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Video: Head-on collision with another cyclist on CS3
A London cyclist has urged CS3 users to ride more cautiously after uploading footage of a head-on collision between two riders. The two collided when one attempted to overtake another cyclist on a narrow stretch of the cycle superhighway at Blackfriars.
Writing on YouTube, video uploader 4ChordsNoNet said: “This section of CS3 (East/West Cycle Superhighway) is one of the narrowest, yet it doesn't stop some people from riding too fast and trying to overtake at busy times.”
The footage shows a number of riders overtaking, but when one woman attempts to pass a man on a Boris Bike who is riding a little more centrally, she finds herself cramped for room and ends up colliding with someone approaching from the other direction.
Even worse, footage from a rear-facing camera shows that the cyclist she hits is then run into by a following rider as he lies on the ground. That person is then catapulted over the kerb and into the road. 4ChordsNoNet explained that fortunately the phasing of the lights meant the traffic had been held back.
Speaking about the aftermath, they add:
“The female cyclist that caused this chain of events had a swollen finger, grazed and maybe broken, difficult to tell. She also complained about hert shoulder, and when following her afterwards, she was constantly rubbing her thigh.
“The cyclist going the other way that she hit, needed help to get up. He said that he was okay, but I think he may have some more serious injuries that will did not surface at the time. The one that hit him and ended up in the road, seemed perfectly fine, if not a bit bruised.”
And as if fellow cyclists were not significant enough obstacles, YouTube user Simon Allen recently captured footage of a car driving in another stretch of London’s cycle superhighway network.
Alex has written for more cricket publications than the rest of the road.cc team combined. Despite the apparent evidence of this picture, he doesn't especially like cake.
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Only when p!ssed.
Then everybody else pretends that they can't hear you...
I don't think that you have to have 'had a little drink about an hour ago'... Every time I've been to that there London, the whole making small talk while you wait for the lift or the tube, or *anything*, just doesn't happen: if you try, people steadfastly look over your head and generally avoid any eye- or even just social- contact; you might as well have a huge sign stuck to your head saying "Yokel, possibly mad, definitely not from here". Many residents of that there London are, IMO, just bl**dy rude.
Ugh :eye roll: ... It's the same with women, you give them a little feel or a pinch and they hit the roof. They have NO manners.
You think that's the same thing as I'm talking about? Really?
So they don't do "social small talk" on your planet? I'm not talking about asking for random strangers' telephone numbers, FFS, I'm talking about all those "bl**dy buses" "lovely weather, eh" type comments, the ones people used to make to random strangers while waiting for the bus/lift/etc.
They were all speaking English until I walked in...
In my experience, travelling north you can't have random banter with fellow strangers until you get to about Derby. Sainsburys in Derby just of the A38 is a handy stop-off if you need respite after escaping from the grasp of the south east, motorway services further north are typically infected by the presence of Londoners desparate get out. I guess its possible that some of the rural communities further south are populated by humans but I haven't found any eveidence of that so far.
Not sure if this is the minimum banter radius from london or the distance varies in other directions. Its possible that London and Paris have overlapping no banter zones.
I'm in Bristol, so I think it fades out as you move west...
Much of the time if someone tries to talk to you they are going to ask for money - not so bad except its sometimes in a very aggressive way (and how many times have I heard the same story about having been arrested and released and now need to get home? That one often quickly segues into threats.)
Other times they think you look like a prospective customer for their drug dealing (hmmm...maybe it's just be me that gets that one so frequently, possibly I should dress more smartly). Once in a blue moon its just some non-local genuinely asking for directions, which is a relief except I rarely know the pub or restaurant or whatever that they are looking for.
When you pass thousands of strangers on every journey, if everyone talked to everyone on the street nobody would ever manage to get where they were going.
I think it's a pretty basic observation that the higher the density of people, the less they speak to each other, and vice versa. That being said, I normally try to at least politely acknowledge someone's effort to be sociable even if I'm not up for a long conversation, whether out in the countryside or somewhere that is full of people, unless they seem somehow threatening.
everyones threatening in London, I think its a northern affliction, we dont want to talk to people down south
@ SuperPython59 & Tommytrucker
Well I try to ride as close to the edge of the road pavement (given there are no parked cars and subsequently no door zone) and if there is a potentially dangerous drainage cover, I will pass it just a few cm away in order to avoid getting exposed to faster vehicular traffic.
All these years it works very nice for me, the "rightish" tactic of Boris rider seems not to have worked really well here.
Of course the Boris rider is not the first one I blame, if you pay attention I say that the Boris rider "should" have been more left whereas the woman "DEFINITELY shouldn't" have overpassed. But because we are the most vulnerable users on the road we should take any possible action to prevent accidents.
I'm not going to comment on your riding style as you describe it because others here could dissect it much better than I can. But can't you see that wobbly Boris-biker IS the most vulnerable road user here and that Sally Must-get-in-front was acting like a proper Audi. If you can't see that, well I just throw my hands in the air in despair at you...
Overtaking is essential on cycle paths. Some people just cannot ride as fast as others, particuarly up hills. If there is no overtaking then everyone will be reduced to the pace of the slowest. For this reason there has to be overtaking lanes on all cycle paths. Motor vehicles on the otherhand can all travel at the speed limit so overtaking is almost unnecessary.
Or, you wait until there is an opportunity to overtake safely, as cars are supposed to when they overtake cyclists, other cars, tractors, hgvs, fiestas full of clowns...
Classic story, a fast rider and an absent minded do not mix well.
The Boris bike rider should have been more at the left, and she definitely shouldn't overtake using an imaginary 3rd lane
Really?
Imagine you are on a road, cycling along minding your own business keeping out of the gutter when you get passed by a car so closely it causes you to wobble dangerously. When you remonstrate with the driver, their response is ' You should be further over to the left you Eedjit '
It's not only drivers who need to watch out for vulnerable road users, we do too.
Looks like sun glare to me. Charged on past half blind. Have a pair of Oakleys for sale if she's interested
Those two way cycle lanes have little room for error. Never been on one but looks a bit hairy.
Low sunlight won"t have helped, dark evenings can't come quick enough for me now. Still doesn't excuse the shit riding by various parties though.
Will say though... the boris biker, fair play in keeping that upright...
It's a 23kg tank doing 20mph, you could have t-boned it with a bus and it'd barely wobble.
Nope, I'd say teh Boris Bike chap has to take a proportion of the blame there.
The woman was clearly in the wrong, however it was the Boris Biker's positioning that left the woman with no where to go.
They'd both committed to an overtake that wasn't really on a while back, and unfortuntely the woman was the one left with no where to go.
The boris biker could have moved in, but I suspect he was holding a central position so as not to be overtaken, as he was looking to move past the riders in front as soon as possible.
Well thats how I see it.
Morale of teh story, don't overtake unless its safe to do so.. it wasn't.
I'd have thought behind him until it was safe to overtake!
How long until this ends up on the Evening Standard site with all the spittle-flecked commentary that normally follows?
Not long to go. Just spoke to them.
Ha, see you there then (Derek Dereksonsonson).
Well it's on the Daily Mail. Which is probably worse ('now cyclists are endangering each other' - as if the main problem till now was those terrifying cyclists endangering poor defenceless motorists).
Still, I look forward to them featuring similarly prominent coverage of every minor scrape that occurs between motor vehicles in this country. Mainly because it will mean there will be no room for anything else in the paper/on the site - which will probably make life easier for ethnic minorities and climate-scientists, among others.
I rode on CS3 for the first time yesterday (don't live in London) and was quite impressed with it. However it was around lunch time and the traffic levels were far lower. Main problem was the number of runners using it! I guess this doesn't happen in rish hour?
The overtaking cyclist is clearly at fault. They are trying to squeeze through a gap that isn't there, and being excessively impatient. The other cyclists aren't even going that slowly.
The Boris biker was moving slowly into the gap to the left because it's a bit tight, so can't be blamed for the overtaking cyclist clipping their bar.
Funny how soon people seem to forget what it's like to be on the receiving end of a close pass isn't it?!
The superhighway is actually pretty good but there are limitations, notably the ability to design out human stupidity.
Some people seem to have a problem with certain types of bikes overtaking/being ahead of them and the "must get in front" mentality creeps in. At busy times, there is a drafting effect and when you get people who aren't used to riding in groups at speed and impatience, well, accidents will happen.
Might even be the same people who MGIF when they're driving cars... (even cars with bikes on a roof rack, in my experience. YMMV.).
Probably the path is too narrow to pass other riders safely
It was one of those accidents that was waiting to happen and it did happen. If we don't watch out speed limits will be applied ......or are they already, I don't know.
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