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Cycling mythbusting: Cyclists don't have insurance edition; Your thoughts on 1x set-ups — are they the future?; 2024 European Capital of Cycling is... Manchester!? Cue the complaints and laughter from local riders; New kit day + more on the live blog

It's beginning to look a lot like... the weekend! Dan Alexander is on live blog duty for you this Friday...

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08 December 2023, 08:46
Cycling mythbusting: Cyclists don't have insurance edition

One of the joys of rarely posting on social media is that you can avoid the embarrassment of saying something silly and getting schooled in a stream of correcting replies. Exhibit A:

Now, admittedly you could also avoid the embarrassment by simply avoiding posting anything silly, a situation I'm guessing might be made worse if your username starts with the adjective 'wise'. Anyway, rambling about how to avoid making yourself look silly on the internet over, on with the mythbusting.

Cue streams of people telling this 'wise old elf' about their cycling-related insurance, some included free with home or contents insurance, others obtained for a minimal monthly fee through Cycling UK, free with a magazine subscription, or other low-cost sources. I for one was disappointed to learn that the couple of coins coming out my account every month isn't going towards insurance because... an anonymous person on the internet said cyclists don't have insurance. 

And what infinite wisdom was provided in reply?

Right... 

08 December 2023, 16:40
Esso installs 50 free-to-use bike maintenance stands at petrol stations across the UK
Esso bike maintenance stands (Esso)

Esso has installed free-to-use bike maintenance stands at 50 selected UK petrol stations as part of a 'Thoughtful Driving' campaign aiming to encourage people to reduce car usage and emissions (just not too much, presumably)...

In an advertising feature for the Daily Record, Esso pointed out over half of car journeys in the UK are less than five miles, with a quarter being less than two miles.

"To inspire and help drivers make the switch to cycling" Esso has installed 50 free-to-use bike maintenance stands at some of the fuel company's petrol stations, and they apparently have all the tools for "checking tyre pressures, adjusting brake alignment or simply enabling a quick once-over".

08 December 2023, 15:44
Chris Boardman: Cambridge already leading the country on cycling and walking
Chris Boardman (Active Travel England)

Active Travel England commissioner Chris Boardman has told the BBC of his confidence in the steps Cambridge has, and is continuing to take, to be a safe environment for cyclists and pedestrians.

Visiting the city yesterday to ride part of the Chisholm Trail, a £21 million active travel route, he said cycling and walking are "part of the fabric of the city".

Cycle parking - Cambridge © Simon MacMichael.jpg

"Cambridge is already leading the country," he said. "All of the colleges — you can't bring a car unless you get dispensation — all of the policies and processes in this area makes cycling and walking the easier and logical choice to get around and it's just great to see them building on that legacy.

"When you see parents riding around on cargo bikes with kids you know you're on a winning route."

08 December 2023, 15:22
"I don't care that I'm in the bike lane, just go around me!": Note on car parked in a cycle lane leaves cyclists dumbfounded and angry
08 December 2023, 14:01
Friday Facebook Fancy: Anyone willing to give a poorly treated bicycle a home?

Jo's been doing the lord's work again for us this Friday...

It's had a hard life... 

08 December 2023, 12:35
No prison sentence for drink driver who fled scene after hitting cyclist and then kicked two police officers
08 December 2023, 12:34
08 December 2023, 10:51
2024 European Capital of Cycling is... Manchester!? Cue the complaints and laughter from local riders

Drumroll please... 

Manchester City Council is naturally delighted with the selection, saying: "From the National Cycling Centre, to mile upon mile of new cycleways being built in the city, to Manchester playing host to some of the biggest events in world cycling, it was made clear to all that Manchester was a perfect choice to be named Capital of Cycling."

British Cycling CEO Jon Dutton too saying "the city is leading the way when it comes to helping more people to ride more often", Dame Sarah Storey adding that "it is great to see their progress made on creating safer routes and removing inaccessible barriers so more children and adults can cycle safely – with more to come in 2024".

Away from the polished statements on the council's website, the reaction from some local riders has been more centred around trying to work out if they've been the victims of an elaborate prank or if someone pressed the button on next year's April Fools a few months early...

"2124 would be a more realistic year," one response to the council set the tone. In other news...

No, really...

Another local rider told the council: "You can't even maintain the existing cycling infrastructure. Vast swathes of the Oxford Rd\Wilmslow Road cycle lanes are regularly flooded. This has been a constant problem since installation yet you have done nothing about it. Do Better."

Fair? We'll leave it to you Manchester-based live blog commenters to decide...

08 December 2023, 10:50
New kit day: Bahrain Victorious go very white for 2024
08 December 2023, 10:09
POLL: 1x? Yay or nay?

QuizMaker

Because there's nothing like a simple yes or no poll to decide a complex, nuanced discussion...

08 December 2023, 09:53
Your thoughts on 1x set-ups — are they the future?
2023 1x Sram Red AXS aero chainring

As you'll have seen on the story and video below, Jamie has been getting stuck into 1x vs 2x this week, putting together a feature asking if a single front chainring is the future of cycling? Or just another marketing fad? Here's what you lot reckon...

In a nutshell...

Would anyone like to expand on that?

Jamie points out, "In reality, 1x is not a perfect solution to road bike gearing, but then neither is 2x. On that setup, you're lugging around six or so gears which aren't even useful to you – and at least with 1x every gear on the cassette is useful!"

1x comment

D-Squared: "After watching the pros, I might be wondering if single chainrings are the future... or I might remember that pros have mechanics to switch chain rings (and cassettes) to suit each stage profile."

wtjs: "I won't be changing to 1x, and I won't be moving to Classified, even if the cassettes no longer cost £100s each. I still have a triple on my 'racer' but that's used less than 10 per cent of the time. I use the Vitus Gravel — and that's not only because the cable disc brakes are so much better."

Bloody hell, don't mention brakes, we've already got one divisive tech topic for today...

ErnieC: "To each their own. I'm still in 2 x10 and 2 x 11 so not in a position to comment on 1x but not changing my set-ups any time soon." 

festina: "I run a 1*10 set-up on my road bike. I love the simplicity and the range of gears isn't that different, so many duplicates in 2* and 3* systems anyway."

Miller: "I put Campag Ekar on a bike for this year and I've done a lot of road riding on it. Ekar is 1x13 and I have it set up as 40 x 9-42. It works very well for road. I could maybe do with an intermediate sprocket for riding at about 30km/h but that's being really picky. For me 1x is not a revolutionary advance but it's pleasingly uncomplicated and makes washing your bike around the bottom bracket much easier!"

marmotte27: "Marketing fad."

philsinclair: "With 50/34 and 34/11, commonly used and needed where I live. The argument falls apart for a 1x."

08 December 2023, 09:36
1x vs 2x: Are single chainring set-ups the future of road cycling or just another marketing fad?

Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too.

Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he's not working you'll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he'll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he's a bit strange like that.

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wycombewheeler replied to cyclisto | 11 months ago
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cyclisto wrote:

I will happily pay cycling insurance, when pedestrians start paying them too and all being analog to the total damages caused by each traffic group, motor vehicles, cyclists and pedestrians.

remember insurance is to cover you, not anyone else. If you are deemed to have caused damage or an injury, you will be liable for the costs whether or not you are insured. I can pay for any damage I am likely to do to a car. i cannot pay the settlement for serious injuries which may result. Or exorbitant legal fees.

https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/cyclist-faces-bankruptcy-over-100k-cos...

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Rendel Harris replied to wycombewheeler | 11 months ago
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wycombewheeler wrote:

remember insurance is to cover you, not anyone else. If you are deemed to have caused damage or an injury, you will be liable for the costs whether or not you are insured.

Not if you have third-party insurance, the clue's in the name, it's there specifically to cover the damages of anybody to whom you cause injury or financial loss. The story to which you link is specifically about someone who didn't have insurance.

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Adam Sutton replied to Rendel Harris | 11 months ago
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I read that as "cover you" as in against liabilty (third party).

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armb replied to Rendel Harris | 11 months ago
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I think he's saying you will be liable for damages you cause whether you have insurance or not, the insurance is so you can avoid being bankrupted.
(But since the third party can't get more than all your money, they will also suffer if you don't have insurance.)'

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hawkinspeter replied to cyclisto | 11 months ago
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cyclisto wrote:

I will happily pay cycling insurance, when pedestrians start paying them too and all being analog to the total damages caused by each traffic group, motor vehicles, cyclists and pedestrians.

Cycling insurance is cheap though (often included in house policies) and it may be useful to be able to easily get legal representation after an RTC. It's one of the reasons that I'm a member of Cycling UK.

But yes, there's no particular requirement for you to have it if you don't want it.

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ktache replied to hawkinspeter | 11 months ago
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It's also part of my shockingly expensive theft and crash bicycle insurance now.

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quiff | 11 months ago
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Is this a parody account? In Ben & Holly the Wise Old Elf character is nothing of the sort - routinely undermined and shown the error of his ways by the fairies (thanks to my daughter for hours of children's TV by osmosis).   

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HoldingOn | 11 months ago
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I have insurance, but I'm afraid I don't pay any road tax.

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Rendel Harris replied to HoldingOn | 11 months ago
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HoldingOn wrote:

I have insurance, but I'm afraid I don't pay any road tax.

Typical bloody cyclist. I bet you don't get your bike MOT'd either, do you?

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HoldingOn replied to Rendel Harris | 11 months ago
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Rendel Harris wrote:

Typical bloody cyclist. I bet you don't get your bike MOT'd either, do you?

It's under three years old, so doesn't need it.

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Hirsute replied to HoldingOn | 11 months ago
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Mine's from around the 70s so not needed either.

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stonojnr replied to HoldingOn | 11 months ago
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No one pays road tax.

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Patrick9-32 replied to stonojnr | 11 months ago
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stonojnr wrote:

No one pays road tax.

I do.

With there being no government facility for it I just go out an chuck a handful of coins off a motorway bridge every few weeks. Just doing my part. 

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morgoth985 replied to Patrick9-32 | 11 months ago
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Troll!

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chrisonabike replied to stonojnr | 11 months ago
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stonojnr wrote:

No one pays road tax.

Or alternatively we all do, only it's not called "road tax" specifically, just "tax".  (Not owning a car currently I guess I'm putting more in than I'm getting out - unless you're a believer in the "small contact patch ergo massive damage" theory of road wear).

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Adam Sutton replied to HoldingOn | 11 months ago
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HoldingOn wrote:

I have insurance, but I'm afraid I don't pay any road tax.

No, but I just had my vehicle tax reminder today. Remind me not to buy a car in December again! LOL

As for my bike, insured for theft as a named item on the house insurance, and myself covered by Cycling UK membership.

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chrisonabike replied to HoldingOn | 11 months ago
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But have you got a cycling licence?  And what about number plates tabards?

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HoldingOn replied to chrisonabike | 11 months ago
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chrisonatrike wrote:

But have you got a cycling licence?  And what about number plates tabards?

They're in the post.
I left them in my other lycras.
I don't remember.
The sun was in my eyes.

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