Video: woman caught eating a bowl of cereal while driving

Joeinpoole wrote:

PaulBox wrote:

HarrogateSpa wrote:

I'm not sure about this use of the camera. I can see why you'd use one to defend your position if you're cut up or knocked off or abused. When you extend it to actively going after other road users doing stupid things which don't specifically affect you, I don't know if it's a good idea.

Yeah, fuck it, let's wait until she hits a kid or a cyclist...

Unfortunately there's the danger that (Daily Mail reading) motorists will hate us even more if they think that cyclists have all become self-appointed vigilantes out to 'get' them by spying with their little cameras.

I couldn't give a shit what those mindless idiots think, the action of this cyclist could have saved a child's life by stopping this woman from doing the same thing this morning. That has got to be more important than anything.

Interestingly, the Evening Standard had a full page still of her taken from the footage on the front of yesterday's paper, isn't the Standard owned by the Mail?

Personally I own a camera, but I only use it for filming mountain biking (and diving). I'm naturally quite a confrontational person and am worried that I could become more so if I commute with a camera strapped to my head. It could have the opposite effect and make me be better behaved, but so far I haven't risked it...

Anybody got any experience of it making any difference to them?

PaulBox wrote:

I couldn't give a shit what those mindless idiots think, the action of this cyclist could have saved a child's life by stopping this woman from doing the same thing this morning. That has got to be more important than anything.

Interestingly, the Evening Standard had a full page still of her taken from the footage on the front of yesterday's paper, isn't the Standard owned by the Mail?

Personally I own a camera, but I only use it for filming mountain biking (and diving). I'm naturally quite a confrontational person and am worried that I could become more so if I commute with a camera strapped to my head. It could have the opposite effect and make me be better behaved, but so far I haven't risked it...

Anybody got any experience of it making any difference to them?

The Standard has the same owner as the Indy, Alex Lebedev. Daily Mail is owned by Lord Rothermere.

I use cameras, doesn't make any difference to me and I don't think it does to most people, they're just there. I very, very rarely confront bad drivers, I don't see the point. Occasionally shouting "STOP" very loudly, is about the extent of my conversation.

The very visible Fly6 on the back does seem to make a difference to some drivers.

"I couldn't give a shit what those mindless idiots think, the action of this cyclist could have saved a child's life by stopping this woman from doing the same thing this morning. That has got to be more important than anything."

100% who cares how...

I think helmet cams should be worn by pedestrians too

This morning after dropping my twin 4 year old boys off at a not so local pre-school (my local school doesn’t have a pre-school so until Sep we drive them in).. Anyway I try to park a distance away and walk them in as its chaos right outside the school.

So I have dropped them off and I am now walking back to the car. I cross the street and a Honda Civic comes around the corner a little bit fast so I break into a run and I sort of mutter something under my breath and shake my head (I dont even look at him or get eye contact), I continue one my way back to the car not thinking about it a moment longer. Just one of those things that happens every day..

A few minutes later the same Civic pulls up alongside me and a 35'ish Scouser hangs out the window and starts having a go at me. I stop to discuss - he says 'I always drive slow around here' and I wasnt in any danger, I say he was driving a little too fast considering there are at least two pre/infants/junior schools about here. He says I am wrong, I say ‘I feel you were driving too fast’, backward a forward for a few seconds and then he says he will park up to 'discuss futher', I am guessing we would meet outside the school gates at home time... What do you think? Shall we get a gang together to meet him?

FerrisBFW wrote:

A few minutes later the same Civic pulls up alongside me and a 35'ish Scouser hangs out the window and starts having a go at me. I stop to discuss - he says 'I always drive slow around here' and I wasnt in any danger, I say he was driving a little too fast considering there are at least two pre/infants/junior schools about here. He says I am wrong, I say ‘I feel you were driving too fast’, backward a forward for a few seconds and then he says he will park up to 'discuss futher', I am guessing we would meet outside the school gates at home time... What do you think? Shall we get a gang together to meet him?

Sure. You do the confrontational bit and I'll bring the camera. If it goes viral, split the earnings?

Oh, just out of curiosity, the Civic... not a Type-R by any chance?

HarrogateSpa wrote:

I'm not sure about this use of the camera. I can see why you'd use one to defend your position if you're cut up or knocked off or abused. When you extend it to actively going after other road users doing stupid things which don't specifically affect you, I don't know if it's a good idea.

I think it's great use of a head cam. The police should use exactly the same, patrol on bikes, they would catch many offenders for various traffic offences including drivers doing punishment passes. Then all drivers would be very wary of vulnerable road users

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I think it's great use of a head cam. The police should use exactly the same, patrol on bikes, they would catch many offenders for various traffic offences including drivers doing punishment passes. Then all drivers would be very wary of vulnerable road users

I agree that the police should do much more on this, on foot or on bikes, checking for people driving while distracted by mobile phones etc. It's a point I've made before on this site.

I still think there's a difference between the police doing it, and private individuals with head cams doing it, and it's an issue worth thinking about at least. I ought to be able to raise the issue in a thoughtful way, without being shouted down (I'm not talking about CXR94DRi2, but other posters). By all means disagree with me, but try to remain civil.

@HarrogateSpa

Not sure I see the problem with individuals with head cams on. I can't see any reason at all why the video in question can't be used as evidence of careless driving. Short of an extremely talented CGI artist and a sizeable budget I see no reason to doubt it's authenticity.

The use of head cams will continue to proliferate and, as another poster mentions above, hopefully become a major tool in combating the lazy, selfish, unsafe driving that a sizeable minority seem to think is acceptable. The police clearly do not have resources to enforce traffic laws so gathering of evidence by road users is surely a good thing.

HarrogateSpa wrote:

I'm not sure about this use of the camera. I can see why you'd use one to defend your position if you're cut up or knocked off or abused. When you extend it to actively going after other road users doing stupid things which don't specifically affect you, I don't know if it's a good idea.

Did you bother to read your comment back to yourself? No doubt you know this woman or you must be related to her. What a nonsensical thing to write! A driver of a large 4x4 actively eating a bowl of cereal whilst 'in control' of a vehicle? How does this NOT affect other road users when she clearly cannot control the vehicle or concentrate on actually driving the thing and/or be completely aware of what is going on around her?

HarrogateSpa wrote:

I'm not sure about this use of the camera...

I got a close pass from a driver on The Highway, London (A1203) and when I caught up at the traffic lights I saw why. Burger in one hand, chips on the lap and a drink in the cup holder. He was oblivious to me peering into his window, just as he was oblivious to me when he passed me. I had to bang on the window to get his attention and got a one finger salute for my efforts. I wished I had a camera then.

When you are distracted, the first thing to go is peripheral vision and cyclists are put at risk. I for one am glad he had a camera to record the incident.
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