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Another video on Facebook shows cyclist being pushed off bike

Not the first such incident we've seen this year, as user posting footage issues "new challenge"...

A video that showed a car passenger leaning out of the vehicle’s window to push a cyclist off his bike has been viewed almost 700,000 times and receiving thousands of ‘likes’ and shares.

The footage was posted on Saturday evening by Facebook user Eoin Maughan, who denied in subsequent post that he was the person doing the pushing, although he may well be the one filming. The video opens with the words, “Right boys, this is the new challenge here.”

As of Monday afternoon, it was not possible to access the video, although it is unclear whether Facebook or the user removed it, or whether it was made private.

It is unclear where it was shot, although the poster appears to be based in the Republic of Ireland, as are many of those commenting on the video, some of whom said they would try something similar themselves – although many others condemned the footage.

This is the new challenge boys

Posted by Eoin Maughan on Saturday, 25 July 2015

It is similar to an incident we reported on in March, prompting concerns that people would mimic that and similar assaults on cyclists and the post footage to social media.

On that occasion, the footage was removed from Facebook by the original poster, although the social network had responded to earlier complaints by refusing to take the post down, saying it was not in breach of its community guidelines.

Cycling Ireland CEO Geoff Liffey, quoted on Independent.ie, said of the latest incident: "There has also been attempts to disrupt cycling events and regular cycling paths by introducing serious hazards on these routes.

"Many of these attacks are of a very serious nature and we would advise any persons who experience or witnesses these attacks to report them to the relevant authorities in the area.

"This incident was a disturbing, cowardly and deliberate attack on a vulnerable cyclist. This kind of behaviour is nothing new, but it's becoming more prevalent," he added.

The newspaper said that the Gardai are appealing for any cyclist involved in such an incident to report the matter.

Simon joined road.cc as news editor in 2009 and is now the site’s community editor, acting as a link between the team producing the content and our readers. A law and languages graduate, published translator and former retail analyst, he has reported on issues as diverse as cycling-related court cases, anti-doping investigations, the latest developments in the bike industry and the sport’s biggest races. Now back in London full-time after 15 years living in Oxford and Cambridge, he loves cycling along the Thames but misses having his former riding buddy, Elodie the miniature schnauzer, in the basket in front of him.

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Toro Toro replied to oldstrath | 9 years ago
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oldstrath wrote:

So in summary you can't assume that someone who goes around pushing people off bicycles is intending to hurt them, because pushing people off bikes is evidence of a high level of stupidity.

You can't assume that they intended to kill or severely injure them, and give them the appropriate punishment for attempting to kill or severely injure them, if it's plausible - and you can't otherwise prove - that they were not aware their conduct was liable to lead to death or severe injury.

I'd ask what's so hard to understand about that, but you clearly have difficulty understanding what's racist about obviously racist generalisations, so perhaps the point is moot.

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oldstrath replied to Toro Toro | 9 years ago
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Toro Toro wrote:
oldstrath wrote:

So in summary you can't assume that someone who goes around pushing people off bicycles is intending to hurt them, because pushing people off bikes is evidence of a high level of stupidity.

You can't assume that they intended to kill or severely injure them, and give them the appropriate punishment for attempting to kill or severely injure them, if it's plausible - and you can't otherwise prove - that they were not aware their conduct was liable to lead to death or severe injury.

I'd ask what's so hard to understand about that, but you clearly have difficulty understanding what's racist about obviously racist generalisations, so perhaps the point is moot.

What's hard about it is trying to imagine how someone can fail to be aware that pushing someone from a moving bike is likely to hurt them. Sounds like an implausible attempt to excuse a violent thug to me.

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KirinChris replied to Toro Toro | 9 years ago
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Toro Toro wrote:
oldstrath wrote:

So in summary you can't assume that someone who goes around pushing people off bicycles is intending to hurt them, because pushing people off bikes is evidence of a high level of stupidity.

You can't assume that they intended to kill or severely injure them, and give them the appropriate punishment for attempting to kill or severely injure them, if it's plausible - and you can't otherwise prove - that they were not aware their conduct was liable to lead to death or severe injury.

I'd ask what's so hard to understand about that, but you clearly have difficulty understanding what's racist about obviously racist generalisations, so perhaps the point is moot.

No, this is why the law has a test of reasonability.

The question is whether a reasonable person could have foreseen that the conduct was liable to lead to death or serious injury. And I think it highly unlikely that pushing someone off a moving bicycle could be found to not to have that risk in the mind of a reasonable person.

Otherwise intelligent people would be subject to a higher standard of conduct than stupid people, to put it bluntly. Reasonable people don't push other people off bikes.

Also, the word 'moot' doesn't mean what it appears you think it means.

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Feltqx95 | 9 years ago
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welcome to the wonderful world of the Irish Traveller, or knacker as they are more widely known. A law onto themselves...and they wonder why they get such a bad name..... Report it to the police and they will do nothing, they're afraid of them.

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Simmo72 | 9 years ago
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Screw facebook, their attitude is appalling.

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oldstrath | 9 years ago
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In defence of Mr Maughan, who is clearly not the sharpest original thinker on the planet, as long as people such as Dom Joly are allowed to post their hatred and threats of violence without legal challenge, lowlifes such as this will be encouraged to follow in their tracks.

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don simon fbpe | 9 years ago
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Thank you for taking the time to report something that you feel may violate our Community Standards. Reports like yours are an important part of making Facebook a safe and welcoming environment. We reviewed the video you reported for containing graphic violence and found it doesn't violate our Community Standards.

I've asked Facebook to let me know what levels of violence they consider acceptable/unacceptable. I won't be holding my breath.

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oldstrath replied to don simon fbpe | 9 years ago
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Thank you for taking the time to report something that you feel may violate our Community Standards. Reports like yours are an important part of making Facebook a safe and welcoming environment. We reviewed the video you reported for containing graphic violence and found it doesn't violate our Community Standards.

I've asked Facebook to let me know what levels of violence they consider acceptable/unacceptable. I won't be holding my breath.

Be interesting to know if a video of taking an angle grinder to somebody's car would be acceptable, or is it only violence against people these bastards condone?

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bikebot replied to don simon fbpe | 9 years ago
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don simon wrote:

I've asked Facebook to let me know what levels of violence they consider acceptable/unacceptable. I won't be holding my breath.

You know Facebook host videos of beheadings?

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brooksby replied to bikebot | 9 years ago
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You know Facebook host videos of beheadings?

Seriously? I mean, really - seriously???

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johndonnelly | 9 years ago
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Unless the cyclist come forward I doubt the police will do anything ... and even then I doubt they'd do much.

Would be good to see the occupants of the car (I'm guessing at least 3: driver, cameraman, shover) being chased by police for encouraging an offence for every single follow up crime to this.

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notfastenough | 9 years ago
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Jesus wept.

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festival | 9 years ago
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Pikey scum !

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Toro Toro replied to festival | 9 years ago
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Pikey scum !

Feltqx95 wrote:

welcome to the wonderful world of the Irish Traveller, or knacker as they are more widely known. A law onto themselves...and they wonder why they get such a bad name..... Report it to the police and they will do nothing, they're afraid of them.

More of the same.

Does Road.cc have a moderation policy regarding racist slurs?

Eoin Maughan is clearly a vile little shit, and the Garda Síochána should clearly have him in the cells by day's end. But whether or not he's a traveller has nothing to do with that.

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oldstrath replied to Toro Toro | 9 years ago
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Toro Toro wrote:
festival wrote:

Pikey scum !

Feltqx95 wrote:

welcome to the wonderful world of the Irish Traveller, or knacker as they are more widely known. A law onto themselves...and they wonder why they get such a bad name..... Report it to the police and they will do nothing, they're afraid of them.

More of the same.

Does Road.cc have a moderation policy regarding racist slurs?

Eoin Maughan is clearly a vile little shit, and the Garda Síochána should clearly have him in the cells by day's end. But whether or not he's a traveller has nothing to do with that.

Have you seen the way many 'travellers' behave? At some point it becomes difficult to conclude that the unpleasant antics displayed by every one of them one encounters are anything other than a group characteristic.

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Toro Toro replied to oldstrath | 9 years ago
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Have you seen the way many 'travellers' behave? At some point it becomes difficult to conclude that the unpleasant antics displayed by every one of them one encounters are anything other than a group characteristic.

No, that's stupid and offensive claptrap.

And if you don't think so, substitute "black people" for "travellers" and the n-word for "pikeys", read the thread back, and see how comfortable you feel with your racist generalisation.

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Ush replied to Toro Toro | 9 years ago
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Toro Toro wrote:
oldstrath wrote:

Have you seen the way many 'travellers' behave? At some point it becomes difficult to conclude that the unpleasant antics displayed by every one of them one encounters are anything other than a group characteristic.

No, that's stupid and offensive claptrap.

And if you don't think so, substitute "black people" for "travellers" and the n-word for "pikeys", read the thread back, and see how comfortable you feel with your racist generalisation.

I wonder would someone that likes pushing people off bicycles be also un/likely to pretend that they were $insert-hated-minority-here?

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cqexbesd replied to oldstrath | 9 years ago
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oldstrath wrote:

Have you seen the way many 'travellers' behave? At some point it becomes difficult to conclude that the unpleasant antics displayed by every one of them one encounters are anything other than a group characteristic.

I use the same argument to assume all internet commentors are racist.

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farrell | 9 years ago
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Ninja rocks.

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Morat | 9 years ago
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Keep reporting it, maybe Facebook will reach some dim form of understanding. Eventually.

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oldstrath replied to Morat | 9 years ago
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Keep reporting it, maybe Facebook will reach some dim form of understanding. Eventually.

Doubt it. they've clearly decided violent scum is their core market.

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lessismore | 9 years ago
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don simon fbpe replied to lessismore | 9 years ago
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Travellers http://ask.fm/EoinMaughan

Excuse me for asking, but what is that?

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lessismore replied to don simon fbpe | 9 years ago
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A page where you can ask Eoin Maughan a question

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lessismore replied to don simon fbpe | 9 years ago
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don simon wrote:
lessismore wrote:

Travellers http://ask.fm/EoinMaughan

Excuse me for asking, but what is that?

A page where you can ask Eoin Maughan a question

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don simon fbpe replied to lessismore | 9 years ago
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don simon wrote:
lessismore wrote:

Travellers http://ask.fm/EoinMaughan

Excuse me for asking, but what is that?

A page where you can ask Eoin Maughan a question

Quote:

Text me back on Facebook you lil fuckface
i did  3

Ho for Nicole:-)
shes sound went out t her b4 she was vry quiet ha gudlukin too  3

Loveyou xxxxx
luffyeh2 xoxox

Ho for olivia
wich one ?

u gt sum ass babe
ino ur ntb urself

And the question are where? In fact, where are the f***ing words?

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brooksby replied to don simon fbpe | 9 years ago
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don simon wrote:
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Text me back on Facebook you lil fuckface
i did  3

Ho for Nicole:-)
shes sound went out t her b4 she was vry quiet ha gudlukin too  3

Loveyou xxxxx
luffyeh2 xoxox

Ho for olivia
wich one ?

u gt sum ass babe
ino ur ntb urself

I suspect I'm just showing my age, but what language is that? Can anyone translate it into English?  29

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Toro Toro replied to lessismore | 9 years ago
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lessismore wrote:

Travellers http://ask.fm/EoinMaughan

What has that to do with anything at all?

Racist idiot.

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mrchrispy | 9 years ago
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if you want the police to investigate then you'll have to report it.

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Airzound | 9 years ago
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Time to use your D-locks! If they or any other fucker even attempted this on me they would get it on their head or a big dent in every panel of their car.

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