexian | 1 year ago
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essexian wrote:

Do you get off talking nonsense???? I bet you do. 

Just go away loser. 

Hello, the fact you got 12 likes on that, and had I said similar I would be accused of trolling and asked to retract that says all you need to know about the corrupt and spiteful community here. 

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brooksby | 1 year ago
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"Mindless" low-traffic neighbourhood vandalism the result of "anti-active travel rhetoric"

Bears/woods, Pope/Catholic... I could go on.

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chrisonabike replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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RE: "Mindless" low-traffic neighbourhood vandalism the result of "anti-active travel rhetoric" (Silverknowes)

Fairly near to me.  For ref: Silverknowes itself is a mostly very quiet residential place - I suspect mostly better-off (though not absolutely minted) and/or retired folks.  The picture actually shows a road off Main Street, the main road into Davidsons Mains.  This is not bad but still a bit stroad-y as it is a "high street" - a "place" with both ameneties and residential properties on it, but with a bus route or two and which functions as a distributor / connector road.  (Still waaaay more pleasant than the "urban motorway" of Queensferry Road running parallel though!).

Planters here block the road encouraging a kind of mini LTN.  It ought to be very little value as a cut-through ... except you can indeed use it to cut off a corner (say if traffic had slowed for the next 100 metres) and reach the Queensferry Road via Corbiehill Road.

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brooksby replied to chrisonabike | 1 year ago
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How many seconds does that save you?

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chrisonabike replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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Oh probably three or four.  Actually if you were stuck because e.g. a bus had stopped and other traffic was unable to overtake, or the junction was temporarily blocked, I could imagine it might save you up to a minute (which is a very long time in driving).  Or you could use this to get direct to other access points on the Queensferry Road - but then you might be waiting at those for longer to get onto the main road...

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