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French railway calls for prosecutions of Paris-Roubaix crossing-dodgers (+video)

"Extremely serious and irresponsible action" says company...

Although race officials decided to take no action against the cyclists who rode through a closed level crossing in yesterday's Paris-Roubaix, French rail company SNCF says riders should be prosecuted for acting "against all safety rules".

The barriers at a crossing in Northern France came down as riders approached, but a large number went round or even under them. One rider from the Lotto team was even clipped by the barrier as it dropped.

Seconds later a TGV hurtled through the crossing.

SNCF is, unsurprisingly, not impressed.

"Millions of television viewers saw live this extremely serious and irresponsible action which could have been tragic," the rail company said in a statement.

"A few seconds later, a TGV ran on this line and could have hit the peloton.

"SNCF has decided to lodge a legal complaint and will leave it up to the investigation to determine who was responsible. We regret that such foolhardiness took place."

While the lead riders in the group might be able to claim they were too close to stop safely as the barriers, video of the incident clearly shows some riders ignoring a motorcycle policeman's instructions to wait.

Guy Dobbelaere, president of the race jury, said: "It wasn't possible for the leading riders to stop sufficiently safely.

"By neutralising the race for a few moments to not penalise those who stopped, we respected the spirit of the rule."

The rule in question reads "It shall be strictly forbidden to cross level crossings when the barrier is down.

"Apart from risking the penalty for such an offence as provided by law, offending riders shall be eliminated from the competition by the commissaires."

However, Dobbelaere said some of the riders could not be identified during the race.

"In theory, those who pass when the barrier is down are thrown out of the race.

"This time, that would have been unjust in respect of those riders who weren't identified."

Paris-Roubaix crosses railways multiple times, making the prospect of interactions with trains an ongoing headache for race organisers.

In 2006 the race's lead riders, Lief Hoste, Vladimir Gusev and Peter Van Petegem were disqualified for ducking under the barriers at a level crossing. The race was running ahead of schedule that year too, leading to what organisers called "an unpredictable accident de la course."

According to the Express there were 29 deaths at French level crossings in 2014. British level crossings have a rather better record, with 44 deaths over the last five years and just four in 2014.

French TGVs travel so fast that a driver may not even notice the train has hit someone. When a train hit a cyclist last year, the unfortunate rider's body was not found until it stopped at Mulhouse, close to the Swiss border, 40km away.

Network Rail's advice in its Level crossings for cyclists leaflet is:

• Consider dismounting – especially when you’re about to cross the tracks diagonally

• Follow signs and instructions

• Check both ways before crossing – if there is a train coming, don’t cross

• Remain stationary until all the warnings stop

• Check that your exit is clear before crossing

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Iamnot Wiggins | 9 years ago
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There was no way that train was travelling at 200mph!

And, the comments on that Daily Express article really do defy belief. I wonder if these people are as ignorant in other aspects of their lives?

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Stumps replied to Iamnot Wiggins | 9 years ago
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Iamnot Wiggins wrote:

There was no way that train was travelling at 200mph

Maybe so but it was still going more than quick enough to plaster them all the way to Paris.

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don simon fbpe | 9 years ago
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Seconds later a 200mph TGV hurtled through the crossing.

At 200mph? They were indeed lucky.

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oozaveared replied to don simon fbpe | 9 years ago
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don simon wrote:
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Seconds later a 200mph TGV hurtled through the crossing.

At 200mph? They were indeed lucky.

I refer you to the laws of physics. The train weighs anything from 50 tonnes to 100 tonnes. Anything over walking speed (ie the ability to not be impacted) is pretty academic.

22mph /10 m/s gives you an impact force of 50,000 x (10 x 10) over 2 so around about 2.5 million joules of impact.

200 mph? my calculator hasn't got enough digits. But put it like this, a range rover smacking you head on at 50mph is only 726,000.

rather academic really. Getting hit by a train at any speed is going to sting a bit.

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Must be Mad | 9 years ago
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I'm not sure it was *quite* as dangerous as some people are saying (I'm going to stick my neck out on the line and say I recon those crossing late were able to see the train and how much time they had)

HOWEVER - the rules really do need to be applied here. Once the pelaton was stopped, those finally few jumping across late really should be held accountable. If you are told to stop, you stop. There should be no 'interpretation' allowed.

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RageTurtle | 9 years ago
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The only thing more baffling than the behavior itself is the decision to be inconsistent with the enforcement of the rules.

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Trimmball | 9 years ago
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I feel like that train probably wasn't doing 200 mph...
They can do that but they slow down for level crossings

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Simon E | 9 years ago
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The UCI is not impressed:

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Following two extremely worrying incidents that occurred over the past week during the Vuelta Ciclista al Pais Vasco and Paris-Roubaix, the Union Cycliste Internationale (UCI) would like to reiterate that safety should at all times be the number one priority of all those involved in a cycling race.

The UCI is taking both incidents very seriously and has requested that a comprehensive report on each of them be submitted as soon as possible for review and potential action. It is everyone’s duty to make sure that our beautiful sport of cycling is not tarnished by incidents that appear to have been avoidable.

http://www.uci.ch/pressreleases/uci-statement-safety-races/

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Some Fella | 9 years ago
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This crossing should have been marshalled well in advance instead of one poor Gendarme on a motorbike (badly positioned) trying to hold back a peleton.
The race organisers got this wrong. Not excusing the actions of the riders though. Dicks.

I dont know about setting a bad example to kids - there is enough bad behaviour from born again MAMILS out on their stupid sportives as it is and now they will be all be jumping level crossings so they can maintain their STRAVA bragging rights in the office on Monday morning and 'because the pros do it'.

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Not the Stig replied to Some Fella | 9 years ago
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Not the Stig replied to Some Fella | 9 years ago
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Some Fella wrote:

This crossing should have been marshalled well in advance instead of one poor Gendarme on a motorbike (badly positioned) trying to hold back a peleton.
The race organisers got this wrong. Not excusing the actions of the riders though. Dicks.

I dont know about setting a bad example to kids - there is enough bad behaviour from born again MAMILS out on their stupid sportives as it is and now they will be all be jumping level crossings so they can maintain their STRAVA bragging rights in the office on Monday morning and 'because the pros do it'.

Agree re the marshals. Enough prior notice would give the riders time to stop if required. There must also be some sort of riders briefing.
Also agree that there are bad apples in every group (MAMILS) but I am interested to know what makes sportives stupid?

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MrZ replied to Some Fella | 9 years ago
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Some Fella wrote:

This crossing should have been marshalled well in advance instead of one poor Gendarme on a motorbike (badly positioned) trying to hold back a peleton.
The race organisers got this wrong. Not excusing the actions of the riders though. Dicks.

I dont know about setting a bad example to kids - there is enough bad behaviour from born again MAMILS out on their stupid sportives as it is and now they will be all be jumping level crossings so they can maintain their STRAVA bragging rights in the office on Monday morning and 'because the pros do it'.

indeed - no-one to blame but the organisers

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djcritchley | 9 years ago
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I do not condone those who decided to risk their lives in this way but I do acknowledge that trying to come to a halt at the head of a peloton also carries its own risks.

Surely it was the responsibility of the commissaires to be aware of the train schedule and neutralize the race if there was a risk of arriving there at the same time as the train.

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Arceye | 9 years ago
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Prosecute every individual rider who passed the barrier after it was down.
This idiotic, selfish, and careless behaviour has just handed out more bullets for drivers to fire when they argue against cyclists getting better safety considerations and better cycleways.

Well done Pro's, wreck it, for those of us who pay for everything you do.

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surly_by_name replied to Arceye | 9 years ago
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Arceye wrote:

Prosecute every individual rider who passed the barrier after it was down.
This idiotic, selfish, and careless behaviour has just handed out more bullets for drivers to fire when they argue against cyclists getting better safety considerations and better cycleways.

Well done Pro's, wreck it, for those of us who pay for everything you do.

Wow. Our own little bit of Daily Heil readership. This is one of the most stupid posts I have ever read on Road.cc.

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rggfddne | 9 years ago
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madindehead | 9 years ago
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The first pack going through at high speed is fine. If they try and stop, they will cause a collision on the tracks. However, once the barriers are down, those who crossed should be punished. They should have been disqualified to be honest.

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GingerWorkshop | 9 years ago
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ps. Full width road barriers would stop this... an ongoing issue with the Race NoOnes Resolved!

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Canyon48 | 9 years ago
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In Britain, we usually have two barriers, one for either side of the road...

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GingerWorkshop | 9 years ago
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One solution is on Race Day TGV changes the barrier timing's to come down twice as early! if the race is early it'll still be caught?!
with Road radios teams are responsible to communicate to riders to stop at the upcoming crossing once TGV communicates the barrier closure! Communication is Key!

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bikebot | 9 years ago
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By the fact that it's a half barrier, I'm sure that isn't a 200mph section of the TGV network. The trains don't run exclusively on high speed track.

Disappointed to not find this on the Daily Fail, the comments section would have hit at least a 9 on the frothing-at-the-mouth scale.

Update: The comments on the express website however are quite superb! I think my favourite is this contribution from a Mr J Arthur Turdly

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They need to have a national *SLAP A CYCLIST DAY* in the u.k...that may sort the problem out.

In fact after reading their comments thread, I think it would be fair to describe the average Express reader as a slapper.

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fancynancy replied to bikebot | 9 years ago
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Hi Bikebot, it was in the DM yesterday. As you predicted, the comments were amusing, but worrying  35

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bikebot replied to fancynancy | 9 years ago
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Hi Bikebot, it was in the DM yesterday. As you predicted, the comments were amusing, but worrying  35

Thanks, found it, it's rather good!

Some people watch Jeremy Kyle, I read the Daily Mail. I find angry dim neurotic middle class people funny.

Favourite exchange so far -

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Q: So how many of the offenders have been disqualified?
A: As many as Tory Bankers have GONE TO PRISON!

It's just so completely off topic I found it hilarious. Comparing a road race to banking fraud is about as random as comparing a road race to the average bike commuter. Which of course is what every other comment on the site is doing...

For anyone else who is interested - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3035826/Watch-cyclists-narrowly-...

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vonhelmet replied to fancynancy | 9 years ago
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fancynancy wrote:

Hi Bikebot, it was in the DM yesterday. As you predicted, the comments were amusing, but worrying  35

Daily Mail comments are a window into another world. Can you imagine being that angry all the time? It must be exhausting.

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DrJDog | 9 years ago
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My guess is that Degenkolb is one of the riders who went through and they don't want to throw him out. I will watch it again to see if it's possible to tell..

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birzzles | 9 years ago
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crossing level crossings with barriers down does seem to result is people enjoying a premature arrival at their destination. Presumably these people thought they'd spot the train coming. Are you sure you wouldnt make the same mistake?

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bobby_brains | 9 years ago
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Hardly gives a good impression of cyclists to;

- drivers who already hate us for running reds
- kids who look up to some of these pro's
- the average person looking to get into cycling

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Mombee | 9 years ago
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Regardless of whether or not the train could have been stopped, as it was it wasn't… so what the riders did was insane. Tottering across an empty road can be hard enough in road shoes (with your legs in cycle-mode), let alone trying to sprint across an uneven railway track in front of an encroaching train. I would have hoped in fact that the peloton would have recognised the issue (and potential risks) and not allowed anyone or any team to take advantage of the delay to make a break.

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willvousden | 9 years ago
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So, so stupid. It doesn't bear thinking about what would've happened if any of them came down on the tracks as they tried to get around the barriers – there's no way the train would've been able to stop in time.

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rasalati | 9 years ago
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The first few through I could forgive, given the pace of the pack behind them.

Once the barriers are well down and you can see the speed of the riders crossing is slowed considerably, it's just a stupid adrenaline decision.

I'd be on the side of SNCF with this. Some form of punishment is required to discourage it in the future.

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