Joan Collins calls on Sadiq Khan to “do something” about dangerous cyclists before London “is ruined”

Err whataboutery would be harping on about an unrelated incident you yourself had on a shared infrastructure, or I dunno maybe bringing in the treatment of eldery during Covid into the fore.

I mean sure why should we take someones account at face value. Why should we take your account of your run in with mums at face value. I reckon there's a chance you were riding like a twat, I mean it's just your word isn't it?

I can see why the hypocrisy card gets played on here so many times.  Pedestrian's hit by cars - driver should have been paying more attention.  
Pedestrian's hit by cyclist - pedestrian should have been paying more attention.

What's to say some of these instances of pedestrians hit by motorists aren't exactly the same situation as pedestrians hit by cyclists where the pedestrian wasn't paying attention and walked out from behind parked cars etc.

Yes, I'm well aware that the consequences are far more severe involving motorists, but the initial cause is the same.  You see it all the time, people transfixed on their phones, not aware of their surroundings...is the green cross code even a thing these days?

eburtthebike wrote:

Between 2016 and 2021, 2,472 pedestrians were injured in collisions involving cyclists in the UK, accounting for just over two percent of the total reported pedestrian casualties (122,961) in that period.

But no indication of who was at fault in those collisions, and having been knocked off three times by pedestrians stepping or running off the pavement without looking, I'm fairly sure who's to blame.

Well done you for being "fairly sure" of where the blame lies in those nearly two and a half thousand incidents, based on your 3 encounters, impressive. That said, surely you should have been travelling in a manner, and at a speed, such that you could safely stop if someone did step out, even if for some reason you failed to spot them initially ?

That's right cyclists are blameless. Any wonder so many people have such a dim view of cyclists with attitdes like this? SMDH at 10 people clicking like this, though not really surprising here.

Adam Sutton wrote:

That's right cyclists are blameless. Any wonder so many people have such a dim view of cyclists with attitdes like this? SMDH at 10 people clicking like this, though not really surprising here.

A pathetic straw man. Nobody is saying cyclists are blameless and you are using whataboutery to try to distract from the issue...

The issue here is the highly questionable veracity of the Dame's claim, it simply does not stack up, at all. Picture posted earlier shows road is closed to motorvehicles... but it is blocked, forcing non-motorised traffic onto the pavement. Also, where was the taxi, how was her getting out of the taxi relevant? Or, the mask, or the lights, or weaving? Her story simply isn't believable, clearly some of the facts are entirely incorrect (the road is NOT closed) and the fact that she wasn't knocked over really shows the problem is not what she claims it to be at all. It's all so questionable that one of sound reason and logic would question whether anything in her statement was true at all. Why would the cyclist even be one the pavement when there is a perfectly good road that motorvehicles are banned from.

File under: old person shouts at sky.

Not a valid reason to start bashing people using bikes.

Hazard-prone Joan has a moan.

Awavey wrote:

What were we saying about groundhog day yesterday 😉

Even at 78, she still looks better than groundhog.  Sorry, Cristo.

Thats what the sign says...

https://maps.app.goo.gl/g9VR3Es2eFB2xCCeA

Clem Fandango wrote:

In other news, I came all the way to the Isle of Wight to do some cycling. Stopped in to see some relatives and was pleased to find some dedicated cycle parking. Loads of room & free from cars.......oh

That driver was doing you a favour and making sure you couldn't lock your bike to those wheelbenders.

Yeah no way I was using them anyway 😃

Their reputation is way worse than reality.

Racks like those have been in use everywhere here in The Netherlands for decades. Are they the best thinkable design? Certainly not. Have we been plagues by masses of bent wheels. Also certainly not.

Probably not plagued with banjaxed wheels as the average Dutch bike appears to be pretty much bomb proof. 

I thought the point was that in the UK bike theft and vandalism mean that cyclists favour very heavy bike- securing facilities which make it easy to lock both wheels and frame to with a D- lock (and also support the frame). In NL the much greater need for bike parking everywhere and thus cheaper and space- efficient systems means racks like this are almost required?

Nuance - apparently there's also LOTS of bike theft in NL but possibly an individual has less chance of experiencing it. Plus the most common bike types are different. Unsentimental bikes for transport in NL, very often equipped with ring lock build in for rear wheel and stand. I'm guessing the few with expensive carbon-fibre pride and joys tend to keep them as carefully as we do in the UK.