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“What kind of sick joke is this?” Cyclist blasts new “suicide” contraflow bike lane that “invites conflict”; “Invisible” cycle lane kerbs a danger to motorists and pedestrians; Disc brakes: The secret to winning the rainbow jersey? + more on the live blog

After failing to find a wealthy backer for his breakaway live blog project, Ryan Mallon’s back with his tail between his legs and all the latest cycling news and views on the old, traditional, historic Tuesday live blog

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06 February 2024, 09:07
Contraflow bike lane, King's Road, Kingston (Chaponabike, Twitter)
“What kind of sick joke is this?” Cyclist blasts new “suicide” contraflow bike lane that “invites conflict” between motorists and vulnerable road users

Ah, contraflow cycle lanes, our old divisive friend, it’s been a while.

While many active travel campaigners laud the safety benefits of contraflow cycling, it’s safe to say that recent attempts to install bike lanes which travel against the flow of motor traffic haven’t quite hit the mark.

Back in September, a contraflow cycle lane in Brighton was deemed responsible for a series of collisions between cyclists and motorists seemingly unaware of the riders approaching on their right, and described by road.cc’s own Jo Burt as a “shockingly badly designed bit of infrastructure”.

> Shocking video shows multiple cyclists getting hit by "unaware" drivers on a contraflow cycle lane

And in July, a new, green-painted cycle lane in Altrincham became the subject of ridicule for cyclists in Greater Manchester, with one describing its narrow, contraflow design – located between a row of parking bays and a one-way traffic lane, with no physical separation – as “dreadful” and “an accident waiting to happen”, thanks to the increased possibility of ‘dooring’ incidents, or motorists pulling across the lane and into the path of hitherto obscured cyclists.

A few months later, it was revealed that Trafford Council – who claimed at the time of the lane’s completion that the green paint would “heighten driver’s awareness” – was warned in advance during a safety audit about the dangers posed by the lane’s layout and the threat of dooring.

Altrincham contraflow cycle lane (Bob Sweet)

> Council warned about danger of drivers ‘dooring’ cyclists before installing “accident waiting to happen” contraflow cycle lane

And now, it appears to be the turn of the Royal Borough of Kingston Upon Thames to ignore a safety audit’s dooring warnings, with this interesting piece of brand-new infrastructure on London’s King’s Road, which was completed at the weekend, being colourfully described as a “sick joke” and a “suicide lane” by road.cc reader Chapona Bike.

“This is the view going up King’s Road, with Kingston Gate/Richmond Park at top. There is no space for cars going up, to safely pass cycles coming down,” Chapona Bike told road.cc

“This kind of cycling infrastructure invites conflict. Cyclists don’t feel safe cycling next to parked cars, and oncoming motorists will think they have some sort of implied right of way to squeeze through the gap.

“LTN 1/20 Cycle Infrastructure Design sets a minimum standard for councils investing in cycling infrastructure. Questions have been asked of Kingston Council as to why they haven’t followed it.”

However, while many on social media agreed with Chapona Bike’s blunt assessment of the new lane – and asked whether it would be safer for parking on one side of the road to be removed – other cyclists reckoned the revamped layout at least marked an improvement on what was there before.

“I cycle up that road a lot. It’s got to be better and safer than before, traffic flows smoothly. I take the point about coming down the hill and doors opening but that problem was there before, no?” the5krunner wrote under the original video.

“Before you could take the lane going down the hill, but now less confident cyclists will feel obliged to use the murder strip. I guess it’s better than nothing, but LTN 1/20 is being ignored, which is annoying!” Chapona Bike replied.

“No more dangerous than before and at least the vast majority of the vehicles are now facing the oncoming cyclist. I can see an occupied parked vehicle and take the necessary actions and drivers will be exiting onto the pavement,” added Keith.

> New ‘protected’ contraflow cycle lane opens on one-way road – and drivers immediately begin parking in it and crashing into bollards

“In general contraflow cycling has been found to be safe,” noted Hedgehog Cycling. “The painted lane is probably unhelpful and unnecessary.”

“Contraflow cycling alongside a dooring zone?” Chapona incredulously responded. “Don't think that’s safe at all!”

“It’s not perfect but is it an improvement compared to how it was previously. What alternative would you suggest?” asked Dave, to which the cyclist replied: “Design and install cycling infrastructure as per LTN 1/20. Easy.”

If only…

06 February 2024, 12:25
Aylestone Road (Google Maps)
“They are a danger, not just to pedestrians, but to motorists and all road users”: Councillor and residents criticise “invisible” concrete cycle lane kerbing, which caused £350 in damage to one car

More criticism of cycling infrastructure now on the blog, but this time coming from an entirely different direction (excuse the contraflow lane pun), as residents and politicians in Leicester have criticised the recent installation of concrete blocks separating a cycle lane from one of the city’s busiest roads, which they reckon are “essentially invisible” and a danger to motorists and pedestrians.

As we reported back in September, Leicester City Council agreed to replace the temporary wands on Aylestone Road, introduced during the pandemic, with permanent full segregation, concrete kerbing, and extra signs and lights as the Labour-run local authority sought to build on the success of the temporary scheme, which saw “a significant reduction in collisions involving pedestrians and cyclists”.

However, when the proposals were first introduced, they were criticised by Lib Dem councillor Nigel Porter, who claimed that the cycle lane was already a “nuisance” and that the concrete kerbs would be a “trip hazard”.

> Council shuts down complaints about plan for new cycle lane segregation as councillor claims "nuisance" lane will be a "trip hazard"

And now, just over a month after their installation around Christmas, councillor Porter has raised his head again, telling the BBC that at a recent ward meeting on the issue two weeks ago, only three of the roughly 100 people in attendance thought the bike lanes were a “good idea”.

Porter added that while he wants to see cyclists protected (that’s nice of him), he didn’t want their protection and safety to come at the expense of other road users (ah, of course).

“They are a danger, not just to pedestrians, but to motorists and all road users,” the councillor said, before claiming that pedestrians had already fallen over the blocks and that one motorist struck the kerb, causing £350 in damage to their car.

Meanwhile, Sam Bradshaw, an assistant manager at J&S Accessories on the Aylestone Road, said he often saw drivers struggling to move out of the way of emergency vehicles thanks to the segregation, and that motorists were damaging their vehicles while pulling out onto the road.

“Because they’re not marked with white or yellow paint, in poor weather conditions they’re essentially invisible,” Bradshaw, who says he rides a bike and is generally in favour of cycle lanes, told the BBC.

“90 per cent of the people we speak to are not a fan of these cycle lanes.”

A council spokesman said: “The design uses the kind of concrete segregators which have been in use successfully in London Road since 2020 to replace the temporary wand markers, and has no impact on the number of traffic lanes.

“By creating a protected cycleway, we are reducing both the likelihood of drivers colliding with cyclists and illegal footway cycling, which improves safety for people using the pavements.”

06 February 2024, 17:10
The race for promotion: The best road bikes in the world NOT in the WorldTour
06 February 2024, 14:55
Movistar riders at the AJ Bell Tour of Britain - Credit SWpix.com_.JPG
‘Get warmed up, Nairo, I’m sticking you on for the last few kilometres, make a nuisance of yourself on the hills’: Movistar boss Eusebio Unzué calls for substitutions in grand tours and describes cycling as the “most conservative sport”

To many cycling fans, Movistar, that venerable old Spanish team now entering its 44th year in the professional ranks, represent the historic, traditionalist side of the sport – the one populated by grey-haired team bosses who remember the toe strap and cycling cap-wearing, pro-EPO days, the one that refuses to budge in the harsh crosswinds of clinical tactics, sports science, and marginal gains.

So, it may come as something of a surprise to learn that Eusebio Unzué, the longstanding manager of Spain’s oldest team (and the man who thought rekindling Movistar’s relationship with Nairo Quintana in 2024 was a good idea), believes that cycling is too conservative, too rooted in its ways – and that One Cycling, the ‘revolutionary’ breakaway league aiming to shake up the sport with the help of some Suadi oil money, represents a glittering revenue-filled future for the sport.

> Cycling: The new golf? Dan Martin predicts LIV Golf-style problems as Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund emerges as frontrunner to back new cycling ‘super league’

“There are concerns from teams who are understandably thinking about the future of this sport,” Unzué said of the project while talking to reporters in Colombia ahead of the debut of Quintana/Movistar 2.0 at the former Tour de France podium contender’s national tour.  

“They want to discover other pathways to make us a bit more competitive in this jungle of sport. But we can’t give out any details given the phase it’s in at the moment. I think it’s important that we have this in mind, and we’ll see the reactions of the people who could be interested in this.”

While Movistar, naturally, were not originally believed to be involved in the One Cycling project, led by Visma-Lease a Bike’s Richard Plugge, Unzué said his team is “part of the group which is going to have other meetings soon”.

The Spanish team boss also believed that redrawing cycling’s traditionalist structure could help the sport move on from its overt focus on toughness and brutality – with shorter grand tours and even the introduction of substitutions touted by Unzué as a possible alternative to cycling’s staunch but fading hold on all things ‘epic’, and one that could potentially protect the health of the riders while increasing the entertainment value, he says.

The peloton endures another miserable day at the 2023 Giro d’Italia (Zac Williams/SWpix.com

> Why pro cycling needs to ditch its ‘hardness’ obsession

“I think this is the most conservative sport,” Unzué said. “I think almost all sports develop, whereas we’re still doing the same things we’ve always been doing.

“Since I started in the 1980s, the rules of cycling have changed very little, and I think you need to adapt to the current time. You have to make the regulations and rules more… well, I’m not sure if it’s right to say ‘more human,’ but certainly they should be less brutal.

“If [grand tours] were reduced to 15 days, the best riders would probably ride all three Grand Tours. That would give them enough time to recover between them and be competitive in all three. It would create spectacle if the best riders were racing against each other more often.”

Matteo Jorgensen, Team Movistar, Puy de Dome, 2023 Tour de France (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

(Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

Noting his team leader Enric Mas’ crash on the first day of the 2023 Tour, Unzué added: “If a rider crashes, can he not climb into a car or ambulance to get examined and then start again the next day if he hasn’t broken anything. Why not? We want more humanity. We want to protect the riders’ health.

“And why don’t we allow substitutions, at least in the first week of a Grand Tour? We lost Enric on the first day to a crash. So why not at least allow us to replace him and have eight riders on the team?

“I think we’ve all grown used to the idea of an epic sport and the belief that all these things form part of the epic nature of the sport. But remember, football didn’t allow substitutions in the past either.

“Why don't we give it a try? Let's take the step and see if we like it. A change is needed.”

What do you think? Could subs be the way forward for cycling’s grand tours? Could we soon see the likes of Tom Pidcock playing the Ole Gunnar Solskjaer role at the Giro, to keep Geraint Thomas’ GC hopes alive?

Or should cycling simply steer clear of football, or F1 for that matter, comparisons, for its own sake and history?

06 February 2024, 16:29
We’re all doomed…

I’m sure the race to blame the cyclist for when the inevitable happens will be especially edifying – ‘But, but, he wasn’t wearing hi-vis!’ 

06 February 2024, 15:53
The moustache’s takeover of the 2024 peloton

First, it was Brandon McNulty’s First World War soldier look, now Fernando Gaviria has ditched his trademark beard for a Bogotá speakeasy vibe:

Am I missing something, or is the moustache back in fashion (at least among a niche selection of Europe-based professional cyclists)?

06 February 2024, 14:28
Cycle repair business The Bike Boat launches petition to urge Canal and River Trust to change decision on licence, forcing business to close

The Bike Boat, a cycle repair business run from a narrow boat on the Kennet and Avon Canal, is facing closure after the Canal and River Trust informed the boat’s owner that he does not meet their licensing requirements due to spending “too much time in towns”.

The boat’s owner, Ollie, has launched a petition which he hopes will urge the trust to reconsider their decision, which could mean either the closure of the business, which has been running for two and a half years, or the loss of Ollie’s home.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

A post shared by Ollie (@thebikeboatuk)

“The Canal and River Trust has informed me that I do not meet their licensing requirements,” Ollie wrote alongside his change.org petition.

“Paraphrasing their reasoning, ‘mileage is fine, but [you] spend too much time in towns’ – this is despite spending one third of my current licence continuous cruising in the countryside.

“To trade I need to spend most of my time in towns, particularly the only big one on the Kennet and Avon Canal, Bath. Therefore, I can’t both meet the Canal and River Trust requirements and make a living. When I have traded in rural areas on most days, I take nothing.

“If I were to continue my current trading and movement pattern and not meet their cruising requirements, in time, it would ultimately mean the threat of losing my boat, which is my home.

“I am working on other options to continue bike repairs elsewhere, but unless the Canal and River Trust changes their position, The Bike Boat will be forced to close on the 28th of February.”

Ollie’s petition is available to sign on change.org.

06 February 2024, 13:44
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Mathieu van der Poel set to start 2024 road season with Milan-Sanremo defence

After one of the most ludicrously dominant seasons cyclocross has ever seen, culminating in a sixth ‘cross rainbow jersey at the weekend, Mathieu van der Poel’s attentions are slowly turning towards a season of racing on nice, (mostly) smooth tarmac – and the odd cobbled road, of course.

While the flying Dutchman was originally due to start his road season alongside Wout van Aert, Tom Pidcock, and Remco Evenepoel next week at the Volta ao Algarve, that plan has now been ripped up, according to Het Nieuwsblad, who have reported today that Van der Poel will instead head to Italy in March for his first road rendezvous of 2024 (allowing for some essential, extra post-worlds celebration time, too).

That delay means the world champion will make his debut at either Strade Bianche (which he won in 2021), Tirreno-Adriatico (where he’s won three stages in the past), or Milan-Sanremo, where he soloed to victory in sensational fashion last year.

2023 Milan Sanremo Mathieu van der Poel - 3.jpeg

And Het Nieuwsblad reckon La Primavera is Van der Poel’s most likely starting point, meaning that his spring will consist of all killer, no filler, as he aims to win Sanremo, the Tour of Flanders, and Paris-Roubaix, while taking only his second ever stab at Liège-Bastogne-Liège.

If so, it’ll be the second time Van der Poel has kicked off his season at cycling’s longest monument classic – in 2022 he finished third on his Sanremo season debut, behind the daredevil descending of Matej Mohorič.

And, with the unbeatable form he was showing throughout the ‘cross season, I wouldn’t bet against MVDP bursting clear on the Poggio for the second year running.

06 February 2024, 12:59
“Here, trams run down the streets, not the paths”: Edinburgh cyclists, look away now

> “If we must have more trams, let them take space from cars”: Cyclists “horrified” at plans to replace bike path with new tram line – as council says proposals will be put to public “objectively” 

06 February 2024, 11:57
“Absolutely zero chance of seeing it again”: Soudal Quick-Step communications manager’s bike stolen from outside Manchester coffee shop

Britain’s bike theft epidemic strikes again, as Phil Lowe, the communications manager for Soudal Quick-Step, saw his bike – a team branded S-Works, no less – stolen from outside a coffee shop in Monton, Greater Manchester, on Sunday morning.

According to Lowe, who says he has “absolutely zero chance of seeing it again”, the bike was locked to some railing when the thieves struck.

However, some noted that the thieves may have bitten off more than they can chew, having nicked a Quick-Step-issue and clearly branded bike.

“That’s a pretty rare bike mate, I’ll post it in the FB groups too. Not too many QS team issues around in UK, so don’t rule anything out. Fingers crossed for you,” said Jamie on Twitter.

06 February 2024, 11:38
The FIFA World Cup: Advocating active travel since… Oh, wait

While ultra-distance cycling events are implementing no-fly policies, in a bid to make at least some small contribution to the fight against climate change (and being criticised for doing so), football’s governing body is busy handing its single biggest day to a venue where it is illegal to walk…

Ah, the good ol’ US of Non-Existent Active Travel Policies.

06 February 2024, 11:10
Disc brakes: The secret to winning the rainbow jersey (after crashing into a fence)?

Now that’s what I call a buckle:

That hideously deformed wheel belongs to Stefano Viezzi, the winner of the junior men’s cyclocross world title in Tábor at the weekend, and the first Italian to win a ‘cross rainbow jersey since 2005 – a full year before the 18-year-old was born.

Viezzi took the win after a prolonged battle with French favourite Aubin Sparfel, whose rainbow jersey hopes were dashed by a late puncture.

However, Viezzi also had his issues towards the finish, crashing into a fence and badly buckling his front wheel in the process. However, the Italian youngster was able to carry on, wrecked wheel rollicking from side to side, until the pits, holding off the deflating Sparfel for an emotional victory.

Stefano Viezzi of Italy wins the 2024 Junior Men's World Cyclocross Championship (Simon Wilkinson/SWpix.com)

(Simon Wilkinson/SWpix.com)

Viezzi’s unlikely triumph, as well as being a testament to the kid’s grit and determination, also prompted a few fans to note that – whisper it quietly – disc brakes may have been key to ensuring that the Italian’s late crash wasn’t a race ending one.

“Jesus Christ, how did he continue to ride with that?” asked Dieter, in response to the post-race clip of Viezzi’s buckled wheel.

“Disc brakes and wide tyre clearance,” came the reply from another Twitter user.

> “A dark day for hill climbing”: Widespread horror as British hill climb championships won for the first time using… disc brakes (gasp!)

“Finally a measurable advantage of disc brakes,” added jverheul, aware that good old fashioned rim brakes, as much as we traditionalists love them, would have seen Viezzi come to a juddering halt after his crash.

First, British national hill climb championships, and now providing the secret ingredient to a cyclocross world title – can’t disc brakes just leave one small corner of the cycling world alone, please?

06 February 2024, 10:29
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Étoile de Bessèges riders forced to buy second-hand shoes and borrow pedals after UCI prevents them from using new prototype pedal – one hour before start of the stage

Imagine you’re a pro cyclist (alright, I admit that possibility may be harder to process for some than others), and you’re buzzing to start a new season at the Étoile de Bessèges, a start that’s been delayed by one day thanks to some farmer protests.

And then, just an hour before the race begins, as you’re milling around the team buses, a UCI official spots your new fancy, eight watt-saving prototype pedals – the ones even road.cc is banging on about – and says, ‘Sorry, son, have you filled in all your paperwork for those?’

Well, that was the scenario faced by the Nice Métropole Côte d’Azur team at the start of last week’s Étoile de Bessèges, as the Conti squad was forced into a last-ditch scramble to secure some useable shoes, cleats, and pedals after the UCI prevented them from using their new Ekoï PW8 pedals on the morning of the second stage.

The rather radical prototype pedals, which Ekoï say will be eight watts faster thanks to their miniscule 8mm stack height, allowing them to sit flush with the shoe, are set to be tested during their development stage by Conti teams Nice Métropole and Burgos.

> You've never seen pedals like these before! Ekoi’s €2 million radical road cycling pedal project predicts 8-watt savings

But, just not yet, according to the UCI, who told the team they didn’t have the right to use the pedals, not because they’re banned à la inverted handlebars, but because the authorisation file for their use, which has been submitted by Ekoï to the UCI, has yet to be approved by cycling’s governing body.

Classic UCI bureaucracy, eh?

Ekoi PW8 pedal team nice metropole1

Got any spare shoes, lads?

Needless to say, the last-minute news sent the team into something of a frenzy, especially considering their more traditional Look and Shimano-compatible shoes were back at the hotel, an hour’s roundtrip away, an impossible task as the clock ticked down towards the start.

According to French outlet Matos Velo, Nice Métropole’s riders were able to borrow pedals and cleats from other teams, while also – thanks to the specialist shoe requirements of the new PW8 pedals – borrowing footwear too.

Others, meanwhile, were even forced to buy second-hand shoes from a stall located near the start, like a panicked Cat 4 who just remembered he left his kit bag beside the unfinished box of pasta at home.

You’ve got to love professional cycling.

06 February 2024, 10:05
More redundancies at Zwift as co-CEO resigns, but company insists “business is healthy” and “our community is growing”

Just ten months on from cutting its workforce by 15 per cent, which followed an even more severe round of layoffs the previous year, virtual training app Zwift made more staff redundant yesterday, with co-CEO Kurt Biedler also resigning too, despite the company insisting that it “remains a healthy, global business with a passionate community”.

Zwift confirmed that the layoffs would “impact all areas of the business”, though the company would not put a figure on how many staff had been let go.

Jon's Short Mix on Zwift

Read more: > More redundancies at Zwift as co-CEO resigns, but company insists “business is healthy” and “our community is growing”

After obtaining a PhD, lecturing, and hosting a history podcast at Queen’s University Belfast, Ryan joined road.cc in December 2021 and since then has kept the site’s readers and listeners informed and enthralled (well at least occasionally) on news, the live blog, and the road.cc Podcast. After boarding a wrong bus at the world championships and ruining a good pair of jeans at the cyclocross, he now serves as road.cc’s senior news writer. Before his foray into cycling journalism, he wallowed in the equally pitiless world of academia, where he wrote a book about Victorian politics and droned on about cycling and bikes to classes of bored students (while taking every chance he could get to talk about cycling in print or on the radio). He can be found riding his bike very slowly around the narrow, scenic country lanes of Co. Down.

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HarrogateSpa | 9 months ago
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The contraflow design isn't great, but in my view there is no problem with contraflow cycling on that street.

Contraflow cycling does not increase crash rates.

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brooksby replied to HarrogateSpa | 9 months ago
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Might have been better to have removed one of the lanes of parked cars.  As the twitterer (X'er?) says, there's nowhere to go if you are riding in that cycle lane far too close to the parked cars and there are oncoming cars too.  Let alone if the oncoming vehicle is a truck or a bin lorry or something…

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JoanneH replied to brooksby | 9 months ago
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I agree it's an improvement on what was there before, which was two-way traffic trying to fit between the parked cars and bikes trying to make progress around it all (and still in the door zone, tbh).

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OnYerBike replied to HarrogateSpa | 9 months ago
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I would agree with Hedgehog Cycling's comment quoted above - allowing contraflow cycling is desirable, but the narrow painted cycle lane is counterproductive, especially given the parked cars. 

I would also note that a lot of people seem to suggest that if only the council had followed LTN 1/20, it would be perfect. Personally, I find LTN 1/20 to be rather underwhelming.

Taking this as an example, LTN 1/20 does suggest leaving a buffer strip (minimum 0.5m) between parking bays and a marked contraflow cycle lane, but only if that leaves enough space for oncoming cars to pass safely (Paragraph 6.4.19). Given it seems there is barely enough space without a buffer zone, I can't imagine adding in a buffer zone would be deemed acceptable.

The solution of not having a marked cycle lane is mentioned in Paragraph 7.3.4 (and Figure 7.4) but it's pretty lukewarm about it. All it says is that there may be "no need" for a cycle lane, which I would take to mean that a cycle lane would still be desirable from a design point of view, but may be ommitted to make the scheme cheaper and faster to implement. It goes on to say "contraflow cycling without a dedicated cycle lane has been found to be successful", but again, stops short of saying that it is actually preferrable over a marked cycle lane. 

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5ffa1f96d3bf7f65d9e35825/...

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chrisonabike replied to OnYerBike | 9 months ago
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LTN 1/20 etc. is indeed underwhelming (and with tons of get-outs, optionals which aren't used and "absolute minimums" which sometimes seem to be aimed at).  Plus the whole thing is "guidance" - though see Ranty Highwayman on that.

... BUT it's still pretty "far out" it seems when looking at most schemes in the UK.  Although I'm unclear as to how much previous "guidance" was followed any more than LTN 1/20 and the rest will be going forward.

Quite often in the UK the fundamental problems are baked in early e.g. overall route choices.  That could be making routes "where it's possible" not where they are needed, not adequately connecting to other routes, or a "compromise too far" (e.g. diversions from desire line, width, conflict with pedestrians / dangerous motor traffic etc).

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ChrisB200SX replied to HarrogateSpa | 9 months ago
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HarrogateSpa wrote:

The contraflow design isn't great, but in my view there is no problem with contraflow cycling on that street.

Contraflow cycling does not increase crash rates.

Nothing wrong with the contraflow in theory, but the the reality is many drivers will blindly ignore how close they pass an oncoming cyclist because of the white line and will not slow to a sensible speed, if at all.

How exactly would a driver leave 1.5m of space while passing there? If they cannot, then the lane should really be wide enough to enforce this.

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wtjs replied to ChrisB200SX | 9 months ago
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many drivers will blindly ignore how close they pass an oncoming cyclist because of the white line and will not slow to a sensible speed, if at all

You're right, but it's usually 'not at all' on any road, even single lane out in the country. I have experienced this behaviour over the last weekend.

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andyk replied to wtjs | 9 months ago
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What is going on in Richmond and Kingston of late? The decisions being made are putting cyclists at risk.

This is not disimilar to what they have done in the (Richmond) park, when they narrowed the road (but still 2 way) to introduce a pedestrian crossing area near Roehampton Gate. There's been quite a few incidents (example in attached pic), and I personally was nearly hit at the crossing by a car coming the other way, because the driver didn't realise it was my right of way coming from the Roehampton Gate side (cars don't know and are not noticing the right of way arrow signs, and to be fair, the signs aren't great, so I can undertsand why). Conversley, many cars now actually stop very suddenly on the Roehampton Gate side, not knowing that it is there right of way, so you now have anticipate they might do that, but it's hard to predict, and a bike can't stop as quickly as a car, especially in the wet. Moreover, genuinley I've not seen a single person use the crossing - they still cross everywhere else in the park as they always have - it seems totally unecessary - the road is so open you can see cars or cyclists from miles away, so it's so easy to cross - it has made it more dangerous than it was to anyone before (pedestrian, cyclist or driver). And, it's creating tensions with fellow users that simply wasn't there before?

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JohnP_SM7 replied to andyk | 9 months ago
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That road narrowing near Roehampton Gate is just bizarre.  Westbound traffic has the road narrowed on their side,  yet they have right-of-way.  Eastbound traffic has no narrowing on their side,  yet they have to Give Way.  Now, yes,  there are signs,  and markings on the road,  which ought to be a bit of a clue,  but we all know how clueless some drivers can be...

And whilst I don't agree with graffiti and damaging the road,  I do think that whoever was a bit handy with the spray-paint can back in May does have a point!

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Jitensha Oni replied to HarrogateSpa | 9 months ago
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Agree - let’s see how it works, rather than letting perfect be the enemy of the good (ish) .This has been a major route for people cycling to and from Richmond Park for years  - Kingston Gate is at one end, so the residents at least should be used to expecting cycles. Plus there are some pretty harsh speed bumps along there if drivers want to try speeding. There is a problem at the Kingston Gate end since the council have put a large planter bang in the middle of the entrance for the cycle lane (pic), making it difficult for groups turning right from Richmond Park in the face of oncoming traffic. I hope it's temporary to ensure drivers get the picture..

 

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cyclisto replied to HarrogateSpa | 9 months ago
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The problem with such narrow lanes, is that while still better than nothing, practically they force you to be close passed the whole time.

A segregated 2.5m lane (for two directions) is the minimum for safe bicycle traffic.

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