A London cyclist who gave police video footage that showed a moped rider kicking out at his bike as he passed him has been told that no action will be taken against the man in question because there were no independent witnesses to what happened.
The incident happened on the New Kent Road on the evening of 16 January as Chi Yong La rode home to Greenwich from his job in the West End with publisher Conde Nast.
Riding away from the kerb to avoid potholes, drain grilles and manhole covers, he exchanged words with a man on a moped who was undertaking him to his left.
As the man sped away, he aimed a kick at Chi's front wheel, leaving the cyclist struggling to maintain balance on the busy road.
"I was really shaken up," he told road.cc following the incident. "I was really holding on for dear life, making sure I didn't topple over."
Chi lodged a complaint with the police, and sent them a video of the incident - like many cyclists, he uses a helmet camera so that in the event of an incident involving a motor vehicle or pedestrian, he has something more than just his own word to fall back on.
The full video he sent to police can be seen here (contains some swearing).
The letter he received from the Traffic Criminal Justice section of the Metropolitan Policer Service's Operational Command Unit for the South East Region, reads:
I am writing concerning your complaint to police regarding the manner in which a motor vehicle bearing the registration mark GJ05FGF was ridden along New Kent Road @ 16:44 hours on the 16/01/2014.
I would advise you that it is the policy of the Metropolitan Police Service to investigate cases that have a realistic prospect of achieving a successful prosecution at court.
In view of the lack of independent witnesses to support your claim, we are unable to initiate proceedings on this occasion. However, the registered owner/keeper of the vehicle has been notified of your allegation and a record of the incident will be kept within this office.
Chi told us that the police response was "disappointing to say the least but I can't say I expect anything more."
One question the incident, and the police's reaction to it, does raise is just how seriously they take helmet camera footage, and why that should be seen as less acceptable than independent eyewitness testimony, which can be inaccurate depending on the person's recollection.
Another is that police regularly appeal to the public for help in catching suspects whose alleged crimes have been caught on CCTV, with no witnesses around, and where the footage is of much lower quality than that typically captured by helmet cameras.
In January 2012 we reported how motorist Scott Lomas was convicted of a public order offence after he threatened cyclist Martin Porter who was riding to work.
The Metropolitan Police only referred the matter to the Crown Prosecution Service after Porter had twice complained about their initial decision not to take action. despite his having provided them with helmet camera footage.
The fact that Porter is a Queen's Counsel, making him more suited than most to negotiating the criminal justice system, is likely to have been a factor in the case reaching its eventual conclusion.
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The leaked email a little while ago said all you need to know, " bump up the troops targets for a few weeks" or words to that effect. If you have that culture in an organisation nothing will get done that isn't this weeks issue.
"no independent witnesses"
But there was an independent witness, the guy on a bike who caught up and asked what happened. How would you go about finding him?
By the way the link to the full video isn't working but you can see a video in the original article:
http://bit.ly/1fTK0G5 (don't worry it's on road.cc).
Who do we write to, met, CPS or the local station, any details from the response?
Shocking, but given its the Met I can't say I am at all surprised. The victim should appeal the decision and complain and get some public pressure built up. I can't re-watch the video (too much traffic!) but I did watch it the first time it got published. From memory its clearly a kick at a cyclist on a busy road. This is not a heated exchange that was six of one half a dozen of another before both parties went their seperate ways, it could of ended horribly if the rider had become unsaddled.
Two offences spring to mind; Causing Danger to Road Users which fits the circumstances but is not an offence often considered (and should be) and dangerous riding. You've also got a threatening behaviour and had the rider become unsaddled and got injured (minor through to life-threatening) you'd also have a reckless assault.
So to start with there are three offences he could be interviewed over and this massively increases the possibilty that he could of been convicted of one or more.
This is not the CPS making a decision this time, this is the Police knocking it on the head because frankly they dont think its serious enough and are too busy. Thats the real deal.
There is video footage untainted by human perception and the victims testimony. Video recordings cant alway show the entire incident and sometimes what you think/believe is ocurring on the video is totally wrong, but this video looks simple and clear. That is enough to prosecute. Its disgusting. I am so glad I live nowhere near anywhere where it says Metropolitan. They haven't even interviewed the scumbag on the scooter to record his account. Pathetic. I hope the victim pursues it and gets the justice he deserves.
No matter the inadequacies of the CPS or police the fundamental problem remains the over-use of motorized vehicles and the alienated attitudes of their users. There's a classic Swedish road-safety story (scroll down after intro) which drivers should be made to read before they go out on the road. Car use is too normalized:
http://www.nybooks.com/blogs/nyrblog/2014/jan/31/to-kill-a-child/?insrc=...
"Afterward everything is too late. Afterward there is a blue car stopped sideways in the road, and a screaming woman takes her hand from her mouth, and it’s red with blood. Afterward a man opens a car door and tries to stand on his legs, even though he has a pit of horror within him. Afterward a few sugar cubes are strewn meaninglessly about in the blood and gravel, and a child lies motionless on its stomach, its face pressed heavily against the road. Afterward two pale people, who have not yet had their coffee, come running through a gate to see a sight in the road they will never forget. Because it’s not true that time heals all wounds. Time does not heal the wounds of a dead child, and it heals very poorly the pain of a mother who forgot to buy sugar and who sent her child across the road to borrow some. And it heals just as poorly the anguish of a once cheerful man who has killed a child."
over on Singletrackworld someone posted this link
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/motoring/motoring-news/smile-you...
from part way down the article:
"Paul Marshall, Suffolk's deputy chief constable, said: "Increasing use is being made by the public of digital cameras to record evidence of offences which can be used by the police to support prosecutions. This is welcomed by Association of Chief Police Officers as quite often the only evidence available is an eyewitness account which is disputed by the alleged offender."
so expect to see a lot of videos of cyclists riding two a breast and without helmets
I had just the same experience recently with video evidence - here's what Hertfordshire Police wrote to me on 15th October:
"Hello,
Thank you for your submission. Your email has been forwarded to our Process & Collisions department, who deal with this type of incident. I have asked them to reply to you direct.
Regards,
Herts Police"
Then on 17th January:
"I can confirm that this Unit took no action in relation to the allegation of Using a Mobile Phone whilst driving. This is because the driver of the vehicle was not stopped at the time by a Police Officer, was not reported and Cautioned by a Police Officer and the phone itself was not examined /checked by a Police Officer.
I note that you are to be contacted regarding the fact that the driver then wilfully drove at you causing fear and anxiety. When this has been done and the evidence considered a decision will be taken as to what action can be taken against the driver in relation to this incident."
I am still waiting for the phone call.
I suspect that the proliferation of cameras means that the Police don't have the resources to follow up on the evidence submitted to them. Furthermore the CPS pretty much can't be bothered to bring cases. Would not surprise me if many forces are disillusioned with them.
Is it really the case that the police will do nothing unless there is a chance of successful prosecution? At the least, could they not call the scooter riding pillock in for a bollocking and to let him know his appalling behaviour will be kept on record?
Well there's a surprise!
Can't help thinking that he may want to ditch the moped now though, as the reg plate is widely displayed on the interweb.
So just to be clear, I can aim a kick at a police officer and so long as there's no "independent" witnesses, even if it's been recorded on cctv, I won't face prosecution ?
In days gone by this kind of thing would have been dealt with by vigilantes. If the dwindling faith in the police service to bring justice to bear continues further we may see such practices return.
I would prefer that the police have the resources and will to act, though it seems this is only likely to happen when it is one of their own involved - there was no video evidence in this recent case: http://road.cc/107764
This is a ridiculous situation. Without a willingness to even to attempt a prosecution for such a blatant attack, the law is providing no deterrence.
It's a failure of its function to protect the public.
And how vigorous would the police have been had it been a pedestrian? A lot more I suspect. Sorry Met but your actions do little to dispel the motorists' accepted assumption that cyclists are second class citizens.
This is pathetic!
It seems to me, having viewed the video a couple of times, that the very least the police could charge the moped rider with is driving without due care, because he clearly deliberately undertakes the cyclist.
I think most reasonable people would consider his actions dangerous (i.e. dangerous driving) and a less charitable interpretation might, in view of the proximity of nearby vehicular traffic in the outside lane, even amount to attempted murder.
While I accept the latter might be a stretch for the police & CPS to take on, the 3points plus fine of the lesser charge might at least act as a wake-up call to the idiot.
Andy
Does that mean I can go kick a police officer and when that's filmed on shoulder cam expect to avoid prosecution?
Double standards as usual I expect.
It's not just cyclists that the police can't get their act together for
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-shocking-moment-a-man...
Has this been downloaded to youtube? A surprising amount have been and in some cases they have helped promote the case and final action taken (police/councils/government bodies) don't like too much bad publicity.
I have posted above on what I think should have happened (DD Charge ) and more realistically what could have been done by the Met without even breaking sweat. (Careless Driving FPN 3 points and £100) So I am all for going after the guy.
The difference though was that he kicked out toward the cyclist. Now up to the point that he actually connects it's not an RTC and it's not an assault. He may claim that he was making the gesture not trying to kick the wheel. They are different charges.
In the case of a cop with a camera the difference would be this. Kick towards a cop and it would be a public order offence, threatening behaviour. Actually kick the cop and it's assault.
Sentencing wise
Fear or threat of low level immediate unlawful violence
such as push, shove or spit = Low to medium level community order +Band B fine
so it's a threat therefore minimum of that lot.
Assaulting a police officer is a summary offence. The starting point is a custodial sentence 6 - 26 weeks.
When they say lack of independant witnesses... Did they make any attempt to contact the bloke who rode up and discussed it having seen the whole thing?
Sorry, but my faith in juries is as follows, why was the cyclist blocking the lane, what choice did the moped rider have but to go up the inside.
Hang on a mo my friend. I just read that. The police did arrest and the CPS did prosecute someone but they were acquitted. That's not the police's fault. They did their bit.
And of course to then kick out at him is completely justified as a method of trying to reposition the bike to its proper place... Although sadly i agree with your thoughts on jurys
Did they really? In addition to the event being filmed by another bus, all buses have cameras on board + witnesses
And they still couldn't present enough evidence to secure a conviction?
"just letting the cyclist know I was there, he was obviously unaware what with the dark and rain, and Boris was on the news a week back telling us that all cyclists use headphones, so I knew that using the horn wouldn't work...."
Hmmm.
So they had the video from the following bus. Tick
and they had the video from inside the bus that the chap was thrown out of. Tick
They presumably had the witness statement from the chap thrown out of the bus. Tick
And statements from any other witnesses. Tick
They passed these to the CPS. The CPS looked at them and thought they could get a conviction. The CPS brought the case to court. The court looked at the evidence. The defence put their side of it (whatever that was) the verdict was acquittal.
Possibilities:
The victim couldn't or wouldn't identify the perpetrator
The video in the bus didn't show anything.
The perpetrator was wearing a hoody or scarf and couldn't be seen on camera.
The person they arrested convinced the court that whoever it was on the bus it wasn't him.
One of the witnesses said something that undermined their credibility
or ......
So tell me again which bit the police got wrong?
It isnt the Police's job to present the evidence to the court, thats the job of the cps barrister / solicitor. Get your facts right before making accusations.
Of course the moped rider has a 'choice', and that choice is to follow the rules of the road, or not - and he chose not. He should wait behind until a clear and safe place to overtake. Same as any other road user. That is no excuse for undertaking.
My interpretation of mrmo's post is they were merely pointing out with jaded realism how a typical jury (most likely packed with bad drivers!) would likely interpret this. I think your reply might be missing their point.
I recall that in high-profile US trials we hear a lot about jury-vetting, where admitted racists might be excluded from trials with racial elements, etc. Personally I'd like to see trials involving dangerous/aggressive behaviour from motorists have juries that we can be sure aren't full of Top Gear watching petrolheads! If a cyclist is the victim, then at least some of the jury should be cyclists or at the very least non-drivers!
I'm pleased to see the justified outrage of so many commenters.
How to go forward?
One way MIGHT (I can't say any more than that) is, as Edgeley suggests, is to proceed through the civil courts.
Fingers crossed the mopedist now feels full of spunk and brave? So that he tries and under takes a left turning bus and loses both his legs, I don't wish him dead, just off the roads... Hmmm might be a bit harsh there, ok 1 leg.
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