Video: Overtaking cyclist almost sends another rider under a lorry

STiG911 wrote:

ChrisB200SX wrote:

Both parties were very lucky. This is why the infrastructure just isn't fit for purpose, it's really not wide enough for overtaking and the magic white means motorised vehicles are only inches away. Also, cyclists need to give room when they overtake, just as we tend to tell drivers they need to give us room when they overtake.

 

How is this remotely anything to do with the infrastructure?! If there's not enough room to pass you don't pass - wait until you can!

The same can be said of cars on any narrow road anywhere - but there's usually some tosser who'll try it on like this cockwomble did.

it IS everything to do with the infrastructure... it's rubbish...

STiG911 wrote:

How is this remotely anything to do with the infrastructure?! If there's not enough room to pass you don't pass - wait until you can!

Because if someone is a twat overtaking you in a protected bike lane you're less likely to go under a lorry if it goes wrong.

Assume people won't behave properly, and make the environment forgiving of it. That's what infrastructure is for.

HKCambridge wrote:

STiG911 wrote:

How is this remotely anything to do with the infrastructure?! If there's not enough room to pass you don't pass - wait until you can!

 

Because if someone is a twat overtaking you in a protected bike lane you're less likely to go under a lorry if it goes wrong.

 

Assume people won't behave properly, and make the environment forgiving of it. That's what infrastructure is for.

Yep, safety by design rather than education. That's the way lots of the rest of the transport network works.

HKCambridge wrote:

STiG911 wrote:

How is this remotely anything to do with the infrastructure?! If there's not enough room to pass you don't pass - wait until you can!

 

Because if someone is a twat overtaking you in a protected bike lane you're less likely to go under a lorry if it goes wrong.

 

Assume people won't behave properly, and make the environment forgiving of it. That's what infrastructure is for.

That reinforces my point - a protected bike lane has more space!

STiG911 wrote:

HKCambridge wrote:

STiG911 wrote:

How is this remotely anything to do with the infrastructure?! If there's not enough room to pass you don't pass - wait until you can!

 

Because if someone is a twat overtaking you in a protected bike lane you're less likely to go under a lorry if it goes wrong.

 

Assume people won't behave properly, and make the environment forgiving of it. That's what infrastructure is for.

 

That reinforces my point - a protected bike lane has more space!

If it's a good one, which isn't necessarily the case!

But there can still be too little space to pass in a protected lane if it's busy. A protected bike lane isn't going to eliminate idiot passes by other people on bikes. It will reduce the consequences of them.

wycombewheeler wrote:

Overtake must move completely out of cyclepath to pass only after checking it is clear, not try to plough through an occupied lane.

Shocking stuff. Looking at it it's hard to see how he expected to get past. I'm genuinely interested to know does he do all his overtaking like that? Does he think that he is not allowed to move out of the cyclelane? I hope he looks at the video and realizes that all the other people passing are capable of shoulder-checking and moving out into the outer lane.

So glad this wasn't a tragedy. Guy in the orange must have been quite shaken up by that.