A driver who didn’t like being called out for using the phone while in active moving traffic, retaliated at CyclingMikey with an animated and expletive-laden tirade, which included labelling the cyclist as a ‘virgin’, and then accusing him of supporting Chelsea.
*Warning: contains extremely strong language*
The cycling and road safety campaigner from Netherlands, real name Mike van Erp, often films drivers in London using their mobile phones, and committing other traffic offences, and reports the footage to the police, and also uploads to his YouTube channel.
In his latest video, which has received a fine dose of captioning and editing by none other than Jeremy Vine, Van Erp approaches the driver in his Fiat 500 who appears to be trying to make a call.
The driver on noticing Van Erp, rolls down his window and tries justifying his action saying that there’s a car stopped in front of him, pointing at the red bus. As soon as he says this, the car, ie. the bus starts moving, after which he changes stance, suddenly asking: “What are you f****** worried about it anyway?”
When Van Erp answers that he’ll be reporting it to the police, the driver says: “Well go and do what you f****** want. I’ve got cancer you c*** and I’m going to the hospital. F*** off before I get out, go on, f*** off. You f****** little stupid skinny little c***”.
Van Erp says: “That’ll sound good in front of the magistrate.” But the driver said that he “didn’t give a f***”.
The driver moves a little ahead before coming to another halt behind the car, ie. the bus. Noticing Van Erp in his mirrors, he couldn’t help but resume his tirade. “Well report me you soppy c***.”
Van Erp says that he has reported about a thousand such drivers in the last five years. According to his Twitter, the exact number is 1,369 since 2019.
The driver, then pops his head out of the window and says: “Do you know what a f****** nob you are. Go and get fingered by your bum-boy you soppy c***. No way — never had a bird, have ya? I bet you are a virgin, 100 per cent you’re a virgin.”
These do get a chuckle out of Cycling Mikey, until he gets accused of being a fan of Chelsea football club, and then getting invited inside the car.
“I bet you support Chelsea don’t you? Get that to your magistrate you c***,” says the driver. “If you’re going to be useful, come in the car and f****** w*** me off or something.”
This isn’t the first time that Van Erp has had to face swear-ridden rants by drivers who he’s caught on film using the phone or committing other traffic offences. Recently, a taxi driver warned him that he will “end up needing the dentist” after he challenged the professional driver's mobile phone use behind the wheel.
The cab driver was reported to the Metropolitan Police by the road safety campaigner and YouTuber and is now being investigated by TfL Taxi & Private Hire, but avoided prosecution as the Metropolitan Police “ran out of time”.
I’m not a vigilante, I’m the exact opposite. If you don’t touch your phone when you’re driving, you won’t risk prosecution.
Regarding this incident, Van Erp said: “In my experience it’s common for phone drivers to start claiming things such as cancer, relative with cancer, death in the family, etc. I’ve no idea if this instance is true, but I'm sceptical.
“I got offered a whole lot more than I was expecting from this driver. Going by his obsession with reproduction, I reckon it's him who is short on partners LOL,” he wrote under the YouTube video titled “The Most Eye-Opening Conversation Yet”.
BBC presenter and Channel 5 presenter Jeremy Vine, who edited the footage for Van Erp, also shared it on Twitter, writing: “I have never seen a cyclist-driver confrontation like this before. And towards the end it seems to jump the shark completely.”
But to answer the all-important question, Van Erp has confirmed that he in fact, does not support Chelsea. As for the driver, people on Twitter speculated of him being a West Ham fan, but Vine quickly shut them down saying that there's no evidence of that yet. One person did guess he might be an Arsenal fan though...
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Yeah these drivists. Funny isn't it how it always falls on the one person who just that day had an urgent medical appointment (at least cancer) and thus the best reason in the world to be on their phone while driving?
Every last individual that I know who has suffered from cancer has been driven to and from hospital by family or friends for their treatment or consultations.
That's the exact opposite to my experience; I've known several people with cancer, including family, friends and workmates, that all drove themselves to hospital for cancer treatments; if on occasion they were driven, it was only for convenience sake, so they wouldn't have to find parking.
It does depend on the cancer and treatments, but as two of the main ones can cause fatigue and /or nausea, most medical advice is to have someone drive you to them and not drive afterwards.
I'm sorry you have had lots of people affected by this dreadful disease, but it seems they have been lucky not to need serious treatments for it. As you are Australian, is it mostly melanomas?
That's pretty fortunate that you've known folk who have been able to continue to drive during treatment and their treatments haven't had an adverse affect. Meanwhile oncologists will often recommend that a patient is accompanied during treatment for either practical or emotional support. And also for somebody who can remain rational and take in what is being said and understand what processes are being presented.
And another thing. If a driver tells you to f******g w**k him off, well, you have to defer to your betters desires, however distasteful you may find it. And don't forget to salute.
And another thing. Where I live us cyclists know our place ( apart from the lefties) and would never dream of interrupting a drivers telephone call which could be vitally important. I personally move into the gutter when a driver is approaching and salute them or give them the ''' thumbs up". Even when a driver accidentally ran me off the road I managed to give him the thumbs up from the ambulance so he wouldn't feel worried that he was at fault in any way. The leafy lanes of Essex can be a dangerous place. Now where did I leave my bike again?
We are advised that part of driving carefully and competently is being in control of our emotions and you should not drive when upset. Leaving the indicator running (while not turning past an entrance no less) is an indication(!) of the distraction of the driver. - who also did not seem to realise the traffic had moved off.
Given the length and aggression of the tirade, along with threats of violence, I would hope that the police would look at ALL the offences on that recording (including homophobic comments) and the driver should get far more than an FPN - I think even if they decide only to charge with the phone offence, the aggrevating factors are sufficient that it should be dealt with in court and a higher level of points and fine should be considered.
I'm guessing you're not here for a debate on where the UK's laws fit in with the UN's Rabat Plan on defining where to set the bar on this topic!
For those who'd like to inform their opinion that might be of interest.
Anyway, back to "why looking at your phone while in charge of a motor vehicle is both an offence in the UK and a really bad idea - especially for 'professional drivers' "!
So is that a Public Order Offence, or just the way the people talk in London?
In my experience that's just the way drivers talk to cyclists who have the temerity to say "get off the phone", "that was too close", "are you blind" or "you could have killed me" etc. It seems to trigger a sudden drastic change from mild mannered human into hate filled rage monster.
I asked a driver if she could have passed me a bit closer. Her reply : I didn't hit you.
She then felt entitled to drive be through the red to make up for her lost time in speaking to me.
Given the Chelsea reference and homophobia it's likely a hate crime. He's alluding to the Chelsea Rent Boys slur which has resulted in a number of Football Banning Orders this year
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Yeah these drivists. Funny isn't it how it always falls on the one person who just that day had an urgent medical appointment (at least cancer) and thus the best reason in the world to be on their phone while driving?
Every last individual that I know who has suffered from cancer has been driven to and from hospital by family or friends for their treatment or consultations.
That's the exact opposite to my experience; I've known several people with cancer, including family, friends and workmates, that all drove themselves to hospital for cancer treatments; if on occasion they were driven, it was only for convenience sake, so they wouldn't have to find parking.
It does depend on the cancer and treatments, but as two of the main ones can cause fatigue and /or nausea, most medical advice is to have someone drive you to them and not drive afterwards.
I'm sorry you have had lots of people affected by this dreadful disease, but it seems they have been lucky not to need serious treatments for it. As you are Australian, is it mostly melanomas?
That's pretty fortunate that you've known folk who have been able to continue to drive during treatment and their treatments haven't had an adverse affect. Meanwhile oncologists will often recommend that a patient is accompanied during treatment for either practical or emotional support. And also for somebody who can remain rational and take in what is being said and understand what processes are being presented.
Accused of being a Chelsea fan? I'd sue.
ah, the sound of "I dun bad, didnut I" - manefesting itself in multiple ways, followed by a desperate, rather ho-hum attempt to belittle or offend CM.
And another thing. If a driver tells you to f******g w**k him off, well, you have to defer to your betters desires, however distasteful you may find it. And don't forget to salute.
Ah, good to see the Marines are on here! Or is it the Piers Gaveston? Confusing times.
A good soldier always obeys his last command
Hmmm. The driver's reaction would have been something if CM leaned into the car and offered to oblige.
I hope the police also add a charge for attempting to solicit sexual services in a public place, from a car.
Well I've heard of giving a driver a hand but that's ridiculous.
You fiend. I just choked my n my chocolate digestive 🤣
And another thing. Where I live us cyclists know our place ( apart from the lefties) and would never dream of interrupting a drivers telephone call which could be vitally important. I personally move into the gutter when a driver is approaching and salute them or give them the ''' thumbs up". Even when a driver accidentally ran me off the road I managed to give him the thumbs up from the ambulance so he wouldn't feel worried that he was at fault in any way. The leafy lanes of Essex can be a dangerous place. Now where did I leave my bike again?
"If you are going to be useful, get in the car and wank me off or something"
In any world worth living in, surely that has to be reason enough to not report the driver.
We are advised that part of driving carefully and competently is being in control of our emotions and you should not drive when upset. Leaving the indicator running (while not turning past an entrance no less) is an indication(!) of the distraction of the driver. - who also did not seem to realise the traffic had moved off.
Given the length and aggression of the tirade, along with threats of violence, I would hope that the police would look at ALL the offences on that recording (including homophobic comments) and the driver should get far more than an FPN - I think even if they decide only to charge with the phone offence, the aggrevating factors are sufficient that it should be dealt with in court and a higher level of points and fine should be considered.
oh dear.. you want 'hate speech' policed.
I'm guessing you're not here for a debate on where the UK's laws fit in with the UN's Rabat Plan on defining where to set the bar on this topic!
For those who'd like to inform their opinion that might be of interest.
Anyway, back to "why looking at your phone while in charge of a motor vehicle is both an offence in the UK and a really bad idea - especially for 'professional drivers' "!
I thought everyone hated CM so that would make him a Millwall fan then ?
Who Saint Mikey of Cycling? Never.
My innocent mind refuses to put letters in place of the **
Utterly disgraceful reaction.
So is that a Public Order Offence, or just the way the people talk in London?
In my experience that's just the way drivers talk to cyclists who have the temerity to say "get off the phone", "that was too close", "are you blind" or "you could have killed me" etc. It seems to trigger a sudden drastic change from mild mannered human into hate filled rage monster.
I asked a driver if she could have passed me a bit closer. Her reply : I didn't hit you.
She then felt entitled to drive be through the red to make up for her lost time in speaking to me.
Given the Chelsea reference and homophobia it's likely a hate crime. He's alluding to the Chelsea Rent Boys slur which has resulted in a number of Football Banning Orders this year
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