Drivers and their problems

Thanks for the info. I still can't find anything on the length of the ban, if he was banned, but I did find this interestng discussion on the matter.

https://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/ashley-hulme-intentionally-mows...

Hmm...under "Special Reasons" (Section 6/3) it says:

Quote:

Special reasons

The period of disqualification may be reduced or avoided if there are special reasons. These must relate to the offence; circumstances peculiar to the offender cannot constitute special reasons. To constitute a special reason, a matter must:

• be a mitigating or extenuating circumstance;
• not amount in law to a defence to the charge;
• be directly connected with the commission of the offence;
• be one which the court ought properly to take into consideration when imposing sentence.

It seems very suspicious that there is no mention of a driving ban in any news report but lots of mentions of the culprit's alleged ADHD, which makes one think it likely that the magistrate has fallen for accepted it as an excuse and waived the driving ban.

Rendel Harris wrote:

Hmm...under "Special Reasons" (Section 6/3) it says:

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I mean it seems silly to complain in detail when we're firmly in the territory in the UK of "you will have to live with this the rest of your life / nothing I can do will bring them back (so I will do nothing)" and "these things happen, poor drivers traumatised by innocently killing people"
... BUT this sounds like a charter for eg. "can't touch me, I'm neurodivergent"?

I guess this is where a more legalistic approach to road safety is likely to fall down (although this is also "choices"...). Nothing to stop stuff like "we cannot fairly punish them (we acknowledge they maybe had reduced agency) BUT at the same time we can't simply stop them driving (they have full agency on a good day AND perhaps they 'have to drive' to access support for their condition")?

Essentially a riff on the old "incompetence paradox"?

Bollard with a Claymore, perhaps?

hawkinspeter wrote:

brooksby wrote:

Drivers keep getting stuck on housing estate stairs thinking it’s a shortcut (Metro)

A bollard or two would fix that

You really do have to look at the photo, though, and wonder who would look at that and think they could drive their car through there… 

I would assume they're coming from the far end of that view and falling down the steps, rather than trying to drive up them, but even so...

not always if the card processing system glitches or the authentication keys arent accepted for whatever reason, or the system thinks its a fraud attempt as small amounts used to signal attempts to hack your account, it can treat it like a failed payment, and it returns the money to your account to try again.

there was a story late last year in the local press about a payment through a car parking app that did just that, she thought she'd paid, closed the app, the bank decided otherwise returned the money to her account, and of course the parking firms view then was she hadnt paid for a ticket & heres this ridiculous charge we call a fine instead.

The only record she had was on a bank statement saying the money had gone out of her account, but then come straight back again, as the payment hadnt gone through the app itself said there was no history of an actual paid ticket, and the car park firm were playing the hardball version of the this doesnt prove you paid and no we dont have records of your failed payment either, honest.

David9694 wrote:

served-up by Facebook

Parking tickets are a war tactic the state uses to attack the working class.

FROM OAKLAND TO ETHIOPIA:

WE WILL FIGHT BACK! ( + QR code you probably don't want to scan )

Just wait 'till they learn about the motorised transport used to drive the cannon fodder to the front lines, or that police are enthusiastic users of black marias for carrying off uppity working class union members... or the machiavellian tactic of making driving aspirational, then allowing people to take overtime to save up to buy a vehicle to get into work sooner.

crazy that his own brief describes it as "his long suffering partner" also how come the two blokes he collected from the snooker club to assist in his driving home efforts werent being done for joint enterprise ?

How can you own a car and not have access to regular banking services?

What a dumbass comment.

Those apps are a pita to use even for tech literate folk, it can take good 5mins of app wrangling normally to ensure you've got a valid ticket vs 30secs for just dropping coins in a machine and it print a paper ticket.

stonojnr wrote:

Those apps are a pita to use even for tech literate folk, it can take good 5mins of app wrangling normally to ensure you've got a valid ticket vs 30secs for just dropping coins in a machine and it print a paper ticket.

But in the ads they're more far more convenient and quick though?

chrisonabike wrote:

stonojnr wrote:

Those apps are a pita to use even for tech literate folk, it can take good 5mins of app wrangling normally to ensure you've got a valid ticket vs 30secs for just dropping coins in a machine and it print a paper ticket.

But in the ads they're more far more convenient and quick though?

In the ads, the roads are all empty.

Not sure what apps you are using then. I used ringgo after christmas - enter 5 digit loation, select tariff, confirm - less than 30 seconds and I could extend the stay.

No need for change or if the machine is working and accepting the coins.

It was Ringgo, I hadn't used the app for a while and it insisted on reauthenticating EVERYTHING !!! But only after downloading an update.

Took at least 5mins to go through all that with the texts it sends & verification pins, and then the bank wanted to authenticate payment. All for 2 sodding quid.

Hirsute wrote:

Not sure what apps you are using then. I used ringgo after christmas - enter 5 digit loation, select tariff, confirm - less than 30 seconds and I could extend the stay.

No need for change or if the machine is working and accepting the coins.

I presume that you have to register and set up an account first?  So you'd have to know what app was being used in the particular town or area or even just car park where you intended to park, and register ahead of time?

Yes but there are only 3 or 4 main apps and I find mipermit and ringgo cover where I go.

From what I can make out before the story disappears behind the blocker, they're suggesting that the vast amounts of traffic queuing to get in to the LTN will back up and spill out onto the main road, where other traffic will be utterly incapable of avoiding them and simply plough into the stationary vehicles through no fault of their own. Or something.

hawkinspeter wrote:

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/expensive-driveway-tax-could-introduced-9437985

Who wants a driveway tax?

We actually have one in my city since a few years ago. Our stormwater tax applies to all properties, residential or business, and is based on the impermeable area which includes buildings and concrete or asphalt driveways. Mine amounts to a bit over $60 (£45) quarterly for about 22% of my ~12000 ft² / 0.25 acre / 1100 m² property being impermeable. You can get discounts if you add significant water retention features.

We have a "combined sewer overflow" problem where a few times a year during heavy rain, an untreated combination of storm water and sewage goes into the major river that flows through town. The federal government (EPA) fines the city for each event. The tax is intended to fund fixing the system so that this doesn't happen any more, but I haven't seen much progress yet.

David9694 wrote:

"outside schools and hospitals is fine" for 20 mph, etc, drivers tell us

On the general point - would that be "slowing for 50 or 100 metres is really annoying but I can cope - it's just like having more speed cameras, you just need to know where to slow a bit before you can put your foot down again..."?

David9694 wrote:

Harefield man could be fined for parking on his own driveway

Resident, Natasha Harding, 37, added: “We have an area of wasted green space next to our flat – we approached the council to see if we could buy it and make it another parking space.

“We were instantly shut down by the council.”

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/24600024.harefield-man-fined-parking-dr...

 

"Wasted green space"?

I feel Joni Mitchell might have something to say.

The steepest hill in the UK would appear to be which ever one each commentator has been up(or down) or knows of..

Maybe they just forgot...

Simon Jenkins wrote:

A year ago my own unblemished driving career ended when I lost my driving licence for six months because of a series of ill-signed 20mph limits on roads in London and Wales. The result was a sequence of police exchanges and court hearings that beggared belief. The time-wasting and bureaucracy were Kafkaesque.

Presumably the time-wasting and bureaucracy were caused by his refusal to admit what he had done and to attempt to escape punishment, there are no police exchanges or court hearings if you just accept the ticket when you get it and pay it within the time limit. 

andystow wrote:

We actually have one in my city since a few years ago. Our stormwater tax applies to all properties, residential or business, and is based on the impermeable area which includes buildings and concrete or asphalt driveways. Mine amounts to a bit over $60 (£45) quarterly for about 22% of my ~12000 ft² / 0.25 acre / 1100 m² property being impermeable. You can get discounts if you add significant water retention features.

We have a "combined sewer overflow" problem where a few times a year during heavy rain, an untreated combination of storm water and sewage goes into the major river that flows through town. The federal government (EPA) fines the city for each event. The tax is intended to fund fixing the system so that this doesn't happen any more, but I haven't seen much progress yet.

Don't get me started on water companies pumping sewage into our waterways!

The comments in the daily echo are worth reading if you like that sort of thing. They manage to get in a dig at cyclists without any prompting.