Pro tour team Astana have threatened legal action while quashing claims that footage of Italian cyclist Vincenzo Nibali's stage 19 Tour de France crash suggested the rider was motor doping.
The incident, which took place on a wet descent as Nibali and race leader Chris Froome were chasing down a pack of GC contenders, was caught on camera by a race helicopter.
Footage shows Nibali's wheel spinning after the crash, which is where the motor doping claims have come from.
Astana were quick to issue a press release in which they emphasised their right to take legal action "in case someone will to threaten the image of the Team or of the athlete." The team were also quick to highlight their compliance with race officials, as well as the multiple instances in which their riders were subject to UCI motor doping checks.
"In relation with the suspects about the Vincenzo Nibali's rear wheel rotation during his fall in today's stage at Tour de France, the Astana Pro Team informs that during the three weeks of race we have been subjected to the UCI checks daily, always resulting perfectly in order.
"The Astana Pro Team and Vincenzo Nibali reserve the right to take legal action in case someone will to threaten the image of the Team or of the athlete."
The UCI have been using thermal imaging devices, among other unprecedented measures, at the year's Tour de France to combat the risk of riders using illegal motors to boost performance.
Top riders at this year's race have been subject to motor checks, which have apparently been made on four separate occasions; with UCI commissaires checking Chris Froome's bike for a motor after yesterday's stage.
Froome told Cycling News, though, that he was "happy they're doing the checks."
“Yes my bike was checked," the two-time Tour de France winner said. "But I’m happy they’re doing the checks. They’re probably needed considering all the rumours out there.
“I think most of the suspicion is on social media but they don’t come from nowhere, the technology exists.”
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Please... This is the same old ignorant B.S. as prior times that a wheel kept spinning after a crash. There is NOTHING to it. See here, where I demonstrated with my own pro-class bike that it is quite normal for a wheel to keep spinning, simply because of inertia / momentum. And on a high-end bike the forces of friction are so low, the wheel can spin a very long time on its own.
Pro Cycling Demonstration: Spin-down of High-end Wheel/Hub:Group Set https://youtu.be/cEVsoULD5Xc
It seems to be road.cc policy to included an image with every article, whether or not any actual relevant image is available. Perhaps a symptom of a website set up that isn't as flexible as it could be. Even so, a picture of Nibali might be better.
I'd have thought putting a headline picture that has nothing to do with Nibali's bike is the sort of thing they'd be looking at taking legal action about..
*I'm talking about the thermal one, not the taxi ride above
I'd have thought putting a headline picture that has nothing to do with Nibali's bike is the sort of thing they'd be looking at taking legal action about..
*I'm talking about the thermal one, not the taxi ride above
Agreed. The lead thermal image is deceptive & irresponsible journalism.
The spinning wheel is clearly not evidence of any kind of motor. If it's not touching the ground etc then of course it will spin for a while after a high speed crash.
However, this bit did make me laugh:
"The Astana Pro Team and Vincenzo Nibali reserve the right to take legal action in case someone will to threaten the image of the Team or of the athlete."
Boys, I don't think you need help from anyone else when it comes to sullying your image!
Wheels spin. It's kind of the point of them right? If the rear wheel isn't touching the ground it will just keep going. Also why on earth would anyone be using a motor on a descent? Whoever saw that footage and thought - "yep definitely a motor" really needs to think a little harder
This is not the first wheel spin we've seen after a crash in recent years. Love to see this analysed properly and see if there's any credibility to it at all. No clue how a rear wheel should spin after a crash myself, but I'm guessing it should keep spinning as it'd be unrealistic for a wheel to go from 120RPM to 0 right away. The only resistance in this sort of crash is the drivetrain..
This is not the first wheel spin we've seen after a crash in recent years. Love to see this analysed properly and see if there's any credibility to it at all. No clue how a rear wheel should spin after a crash myself, but I'm guessing it should keep spinning as it'd be unrealistic for a wheel to go from 120RPM to 0 right away. The only resistance in this sort of crash is the drivetrain..
The only resistance is not the entire drivetrain but the ratchets on the freehub. The inertia of the wheel is not going to completely stop and I know when my bike is on the stand and I spin up the rear wheel it can take a long time to come to a stop.
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And then it starts to act like a gyroscope which means you can ride along at an angle without falling off.
I think that's how it works.
Ffs.
Please... This is the same old ignorant B.S. as prior times that a wheel kept spinning after a crash. There is NOTHING to it. See here, where I demonstrated with my own pro-class bike that it is quite normal for a wheel to keep spinning, simply because of inertia / momentum. And on a high-end bike the forces of friction are so low, the wheel can spin a very long time on its own.
Pro Cycling Demonstration: Spin-down of High-end Wheel/Hub:Group Set
https://youtu.be/cEVsoULD5Xc
It seems to be road.cc policy to included an image with every article, whether or not any actual relevant image is available. Perhaps a symptom of a website set up that isn't as flexible as it could be. Even so, a picture of Nibali might be better.
Something in motion has conserved its motion.... There ought to be some sort of law against that...
oh
Surely a motor spins the cranks, not the wheel?
Careful now, you might let common sense get in the way of their click-bait.
Oh man, I'd forgotten that tow, that was hilarious.
I'd have thought putting a headline picture that has nothing to do with Nibali's bike is the sort of thing they'd be looking at taking legal action about..
*I'm talking about the thermal one, not the taxi ride above
Agreed. The lead thermal image is deceptive & irresponsible journalism.
The spinning wheel is clearly not evidence of any kind of motor. If it's not touching the ground etc then of course it will spin for a while after a high speed crash.
However, this bit did make me laugh:
"The Astana Pro Team and Vincenzo Nibali reserve the right to take legal action in case someone will to threaten the image of the Team or of the athlete."
Boys, I don't think you need help from anyone else when it comes to sullying your image!
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/astanas-uneasy-ride-prof...
And of course not forgetting this:
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Surely the point of using a motor woule be to win, and not get dropped by the holier than thou Sky train !
why would you use a motor on the descent?
Wheels spin. It's kind of the point of them right? If the rear wheel isn't touching the ground it will just keep going. Also why on earth would anyone be using a motor on a descent? Whoever saw that footage and thought - "yep definitely a motor" really needs to think a little harder
This is not the first wheel spin we've seen after a crash in recent years. Love to see this analysed properly and see if there's any credibility to it at all. No clue how a rear wheel should spin after a crash myself, but I'm guessing it should keep spinning as it'd be unrealistic for a wheel to go from 120RPM to 0 right away. The only resistance in this sort of crash is the drivetrain..
The only resistance is not the entire drivetrain but the ratchets on the freehub. The inertia of the wheel is not going to completely stop and I know when my bike is on the stand and I spin up the rear wheel it can take a long time to come to a stop.