Brian Cookson ousted from UCI presidency as David Lappartient wins vote

NeilG83 wrote:

Anyway steering away from the EU and back to UCI politics here's my thoughts. It's clear Cookson wasn't a popular president and I never found him very inspiring when he spoke, but I think the result says as much for Lappartient's campaigning skills as Cookson's lack of success as president. Lappartient is an elected mayor in Brittany. I'm not sure how that is compatible with being head of the UCI based in Switzerland.

Cookson has had some success whilst in the role. For example the following have happened since he has been president:

* the establishment and then expansion of the women's World Tour

* equal prize money at UCI championships

* introduction of a women's U23 race at cyclocross World Championships

* the first BMX freestyle World Cup

* a scholarship for female director sportifs

* the inclusion of the madison & BMX freestyle at the next Olympics

* the resurgence of interest in the hour record

and as a bonus he got rid of Pat McQuaid.

 

Then look at Lappartient's time as head of the French federation during which two of the biggest races on the women's calendar, the Grande Boucle and the Tour de l'Aude came to an end and one France's top teams, AG2R was suspended due to failing too many doping tests. Lappartient was also the favoured candidate of the ASO, Pat McQuaid & Lance Armstrong. 

I'm willing to give the new president a chance, but painting Cookson as a failure and Lappartient as the saviour of cycling as some are doing is very misleading.

How much of that was he personally responsible for? 

Genuine question as it's the first time I've seen anyone imply he's done anything in four years apart from pose for photos. I know most in women's cycling aren't impressed with him, and don't think he's delivered any election promises.

dottigirl wrote:

NeilG83 wrote:

Anyway steering away from the EU and back to UCI politics here's my thoughts. It's clear Cookson wasn't a popular president and I never found him very inspiring when he spoke, but I think the result says as much for Lappartient's campaigning skills as Cookson's lack of success as president. Lappartient is an elected mayor in Brittany. I'm not sure how that is compatible with being head of the UCI based in Switzerland.

Cookson has had some success whilst in the role. For example the following have happened since he has been president:

* the establishment and then expansion of the women's World Tour

* equal prize money at UCI championships

* introduction of a women's U23 race at cyclocross World Championships

* the first BMX freestyle World Cup

* a scholarship for female director sportifs

* the inclusion of the madison & BMX freestyle at the next Olympics

* the resurgence of interest in the hour record

and as a bonus he got rid of Pat McQuaid.

 

Then look at Lappartient's time as head of the French federation during which two of the biggest races on the women's calendar, the Grande Boucle and the Tour de l'Aude came to an end and one France's top teams, AG2R was suspended due to failing too many doping tests. Lappartient was also the favoured candidate of the ASO, Pat McQuaid & Lance Armstrong. 

I'm willing to give the new president a chance, but painting Cookson as a failure and Lappartient as the saviour of cycling as some are doing is very misleading.

How much of that was he personally responsible for? 

Genuine question as it's the first time I've seen anyone imply he's done anything in four years apart from pose for photos. I know most in women's cycling aren't impressed with him, and don't think he's delivered any election promises.

Amongst his waffle on the radio this morning, I heard him say he'd split the drug testing governance out to be independent from the UCI. I'm not sure how accurate that is, in practice, but that does deserve applause.

Other than that, it was all unmeasurable weaselly stuff, and 'Pat McQuaid smells of wee' (not an actual quote).

dottigirl wrote:

NeilG83 wrote:

Anyway steering away from the EU and back to UCI politics here's my thoughts. It's clear Cookson wasn't a popular president and I never found him very inspiring when he spoke, but I think the result says as much for Lappartient's campaigning skills as Cookson's lack of success as president. Lappartient is an elected mayor in Brittany. I'm not sure how that is compatible with being head of the UCI based in Switzerland.

Cookson has had some success whilst in the role. For example the following have happened since he has been president:

* the establishment and then expansion of the women's World Tour

* equal prize money at UCI championships

* introduction of a women's U23 race at cyclocross World Championships

* the first BMX freestyle World Cup

* a scholarship for female director sportifs

* the inclusion of the madison & BMX freestyle at the next Olympics

* the resurgence of interest in the hour record

and as a bonus he got rid of Pat McQuaid.

 

Then look at Lappartient's time as head of the French federation during which two of the biggest races on the women's calendar, the Grande Boucle and the Tour de l'Aude came to an end and one France's top teams, AG2R was suspended due to failing too many doping tests. Lappartient was also the favoured candidate of the ASO, Pat McQuaid & Lance Armstrong. 

I'm willing to give the new president a chance, but painting Cookson as a failure and Lappartient as the saviour of cycling as some are doing is very misleading.

How much of that was he personally responsible for? 

Genuine question as it's the first time I've seen anyone imply he's done anything in four years apart from pose for photos. I know most in women's cycling aren't impressed with him, and don't think he's delivered any election promises.

I don't know hence I said those things had happened rather respnsible for, but surely he can take some credit for things that have been a success, especially as even if he wasn't personally responsible he was in charge of hiring and firing those who were.  You could also add the idependent anti-doping body, the extreme weather protocol and motor checks to my list. That is quite a lot of progress for some who took charge of a failing organisation. 

There is clearly many more improvements to be made. Maybe Lappartient is the man to do it.

RTB wrote:

Something of a 'Jimmy Carter' transitionary presidency really.  Like Carter, followed a scandal, did not rock many boats or confront the challenges of the day and will not be remembered for much if anything.

Carter has probably saved more lives than anyone after Pasteur and Fleming.

Leviathan wrote:

RTB wrote:

Something of a 'Jimmy Carter' transitionary presidency really.  Like Carter, followed a scandal, did not rock many boats or confront the challenges of the day and will not be remembered for much if anything.

Carter has probably saved more lives than anyone after Pasteur and Fleming.

...excepting those with peanut allergies of course

Edgeley wrote:

 "following our mad rejection of the world's most successful international organisation."

If you mean the EU then perhaps you are the barking one for suggesting a venal pit of non-democratic, jobs-for-boys with free gravy train politburo is 'successful'. 

An article about the UCI and you had to hijack it to promote your own bilge.  Get over yourself.

RTB wrote:

Edgeley wrote:

 "following our mad rejection of the world's most successful international organisation."

 

If you mean the EU then perhaps you are the barking one for suggesting a venal pit of non-democratic, jobs-for-boys with free gravy train politburo is 'successful'. 

An article about the UCI and you had to hijack it to promote your own bilge.  Get over yourself.

I agree a cycling forum is not the place to debate the merits or faults of the EU, but why reply with your own 'bilge'.

NeilG83 wrote:

RTB wrote:

Edgeley wrote:

 "following our mad rejection of the world's most successful international organisation."

 

If you mean the EU then perhaps you are the barking one for suggesting a venal pit of non-democratic, jobs-for-boys with free gravy train politburo is 'successful'. 

An article about the UCI and you had to hijack it to promote your own bilge.  Get over yourself.

 

I agree a cycling forum is not the place to debate the merits or faults of the EU, but why reply with your own 'bilge'.

Cause & effect, first blood, Newton's third law; take your pick. 

The last thing I expected to be climbing in on today was something to do with the EU.  I agree it's tiresome but some just won't shut up, get over it and move on.

RTB wrote:

NeilG83 wrote:

RTB wrote:

Edgeley wrote:

 "following our mad rejection of the world's most successful international organisation."

 

If you mean the EU then perhaps you are the barking one for suggesting a venal pit of non-democratic, jobs-for-boys with free gravy train politburo is 'successful'. 

An article about the UCI and you had to hijack it to promote your own bilge.  Get over yourself.

 

I agree a cycling forum is not the place to debate the merits or faults of the EU, but why reply with your own 'bilge'.

Cause & effect, first blood, Newton's third law; take your pick. 

The last thing I expected to be climbing in on today was something to do with the EU.  I agree it's tiresome but some just won't shut up, get over it and move on.

 

Hmmm, but why would they? Just under half the population that voted to remain did so because they believed (rightly or wrongly) that it was the right choice. Just because a small amount more of their peers voted differently isn't going to change their belief's why should it?

And attached to that, if you think something is wrong, why should you just shut up and take it? 

You need to accept that the referendum thing ain't going away... it solved nothing (ok very little)... it proved nothing... it merely chose a path to follow (again rightly or wrongly). That doesn't mean plenty (rightly or wrongly) won't like this path and will be happy, and perfectly happy to vocalise this fact. 

Edgeley wrote:

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 And quite possibly British people aren't going to be favoured for international federal organisations following our mad rejection of the world's most successful international organisation.

Really? I had no idea we were leaving NATO.