A cyclist in Scotland who returned a soft drink cup to a man who had thrown it out of his car window got more than he bargained for when the driver got out and challenged him to a fight. But police told him they wouldn’t be charging the motorist with assault – because they considered the cyclist himself to be the instigator.
The incident, which has been reported on mainstream media outlets including Mail Online, was posted to YouTube by the cyclist under the user name LPDman.
The footage shows him picking up a discarded KFC Pepsi cup that he believed to have been thrown out of the window of a black Vauxhall Corsa car on Alclutha Avenue in Dumbarton, although he admits he didn’t actually see the driver drop it.
The bike rider turns round and chases after the driver, catching up with him on Crossler Road just after the four minute point in the video and asks him to wind down the window – admitting, in the caption, that his request was a “big mistake.”
Once the motorist winds the window down, the bike rider throws the cup into the car, with the words, “Here’s your stupid litter back.”
The driver gets out of his car and runs after the cyclist, saying to him, “Do you think your smart or something?” and asking him to get off his bike.
As the cyclist, who seems shaken, heads back in the direction he came from along the pavement, the driver reappears having turned his car around and asks him if he’d like to go to a nearby park “for a square go,” a request the bike rider declines with the words, “I’d rather not, mate.”
The motorist throws the cup back out of the car before turning around and speeding off, with the cyclist riding away saying to himself, “That was close!”
In the YouTube description to the video, he says: “Yes, go ahead and say I took a big risk on my physical life because I accept my life could have been taken but I personally feel this twit needs to learn a lesson in respecting the environment.
He later added: “Two police officers visited my house and said to me that although the man should not have came out of his car & attempted to assault me (resulting in a charge of Breach of the Peace), I was found to have been the instigator. In fact, throwing litter back to litter louts in revenge counts as COMMON ASSAULT.”
If that sounds harsh, it’s worth considering that under Scots case law, common assault “may be constituted by threatening gestures sufficient to produce alarm.”
While the driver getting out of the car and confronting the cyclist could clearly be construed in that way, lawyers might argue that chasing after a car for four minutes, then asking the motorist to wind the windscreen down before throwing an object at them could be, too.
What do you think? Was the cyclist right to go after the motorist and return the cup to him – or should he just have left well alone and perhaps just picked it up and deposited it in the nearest litter bin? Let us know in the comments below.
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Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.
No wonder the driver has the rage - look at the size of his lady chests! Perky or what! He might want to consider a wee bit of weight loss – perhaps he should take up cycling?
I avoid confrontation where possible, and the cyclist here should have, too, especially since he wasn't sure of his ground and nearly left himself without a fool proof exit strategy. And he could be the victim of a revenge attack if the driver sees and recognises him again.
I avoid confrontation where possible, and the cyclist here should have, too, especially since he wasn't sure of his ground and nearly left himself without a fool proof exit strategy. And he could be the victim of a revenge attack if the driver sees and recognises him again.
Too true, but the reaction of the police also is hard to understand. The bloke in the car committed not one, but two offences.
I avoid confrontation where possible, and the cyclist here should have, too, especially since he wasn't sure of his ground and nearly left himself without a fool proof exit strategy. And he could be the victim of a revenge attack if the driver sees and recognises him again.
Too true, but the reaction of the police also is hard to understand. The bloke in the car committed not one, but two offences.
Except that the cyclist didn't actually see the littering offence happen. So from a legal perspective an innocent motorist gets a cup thrown through his window by a cyclist and is duly annoyed.
Throwing the cup at the driver and then trying to run away was pretty pathetic. If the driver had turned out to be some frail old woman, I doubt our have-a-go-hero would have been quite so quick to post his video on YouTube.
And the most surprising thing about this is that the Daily Fail readers for once seem to be cheering on a "camera vigilante cyclist". They must really hate litter.
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Clearly wasn't a Diet Coke...........
I avoid confrontation where possible, and the cyclist here should have, too, especially since he wasn't sure of his ground and nearly left himself without a fool proof exit strategy. And he could be the victim of a revenge attack if the driver sees and recognises him again.
Too true, but the reaction of the police also is hard to understand. The bloke in the car committed not one, but two offences.
Except that the cyclist didn't actually see the littering offence happen. So from a legal perspective an innocent motorist gets a cup thrown through his window by a cyclist and is duly annoyed.
People who litter make me sick.
But having said that, throwing the cup through the window at him wasn't the most intelligent way to deal with it.
Throwing the cup at the driver and then trying to run away was pretty pathetic. If the driver had turned out to be some frail old woman, I doubt our have-a-go-hero would have been quite so quick to post his video on YouTube.
And the most surprising thing about this is that the Daily Fail readers for once seem to be cheering on a "camera vigilante cyclist". They must really hate litter.
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