Jack has been writing about cycling and multisport for over a decade, arriving at road.cc via 220 Triathlon Magazine in 2017. He worked across all areas of the website including tech, news and video, and also contributed to eBikeTips before being named Editor of road.cc in 2021 (much to his surprise). Jack has been hooked on cycling since his student days, and currently has a Trek 1.2 for winter riding, a beloved Bickerton folding bike for getting around town and an extra beloved custom Ridley Helium SLX for fantasising about going fast in his stable. Jack has never won a bike race, but does have a master's degree in print journalism and two Guinness World Records for pogo sticking (it's a long story).
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I reckon that Rowe was either flicking a bogey or about to do rabbit ears on his mate in front.
The dimwit above having a go at him is just a self interested attention seeker. "he" can't even express himself without swearing in public , an indication of low intellect and is obviously one of those people who feel that being nasty is being clever. Reminds me of the 7 year olds I teach.
use of any thing by anyone is totally irrelevant if it if its not being used by another person for that same purpose.
I guess that everytime I signal a score of zero with a clenched fist I am also a supporter of Malcolm X.
Click bait as expected of RoadCC and idiots respond.:)
I think it's time that us cyclists appropriated a sign or two. Has the raised fist been taken yet?
The only thing left for cyclists to appropriate is the exhaust noise.
Fight the horsepower!
Black Panthers / black power, I think...
What about the raised middle finger?
And don't forget the thumbs up nazis. Yes, you thought thumbs up was innocent, but no more, you nazi filth.
Look at this damn nazi...
Luke Rowe tries to hoop people, gets accused of being a white supremacist. No he isn’t, childish, and about 10 years behind the times, maybe.
I did some googling on that hand gesture thing, and there are so many differing opinions it's just insane.
Some articles claim it was already in use as alt-right code *before* the 4chan post saying hey let's make up a story so the msm look stupid (as a smokescreen).
Others reckon the 4chan thing is genuine and was the start of it, but that the alt-right never seriously use the symbol and have left it out there just to screw with people.
And others say the 4chan thing is genuine, that it started it and that the alt-right do genuinely use it as a secret handshake.
The whole thing kinda pi$$es me off, honestly.
Who the **** reads 4chan?
Not me though that's more of a political protest against their choice of space cargo:
https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/4chan-b-baby-squirrels-rocket-launch/
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Fluffy, I have ridden over Hungerford common, it is on the NCN4 (and as I discovered yesterday EuroVelo2) I was both charmed and suprised to see roaming cattle. It was a lovely bit of the world. Damn those speeding motorists.
I'm guessing that the New Forest people will have to do the same thing with their ponies, after they sort out their problems with those pesky cyclists.
The "OK" hand gesture is used in scuba diving where the thumbs up signal means something entirely different and potentially dangerous if you have a misunderstanding.
Answer is not to let the facists appropriate our signs and symbols. I hated it when the BNP appropriated the Union Jack and there was a time when displaying our own national flag was almost considered an act of racism. Fortunately the 2012 Olympics finally put paid to that stupidity and it was cool to wear the flag again.
This "OK" thing is the fault of the stupid MSM. Maybe there should be a show of strength by high profile sports people and celebrities to reclaim it, rather than letting the wannabe nazis have it.
White supremacists can have this sign from me.
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Deer should have number plates, insurance and wear hi-viz.
Are you a 'civic leader'?
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/cows-could-fitted-lights-hi-613...
"Then you have donkey-brained fuckwits like Luke Rowe, who being one of millions of dumb meme consuming children who grew up on the internet, think its really funny to do this in photos without realising exactly what it is he is doing"
that makes no sense, he is the oppersite to what you describe because he doesn't realise that symbol has been appropriated in the way it has.
As a membase beginer (basically the begining of meme-times) even i didn't know the symbol had been appropriated like that, and your right, don't go to 8Chan/4Chan and shame on the media being tards and not doing any actual fact based investiagtion on claims like this with out evidence.
Anyone remember Fox news accusing the Obamas of performing a "terrorist fist bump"?
From a quick check, rkemb, I understand that is the case, no wonder the nasty fascists use it to acknowledge each other.
Am I naive, in that I would use that as either "OK" or "Be seeing you!" (depending on the company)? I wouldn't have known for a second that it was a white power symbol...
(And, my kids do the hitting-each-other-on-the-arm thing too, but I'd never heard of that before either).
It's also American Sign Language for "arsehole".
Thats what it is/was (meaning 'ok') but....
The shitposting, basement dwelling, unwashed, incel edgelords that reside on some of the festering arsehole places of the internet (4chan, 8chan.... really, dont go there) thought it would be funny to appropriate certain symbols and then post everywhere that it is a symbol of white supremacy / far right movements.
The press then picked up on it and instead of saying "oh look, the worst people in society are trying to bait us into something", they instead run with it and next thing you know, all these various previously innocuous things are associated with the far right.
Then you have donkey-brained fuckwits like Luke Rowe, who being one of millions of dumb meme consuming children who grew up on the internet, think its really funny to do this in photos without realising exactly what it is he is doing. Shit hits fan.
For those that say that its still an innocuous thing, just remember that the swastika and the sauwastika were (and still are) Indian symbols of good luck but were appropriated and now mean something else.
Damn, that's irritating behaviour all-round.
Can it not somehow be put about that MAGA is a secret code for expressing support for the Islamification of the west?
What MAGA should be associated with is... look up Jeffery Epstein, who his friends are, who got him a really good plea deal and who that person works for now and who said he was '...a great guy. The bestest guy' (probably).
If Luke Rowe didnt know what he was doing and what it has come to mean, then he needs to get up to speed really fucking quickly.
God, the US system is so corrupt, and it's not just Trump.
I'm not sure about "what it has come to mean", though. Should the alt-right be allowed to just take an existing symbol for themselves?
There's something quite devious about the way the right employ mock-irony and faux-trolling for plausible deniability. This quasi-appropriation of an existing inoccuous gesture seems entirely typical. Sow confusion and dischord among those who don't in fact support you, while being able to signal to your own, at the same time as acting innocent.
Very unfair both on Luke Rowe and on young people. Given the comments on this article, he's not the only person who had no idea that the OK/zero/Don'tLookGame hand signal had been appropriated by internet-dwelling morons. By simply leaving Twitter and not reacting, I think he's actually shown maturity. How many people who live in the real world actually frequent 4chan (which I've heard of) and 8chan (which I haven't) anyway? It's going to be awkward next time I go diving...
By the way, you'll see swastikas of various designs throughout South and Southeast Asia, where its appropriation by the Nazis is either ignored or not widely known; it continues to be used with its original meaning, same as Luke Rowe was doing here, without anyone being accused of supporting Hitler.
All very true, but there has always been a group of people who have to be offended at something, even if it is innocuous to most people. Unless it is clearly a deliberate attempt to be fascist, racist, or whatever -ist, then relax, take a breath and tell yourself it really doesn't matter compared to the rest of the shit we have to deal with every day.
I must also be a donkey brained fuckwith for not knowing some internet dwelling right wingers have appropriated a hand sign that's in common usage and still has other innocuous meaning to the vast majority of the rest of the western world's population.
In fact, the more this donkey brained fuckwith thinks about it, the more I think the biggest donkey brained fuckwits are those people who a) allow rightwing donkey brained fuckwits to appropriate things from them and suck them into being offended b) thinks everyone else who doesn't even know or care about these right wing idiots is a donkey brained fuckwit.
They may have appropriated the sign from you, but they haven't appropriated it from me thanks all the same. Right wing internet dwellers are currently drinking beer and laughing that internet snowflakes have been successfully swayed into being offended by someone using this sign.
and Luke Rowe is probably more interested in riding his bike than learning about right wingers approriating a wanking gesture.
this guy right here, gets it.
My front spokes decapitated a butterfly over the weekend, heart breaking times!
So the answer to Alexander Pope's question is 'alanmurphy'. Finally cleared that one up!
Brilliant.
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