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Jeremy Vine calls for drivers to be banned from overtaking cyclists in cities

"I want cars to pull over if they see me behind them because they know I'm faster"...

Jeremy Vine has made the case for drivers being told not to overtake cyclists in major cities, adding that he would like to see motorists pull over if they see him behind them "because they know I'm faster".

In comments made to the Sunday Times, the BBC and Channel 5 broadcaster and presenter outlined his views on urban cycling, covering overtaking, dangerous driving, infrastructure, the frustration of motorists, recording close passes and more, starting by saying he used to be "anti-cyclist" before he started commuting by bicycle, but is now a "totally paid-up member of the cycling fraternity because I just found it wonderful".

The part of the interview that will make the headlines is Vine saying he believes "we shouldn't allow any overtaking of bicycles in big cities". 

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"That's one step. And I'm starting to think I want cars to pull over if they see me behind them because they know I'm faster," he added. "You look at it from their point of view: they bought this vehicle that they saw advertised speeding around a mountain at 120 miles an hour, and they can only move at seven. And they can't accept the fact that cyclists are faster."

Vine, an outspoken proponent for safe cycling infrastructure, also said that proper segregation is crucial, telling the newspaper that "painting a lane just doesn't work".

"Drivers ignore it. They sit in it, they park in it, they veer into it. We need to have segregated lanes, and there just aren't enough of them. There are 15,000km of roads in London and 175km have a segregated cycle lane, so we're nowhere near having as many segregated lanes as we need," he continued, pointing out that he believes many more people would cycle if they were not forced into frightening situations with dangerous drivers.

"At the moment, they think: 'No way am I putting my life in the hands of some van driver who's been up until two in the morning taking drugs' or whatever. They just don't like the odds. At some point they'll realise the odds have shifted in their favour and they'll start cycling.

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"My wife has told me I'm not allowed to drive any more because I drive too slowly. This is a very unusual situation in a marriage. And the reason I drive so slowly is that I'm suddenly so aware of the danger of two tonnes of metal that will go at 60mph if I just touch my right foot.

"The thing that makes the roads dangerous isn't even the cars, it's the driver's mind. And drivers, a lot of them, are still in the 1970s. They still believe they literally own the road. So we get this stuff about 'We were here first' or 'We pay tax and you don't'. And until we change that mindset, we haven't got a chance."

The Vine on 5 host also spoke about camera cyclists recording footage of bad drivers, topical given this week's comments from Nick 'Mr Loophole' Freeman — the lawyer who specialises in defending celebrities in court for their traffic-related cases, often by using legal technicalities.

Black cab close pass, Kensington (Twitter, Jeremy Vine)

Freeman spoke about CyclingMikey, real name Mike van Erp's reporting of motorists using their phone behind the wheel, accusing the cyclist of making an "industry" of submitting footage and sharing it on social media.

"Using a mobile phone in a car is dangerous and it is right that it's prohibited. But I don't think we want to live in a snitch society. I'm not saying the public don't have a role to play but, really, isn't that the role of the police?" Freeman asked.

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Speaking on the matter, Vine said he had reported "between 40 or 50" videos to the Metropolitan Police website himself and called CyclingMikey a "brave guy".

"He sent me [a video] and said, 'What do you think of this? I'll put it on my YouTube, but you put it on your Twitter.' And I think the last time I looked it was at 18 million views, so it's the most viewed thing I've ever put out. And it's not even mine. It's infuriating."

Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too.

Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he's not working you'll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he'll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he's a bit strange like that.

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Rendel Harris replied to Left_is_for_Losers | 1 year ago
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Jeremy Corbyn for PM wrote:

I thought from your videos you usually foul mouthed people going past

Ah, taking up the baton of telling stupid lies from your now banned chum I see.

For those not familiar with what this silly little man is talking about, I called the driver who did this (below) to me at 40 mph a cunt. I make no apologies for that language in a situation where I was very nearly killed. thisismyusername (which was Jeremy's name before he was banned) and his fellow troll Nigel (currently banned) have spent the last two years trying to use this against me, it hasn't worked yet but they keep on going.

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Cugel replied to Rendel Harris | 1 year ago
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Rendel Harris wrote:

BigDoodyBoy wrote:

This is how I drive in 20 zones. There really is no way to safely pass cyclists cycling at 15+mph. I just sit behind you guys. But many of you get pissed off. You seem to want me to pass. But I'm quite happy sitting behind thanks, so chill and enjoy your day.

Not me, you'd get a big smile and thumbs up (assuming you're keeping to the two second rule, of course (9m at 20mph)).

 

Myself, I like to add a smile and a "Diolch!" to the wave of thanks when a driver is considerate in this way.

In West Wales, down & along the many narrow lanes, the vast majority of drivers behind (in 20mph zones or elsewhere) will stay well behind. I spot them in my mirrors awaiting a chance to pass properly and safely.

Because they are nice, so am I. I'll pull over into the next passing place to await their overtake. If it's a giant tractor or a large lorry full of hay or sheep nuts, I'll stop and clamber up the verge a bit, since the passing places aren't always quite spacious enough.

Why are these West Welshies so considerate and kind? A long tradition of community thinking and acting, with perhaps the added advanatge of eschewing the gutter press of that Ingurland.   1

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speculatrix | 1 year ago
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The key thing is having cycle lanes that cars can't cross into. Living near Cambridge, I see cars drift left into cycle lanes all the time.

If cyclists can be protected, I see no reason to stop cars from overtaking.

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chrisonabike replied to speculatrix | 1 year ago
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Given that there will always be lots of "shared" streets (e.g. with few cars), surely it's "both, or either one or the other as appropriate"?  Cycles get priority where it is (should be) quiet, but when it's busy or the speed limits are higher cycling and driving should be in separate spaces - and not just divided by magic paint!

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