Court that handed down £35 fine for collision that killed cyclist decides on £110 fine for hitting parked car

This is why the UK needs directives from the EU. England is filled with self-serving and adolescent children.

Continental europeans are civilised and their leaders are far, far more competent. Almost every one of these countries is a significantly more pleasant place to live and bring up children.

I love England but my heart is continually broken by the horrible mess that is squarely the fault of big business, corrupt politicians and the financial elite. This country and its governance class is simply incapable of being in any way helpful, or exercising leadership that is caring of the overall population; it is clear that with very few exceptions UK politicians and the judiciary are utterly corrupt.

The general population has transformed into an aggressive, angry and hateful people, due in part, to many years of this mismanagement, innumerable ethical violations, cynicism and stupidity.

There is no other way to explain all these senseless deaths and sentencing outcomes.

Crikey at this rate it won’t be long before you can run over and maim/kill a cyclist and then take out a case against their family to get your vehicle fixed. I would say I’m lost for words but more a case of probably best not to print them on a family site.

S'ok! I actually feel that the driving to the top of Snowdon case was way out of kilter. Some bloke does little to harm people, he's an idiot, but 22 months in jail (he gets charged with dangerous driving). There are few cases where people who do kill a cyclist when dangerous driving get that type of sentence.

bendertherobot - sorry mate, late night at work and still tired this morning, my mistake.

basically what happens is:

you are charged with the offence and get a court date to attend mags court. Once there you either plead guilty or not guilty and, due to the sentencing guidelines for mags, the case is refered to crown for sentencing or trial.

On this case the magistrates must have felt a life was only worth £35 and 3 points so dealt with it and did not refer it to crown.

There are variances to what i have typed above but that is the main route a case will follow.

Stumpy, it couldn't. Driving without due care is a summary only (Magistrates Court) offence.

Remember the Court can only deal with the charge that the CPS has brought.

At the very least they could have handed down the maximum fine and ban. But that's all they could do.

Instead attention should be turned to the actual charge brought.

The problem is the evidence. In the second case, the driving away, the evidence is plain to see, accident, damage caused, failing to stop. In the first all we can do is conject.

I still think they're out of kilter though.

How can any death be dealt with at a Magistrates court? It makes of mockery of the CJS and more so of human life.

The original case should have been moved straight to crown court and not left at magistrates.

At least then it would have brought a heftier sentence.

As for the hit and run that seems an excessive sentence. What people have to note though is that it may well have been and probably was different magistrates sitting at each case.