Cyclists are 15 times more likely to be killed on the road than drivers

Nobody said that cycling is safe. But first of all with proper infrastructure, law and education these stats can change. Second when I cycle I cause danger only to myself (ok mr briggs, and to some very very very rare occasions to pedestrians, lets say 1 or 2 in around 50 million of UK active pedestrians per year). Driving a motor vehicle can be dangerous for other road users and is 100% dangerous for all people's lungs that they cannot avoid. There is too much attention given to road safety compared to the health damage EVERYBODY gets from internal combustion engines.

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So out on my motorbike just for an hour doing some bits and pieces and I had car drivers trying to overtake and cut in late for a off-ramp, a matt black audi doing about 70 in a 50 zone on the A3, a pedestrian deciding to cross on a pedestrian crossing but not using it and seemed to just stroll across the road in front of an oncoming car and then one cyclist ignoring a red light and at the next traffic light she ignored another and a whole pack of cyclists ignored it coming from a different direction. It is just another day on our roads where the vehicle isn't the problem but the attitude of the person using it is.

Would be good to compare these figures to Holland or Copenhagen so we can see the true cost of the UK Government not spending money on safe infrastructure

Last time I looked at deaths per billion miles my motorcycle was 4 times more likely to result in my death than my bicycle.

Dodgy stats to calculate deaths per mile in that way, as it's not comparing like with like. More useful would be to exclude motorway miles - a better comparison with cycling, and would result in a significantly higher deaths per mile for driving.

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The Daily Telegraph looked at government data and concluded that in 2016, “three pedestrians died in such incidents across Great Britain while a further 108 sustained serious injury.”

One thing news had noted is a sudden uptick in motorists deaths in the USA after years of declining deaths. The smart phone is quite likely a factor with motorists checking social media and chatting/texting etc.

How many of these pedestrians injured by cyclists were injured because they just stepped in to the road without looking, glued to their phones? They notice the noise of an approaching vehicle but cyclists are pretty silent.

The shocking thing is that the discrepency isn't higher given the multiple airbags, seatbelts, crash protection beams, steel shell etc. (Conservatively) take 90 of those cycling deaths out caused directly by the criminal act of motorists and even similar% for fault/reason for serious injury and immediately you have a solution.
Ban motorvehicles, force the driving std much higher, penalise/remove errant drivers or those simply not capable of reaching the std or last option segregation.

If my dodgy maths is right, then deaths as a percent of accidents is 0.5% and 0.7% for cyclists and cars respectively. So proporionately more likely to die in a car accident (where there is injury) than a bike accident. /dodgy maths

Clearly the solution (if one can call it that) for these statistics is that for every cyclist killed we execute 15 drivers.

Only takes a moment to tweet this to Jesse Norman;

https://twitter.com/Jesse_Norman?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%...

And yet the government is not releasing money for segregated cycle lanes whilst considering compulsory Hi viz and helmets.