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Grant Shapps: Cyclists should have number plates, be insured and subject to speed limits

Transport Secretary pledges tougher rules on bike riders as part of current legal review

17/08/22, 11:52: Read our update to this story here: Confusion as Grant Shapps now says he is "not attracted to bureaucracy" of number plates for cyclists

Transport Secretary Grant Shapps has said that cyclists should be insured, carry licence plates on their bikes, and be subject to the same speed limits as motorists.

The Tory cabinet minister told the Mail that putting such measures in place would be considered as part of the current review that may see a causing death by dangerous cycling law introduced.

It’s less than a fortnight since Shapps, who was appointed Secretary of State for Transport by Boris Johnson in July 2019, outlined his plans to the Mail for that legislation – but his position set out in the same newspaper this evening, and said to have the support of Whitehall officials, goes way beyond that.

> Government to crack down on “reckless” riders with causing death by dangerous cycling law

This evening Shapps, who risks losing his cabinet post once Conservative leadership contenders Liz Truss or Rishi Sunak puts their cabinet together next month, insisted cyclists should be subject to the same laws as motorists – including abiding by speed limits, being insured, and carrying identifiable registration plates.

In particular, he is said to be concerned about cyclists riding at speeds above 20mph, which he claims they can “easily exceed” – even though the speed of e-bikes legal for road use, for instance, is capped at 15.5mph, and the vast majority of people riding bicycles would never approach such a speed on flat roads, nor are bikes required to be fitted with speedometers.

He told the newspaper: “Somewhere where cyclists are actually not breaking the law is when they speed, and that cannot be right, so I absolutely propose extending speed limit restrictions to cyclists.

“Particularly where you’ve got 20mph limits on increasing numbers of roads, cyclists can easily exceed those, so I want to make speed limits apply to cyclists.

“That obviously does then lead you into the question of ‘well, how are you going to recognise the cyclist, do you need registration plates and insurance and that sort of thing’.

“So I’m proposing there should be a review of insurance and how you actually track cyclists who do break the laws.”

Requiring cyclists to carry some form of identification, such as a numbered tabard – suggested by motoring lawyer Nick Freeman, also quoted in the Mail’s article – is seen by some as an answer to the perceived problem of the minority of cyclists who ride recklessly, including jumping red lights.

But advocates of such schemes – which where they have been implemented, tend to be ditched quickly because of the cost of administering them, plus the fact they discourage cycling and the health and other benefits associated with it – tend to ignore the greater harm that law-breaking motorists, in vehicles that already carry registration plates, can do.

Nevertheless, Shapps continued: “I don’t want to stop people from getting on their bike, it’s a fantastic way to travel, we’ve seen a big explosion of cycling during Covid and since, I think it has lots of health benefits.

“But I see no reason why cyclists should break the road laws, why they should speed, why they should bust red lights and be able to get away with it and I think we do have to not turn a blind eye to that and I’m proposing setting up a review to do exactly that,” he added.

Most adult cyclists do in fact have liability insurance, whether under their household insurance policy or bike insurance, or through membership of organisations such as British Cycling or Cycling UK.

As the law stands at the moment, they are not required to carry third party insurance – unlike motorists, who are obliged by law to have that as a minimum, although that has not prevented an estimated million or more drivers taking to British roads without such cover.

The Mail also claimed that cyclists found guilty of killing a pedestrian face a maximum of two years in jail, which is incorrect.

True, that is the maximum jail term that can be imposed on someone found guilty of causing bodily harm through wanton or furious driving under the Offences Against The Person Act 1861.

But in two high-profile cases in the past five years in which cyclists were convicted of that offence following the death of a pedestrian, they were also acquitted of manslaughter – which carries a maximum punishment of life imprisonment.

By contrast, causing death by dangerous driving has a maximum jail term of 14 years – although since June this year, it has been increased to life if the motorist was under the influence of drink or drugs.

According to a report last year from the Parliamentary Advisory Council for Transport Safety, just one in 100 crashes in 2019 that resulted in the death of a pedestrian was due to a cyclist – compared to 65 in which a driver was to blame.

In July, when he resigned as Conservative Party leader, thereby putting in motion the battle not only for who would succeed him to that post, but also as Prime Minister, we asked whether Boris Johnson’s departure would be a blow for active travel, including cycling.

> Boris Johnson resignation: A blow for active travel?

Neither Truss – his likely successor – nor Sunak are known as huge supporters of walking and cycling, and it could well be that Shapps’ comments tonight, which some might interpret as a dog-whistle to party members, could be an attempt to curry favour with the next Prime Minister and ensure he stays in post.

Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.

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JimM777 | 2 years ago
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Since the accident that brought this matter to the forefront was a case of a cyclist with a bike without satisfactory brakes, does the moron not also realise that all bikes would also require regular MOT tests. I can't wait to see how that would be implemented.

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BalladOfStruth replied to JimM777 | 2 years ago
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Plus the compulsory insurance, and the whole departments that will need to be added to the DVLA to provide the registrations, and the IT systems to support it (a rider database shared between the DVLA and the Police), plus the enforcement requirements (new divisions of police forces? a new version of ANPR?).

Implementing this will be an administrative and logistical nightmare, and as a responsible cyclist that doesn't ride dangerously, has never run a red light, has full insurance on all my bikes, part of me wants him to try it just to see the whole thing blow up in his face.

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Hirsute replied to BalladOfStruth | 2 years ago
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This will cost Bns . Who is going to do all the work for the initial registration of 20M + bikes with all the admin and verification required ?

How long would it take to register the initial users and would it be by bike or by user? And where and who would do this? Will we all have to cycle to Swansea?

These people have zero idea of the complexity of implementation and the cost of it.

Let's say 15 mins to register 20M thats 300M minutes or 5M hours. Then with a 9-5 day 625000 days and 6 days a week gives 104166 weeks. So there will have to be a lot of places or it will take an awful long time to do with only a few centres.

 

And since loopy liz is going to cut the civil service where are the staff and budget going to come from ?

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TheBillder replied to Hirsute | 2 years ago
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hirsute wrote:

And since loopy liz is going to cut the civil service where are the staff and budget going to come from ?

M'lady Harding perhaps? She who didn't know if her database was encrypted.

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pockstone replied to BalladOfStruth | 2 years ago
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BalladOfStruth wrote:

... part of me wants him to try it just to see the whole thing blow up in his face.

That crossed my mind re. 'the great unburdening' but even though brexit has been a massive failure...still it continues. Never underestimate the abiity of these self-enriching and vote-grabbing morons to double down on their stupidity and sod the rest of us.

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OldRidgeback | 2 years ago
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He's going against research from the DfT showing licencing of cyclists would be of no benefit at all. He's playing to The Daily Mail readership, as that's all he understands. My contempt for this idiot knows no bounds.

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IanMK replied to OldRidgeback | 2 years ago
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He must know he's out of the job or just doesn't want it. Seriously how does he go back to the DfT and explain why he contradicted his own departments research. Presumably he's also got meetings planned with ATE, that should go well.

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BalladOfStruth | 2 years ago
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Okay, so ignoring the fact that cyclists have a legal right to use the public highway and this would need (presumably) significant overhaul of existing legislation to implement, and ignoring the fact that Shapps is continuing his attack on the group of road users that present 0.01% of the danger on the roads whilst ignoring the thousands of deaths (increasing year-on-year for the ~7 years before being interrupted by the pandemic) caused by cars that are getting faster, heavier, and more dangerous every year (much to the troll's delight, I'm sure).

We are in a climate crisis. The majority of journeys in the UK are short enough to be bicycle rides, and the last thing we need are more barriers errected so that 90% of the people that might consider reaching for thier helmet instead of their car keys are discouraged by bullshit like this.

And this would also (presumably) mean a minimum age for cycling? Or is there going to be a seperate queue at the DVLA for five-year-olds to licence thier Barbie bikes (after having spent a few hours on the phone to sort out fully comp insurance)?

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steaders1 | 2 years ago
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This man needs to engage his brain (if he's got one) before he opens his mouth

Before any of this actually needs looking at he needs to get a grip with the "above the law" motorists, but wait now he won't be doing that because they pay lots in taxes on fuel, VAT, road tax and insurance tax and the poor old cyclist has now become a easy target, well you can get stuffed with your stupid ideas

 

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zeeridesbikes | 2 years ago
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Shapps spouting more kerosine out of his backside to fuel the culture wars. Just when you think this government can't get any worse they always find a way.

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the little onion | 2 years ago
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Presumably this will apply to my three year old daughter riding in our cul de sac?

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Rendel Harris replied to the little onion | 2 years ago
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the little onion wrote:

Presumably this will apply to my three year old daughter riding in our cul de sac?

Yes and quite right too, it's about time freeloading toddlers (has she paid anything towards that road?) faced up to their responsibilities. My granny was once nearly mowed down by an out of control toddler on a Frog bike, if she hadn't been in a different county at the time she could have been killed.

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OldRidgeback replied to Rendel Harris | 2 years ago
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Rendel Harris wrote:

the little onion wrote:

Presumably this will apply to my three year old daughter riding in our cul de sac?

Yes and quite right too, it's about time freeloading toddlers (has she paid anything towards that road?) faced up to their reponsibilities. My granny was once nearly mowed down by an out of control toddler on a Frog bike, if she hadn't been in a different county at the time she could have been killed.

Yes, young riders need to understand their responsibilities...

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Solocle replied to Rendel Harris | 2 years ago
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Maybe she has paid some VAT at some point...

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pockstone replied to Solocle | 2 years ago
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We'll need receipts!!

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OldSkoolOldFart | 2 years ago
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Is he unaware that cyclists, like horse riders and pedestrians, have a legal right to be on the Public Highway whereas motor vehicles are only allowed under an Actof Parliament?

And how one asks will wearing a numbered tabard work when, like me a mountain biker, your covered in mud? Or wear a CamelBak or Rucksack?

As for doing more than 20mph in a 20 limit I suggest he gets out of his Ivory Tower and on his bike to see just how "easy" it really is.  Downhill with a tail wind I might just break 32kph (as recorded on my Garmin) but with the best will in the world I'm not going to be challenging the speed camera anytime soon.

Moron doesn't come close

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chrisonabike replied to OldSkoolOldFart | 2 years ago
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Presumably I'd have to fly my tabard from a pole from my recumbent - not visible from behind otherwise. He's right on one point - even with my deficient cake-fuelled motor I'm capable of 20 mph+! I would say "not a good look bashing disabled cycle users either" but since this is a pitch for a post in The Nasty Party that's probably icing on the cake.

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The Giblet | 2 years ago
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Wow, you couldn't make this stuff up. Have the UK politicians just doubled down on being the worst, most out of touch and most incompetent in all time? Making it more difficult to ride a bicycle and wasting lots of money in doing that will be a great outcome for making congestion and health worse. That appears to be the strange motivation of the Conservatives who live in a world outside everyone else where logic and respect are non-existent. Have the Shatts checked out what happens in the rest of the world. Of course not as he is part of a government who thought leaving the largest free trade area in the world during an economic downturn would be a good idea.

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mattw replied to The Giblet | 2 years ago
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No - it's just thicko Shapps being as gormless as usual.

And Melissa Kite in Jeremy-Clarkson-in-2005-with-added-testosterone mode.

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hutchdaddy | 2 years ago
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Dear Mr Shapps

Please note that the vast majority of cyclists never get anywhere near the speed limit wheras the majority of drivers admit that they "accidentally" might drift over the speed limit.

Also you're right, running a red light is unacceptable, so could we have a crackdown on that, particularly those road users who accelerate towards a changing set of lights.

Also could you please stop talking out of your lowest orifice.

Yours sincerely

A cyclist who has experienced far too many close passes.

 

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Mungecrundle | 2 years ago
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Oh great! Really looking forward to getting back on the bicycle tomorrow with this crap in the headlines as justification for every deliberate act of aggression no doubt coming my way.

On the plus side, we have a local election coming up...

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guildwheeler | 2 years ago
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As both a train driver and a cyclist, oh how I detest this imbecile!
He's obviously out of his depth picking fights with ASLE&F so thinks cyclists are fair game instead?
He was recently quoted as suggesting that train operator Avanti are unable to run their timetable properly because of "unofficial strike action by ASLE&F union members" and that "archaic rules from 1919 mean working on rest days is voluntary."
Firstly, you dimwit, if unofficial strike action had taken place, you can bet your life that Avanti would've had ASLE&F in court as quick as a flash. Secondly, of course working rest days (the term used on the railway for your day's off) is voluntary! Is he suggesting that drivers should be forced to work on their days off? i.e. 7 days a week. How safe would it be having a tired driver at the controls of a train carrying hundreds of people? Plus, I think he should know that the law under The Hidden Report, following the Clapham rail crash, prevents this anyway!

And if he wants to talk about archaic rules, how about starting with the practices in Westminster? Where an MP can be ejected for calling the PM, a proven liar, a liar!
And how about a bloke who dresses in a frock and bangs on the door with a mace? I'd say that was more archaic than people not being forced to work overtime on their days off!
'Failing' Grayling was an absolute nincompoop and now we get this idiot - is Transport Secretary the job where they appoint the least capable moron?

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eburtthebike replied to guildwheeler | 2 years ago
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guildwheeler wrote:

As both a train driver and a cyclist, oh how I detest this imbecile! He's obviously out of his depth picking fights with ASLE&F so thinks cyclists are fair game instead?

Yes.  This is just distraction from the complete balls up of literally everything at the moment, mostly caused by this utter disgrace of a government; strikes, food banks, rampant inflation, empty shop shelves, NHS on its knees, the list is endless.  Rather than solve any of it, the tories just try to distract, which will work with DM readers.

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Fignon's ghost | 2 years ago
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Here he goes again. Shatts. Talking out of his arse. Spending billions on a new CVLA and infrastructure. Who gave you a blank cheque, dimwit?
The problem is 99.99% inside the motor vehicle. You cretin. You're making the divide between driver and cyclist worse, making roads less safe for cyclists with every flippant comment you spew.

What's next? Locking up kids on Grifters cos they ain't got the right paperwork. FFS.

Sack Shatts. You are the subject of a sacking...

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ooblyboo | 2 years ago
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You'd hope that this would basically all be unworkable. But thanks to the likes of the DM dragging cyclists/cycling into their culture wars narrative, there's probably an awful lot of people who'd like to see it happen. None of them actually rides a bike of course...

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Owd Big 'Ead | 2 years ago
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April Fools Day?

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Awavey replied to Owd Big 'Ead | 2 years ago
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I did wonder that myself, but sadly not the idiot actually seems to think this is a good idea.

Id understand it more if he was in someway campaigning for the leadership, or a role with the new leadership, but neither are the case really, its pretty much expected he'll be shuffled out of his current role at the very least, and there wont be an election imminent.

the Telegraph had a cringe making pr profile interview of him (and I expect theyll be full of it on this tomorrow too) the other week after he'd already been dumped out of the leadership contest and the quote on cycling was literally he wanted to bring in this death by dangerous cycling law to stop red light jumpers, but other than appeasing Mail readers with his bon mot editorials, Im struggling to see the "why" is he doing this part.

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lio replied to Owd Big 'Ead | 2 years ago
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Vote fool, get fool.

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David9694 replied to Owd Big 'Ead | 2 years ago
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Silly season stuff. Will appeal to the 160,000 racist pensioners though.

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PRSboy | 2 years ago
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If we have to have registration plates, we could presumably get personalised plates. 
 

I'll reserve SHAPP5 U W4NKR

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