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Driver throws glass bottle at cyclist (via Twitter - Jeremy Vine)Jeremy Vine posts video of motorist hurling glass bottle at cyclist… and is accused of ‘bias’ against drivers
Jeremy Vine has been accused of ‘bias’ after the Radio 2 presenter posted a video on his Twitter account which showed a private hire taxi driver throwing a glass bottle at a cyclist following an altercation.
In the video, which was shot yesterday, a cyclist can be seen arguing with a driver while the pair are stopped at traffic lights. Though the initial cause of the confrontation is unclear, the motorist appears to have opened his car door to speak to the bike rider.
The cyclist then hits the car’s side window, shutting the door in the process. He smacks the window a second time before remounting his bike, at which point the motorist emerges from his car and immediately hurls a glass bottle, which smashes underneath the cyclist’s wheels as he rides away.
Following the incident, Vine rides across to tell the driver he “can’t do that”. When questioned by the presenter about what happened, the motorist is heard to reply: “he pushed my car”. Vine replied that “you can’t throw glass at someone”, before riding off.
Today's madness — right in front of me, a cyclist smacks a car window and then the driver gets out and throws a glass bottle at him. pic.twitter.com/n1z2W1TRHF
— Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) January 31, 2022
The broadcaster, who regularly posts videos of his London commute on Twitter, has been heavily criticised for sharing the footage, which one account claimed presented “a biased view without full facts”.
Bizarrely many of the replies under Vine’s tweet actually defended the driver’s reaction, and accused the presenter of ignoring any potential wrongdoing by the cyclist.
Chrissie Jones wrote: “What about the fact that the cyclist goes through a red light putting a number of people in danger? What about the fact that he shouldn't antagonise the situation by banging on the window in the first place? It's never the cyclist in your book Jeremy!”
One account, connected to a courier firm, replied: “You only react when the driver does something, which pretty much says you’re ok with a cyclist banging a car window?”
“Don't have much sympathy for the cyclist,” another user said. “Aggressively banging on windows isn't great and will just aggravate any situation, as will running a red light. Driver wrong to throw bottle but (mainly middle class) cyclists need to remember that the roads aren't nice places to be.”
> Jeremy Vine films motorist driving down Hyde Park cycle path
Elinor also said: “It's not clear what preceded this, but the cyclist isn't completely without fault here: that was a rather aggressive window bang. It didn't deserve a bottle thrown in retaliation, but it was always going to illicit some kind of reaction.”
One user was even blunter, responding: “What’s he expect? Driver to just ignore him smashing his car? Cyclist is the one that’s mad.”
Staggeringly, another account even appeared to doubt the veracity of Vine’s regular videos, replying: “You seem to film something against cyclists every day, are you sure you’re not just staging these incidents?”
Others, of course, were quick to jump to Vine’s and the cyclist’s defence. Lindsey wrote: “The replies to this are astounding. Does anyone REALLY believe someone would slap a car window for no good reason? The driver bias is ridiculous,” while another user said that there was a “surprising number of people who consider that there are many scenarios where aggressively throwing bottles at people is perfectly acceptable behaviour!”
Some also linked yesterday’s incident to the mainstream media’s controversial coverage of the Highway Code updates, which came into place over the weekend.
Welcome to the hostile environment created by the media over the last week.
This is on you. #HighwayCode https://t.co/0UZfACgiWx
— CyclingInASkirt (@CyclingInASkirt) January 31, 2022
I just literally cycled there where Jeremy films it this morning... That's what feeding motorists with hatred against cyclists ends up with. https://t.co/z3u8sZqQih
— Łukasz M Sielski 🚴♂️🚶♂️🚌🚕 better than 🚘 (@sielay) February 1, 2022
After obtaining a PhD, lecturing, and hosting a history podcast at Queen’s University Belfast, Ryan joined road.cc in December 2021 and since then has kept the site’s readers and listeners informed and enthralled (well at least occasionally) on news, the live blog, and the road.cc Podcast. After boarding a wrong bus at the world championships and ruining a good pair of jeans at the cyclocross, he now serves as road.cc’s senior news writer. Before his foray into cycling journalism, he wallowed in the equally pitiless world of academia, where he wrote a book about Victorian politics and droned on about cycling and bikes to classes of bored students (while taking every chance he could get to talk about cycling in print or on the radio). He can be found riding his bike very slowly around the narrow, scenic country lanes of Co. Down.
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When I was a nipper I went to several anti-apartheid rallies. One in particular outside South Africa House turned a bit nasty and several bottles were thrown. I can assure you that the police did not see the justification for such violence and arrests were made. I would like to hope the same applies today.
Taxi drivers in case they are caught short. Maybe the cyclist and JV be glad there wasn't a yellow liquid in the bottle 😮
Just like to point out that the taxi driver did not leave his vehicle. The minicab driver did thought. It's important to differentiate so as not to point the finger of blame in the wrong direction.🚴♂️🚴🚴♀️
Aaaaargh! This is going to turn into another wing mirror debate, isn't it...
A door mirror debate surely?
Who mentioned wing mirrors?
You're only on 2 posts so you may not be aware that a regular of this parish has a real bee in their bonnet about whether those reflective things sticking out the side of cars, that you use to look behind you, are referred to as wing mirrors or as door mirrors.
They are quite insistent that the fact that everyone on the planet knows what you are talking about when you talk about 'wing mirrors' isn't good enough, because they are not attached to the wing of the car.
I was making witty repartee, based on your insisting on a distinction between 'taxi' drivers and 'minicab' drivers.
M'kay?
It's not in their BONNET, it's on their DOOR.
You mean under the Bonnet right?
None of the ladies I know, have been seen with bees in their bonnets since before covid! I believe this is something to do with bears*.
*Source
Still don't get your point even after the explanation. Why is this a wing mirror debate wham all I was doing is pointing out that the chap who got out and threw the bottle was a minicab driver , not the taxi driver?
Pretty much to do with your pedantry regarding the taxi drivers. It was simply a witty comment drawing a parallel with one of our more vocal pedants whose needle was stuck on wing/door mirrors resulting in his being sin binned. The fella seems to have learnt his lesson as he hasn't bitten since. Seems to be a bit of a whoosh moment for you though.
I see your pedantry though and raise you with mine and point out that one of the drivers is actually a hackney carriage driver.
Why so rude?
I'm new to this forum so did not realise you were already having difficulty with a pedant.
I don't see what's wrong with differentiating between taxi driver and minicab driver.
We would want all cyclists tarred with the same brush now would we?
Sorry about that. Didn't mean to be as blunt. Was tired and wound up about other stuff. Hope it doesn't put you off hanging around. It's a good forum and most get on and there's some good humoured banter. There's others who.... well you'll get the gist.
Anyway. Welcome. We look forward to you joining in with all the shenanigans!
I don't know about difficulty, I kind of enjoy their persistence and determination, their indefatigability.
Collins English Dictionary: Minicab (n): a taxi which you have to arrange to pick you up by phone.
They pick you up by phone? How does that work? And these days can they just download you via an app?
I knew as soon as I pasted it that you'd be on it!
Ladies and gentlemen, eyes down for troll bingo!
- Cyclist must have done something far worse we can't see
- What do you expect in [Khan's lawless - thanks CB] immigrant-packed London that's why I live in leafy Essex
- Entitled cyclist holding up hardworking motorists trying to get to work
- Cyclist wasn't actually injured so no harm no foul
- Hope the police arrest the cyclist and charge him with incitement
- Cyclist should write a letter of apology to the car driver and be made to clean off his window
- Another cyclist thinks he can make his own laws running the red light
- Why does busybody Vine think he has a right to intervene
- Something about sexism and ableism that's totally unrelated but makes me look as if I give a shit
No mention of.....
Amended.
God those comments are depressing. The cyclist touched the car! Oh my God! He was lucky it was only a glass bottle and it missed
Vine deserves considerable credit for his efforts in general.
He does for going to confront that guy, I dont think I'd have been brave enough to get anywhere near him after witnessing that even an empty 330ml bottle weighs 200-250grams that's going to cause serious injury if it hits you intact
That's what I thought, definitely discretion would have been the better part of valour for me in that scenario, I would've tried to get close enough to clock his plate but certainly wouldn't have confronted him.
Love that the risk of scattering broken glass on the public highway is completely ignored by the drivists.
If they were concerned about what they leave in the environment, they'd be trying to not drive.
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