Yesterday’s news that Pauline Ferrand-Prévot – to date the only female pro cyclist to race for the Ineos Grenadiers and the author of the British squad’s 500th victory – is set to return to road racing in 2025 with Visma-Lease a Bike has reignited that old debate that has been rumbling on in for 14 years…
Should Ineos set up a professional women’s team?
With some of the biggest and most successful teams in the men’s side of the sport, such as Visma, UAE, Lidl-Trek, DSM, Jayco-AlUla, Movistar, and FDJ, sponsoring their Women’s World Tour counterparts, Ineos’ distinct lack of interest (with the exception of their solitary backing of Ferrand-Prévot’s off-road career over the past two seasons) appears increasingly glaring, especially considering the rapidly growing nature of women’s cycling.
> Pauline Ferrand-Prévot set to join Visma-Lease a Bike on three-year deal in road racing return, as Ineos confirm no plans to start women’s team
Of course, this is nothing new.
In 2009, when plans were being finalised for what would become Team Sky, Britain’s women were arguably making greater waves than their male equivalents.
When Dave Brailsford was waxing lyrical about developing a (male) Tour de France winner within five years, the women’s side already had their own double winner of the women’s version, Nicole Cooke, who also happened to be the reigning world and Olympic champion. Emma Pooley, another winner of what was then the Grand Boucle, was a year away from winning a world time trial title, while Lizzie Deignan (then Armitstead) was already winning and on the verge of a big breakthrough.
> Could Team Sky be about to run a women's team?
Meanwhile, the last British winner of a world title on the road was David Millar in the time trial in 2003 –Millar would be stripped of that title after admitting EPO use, a fact that ruled him out of involvement in the Sky project anyway.
With the exception of Mark Cavendish, who had already established himself as the fastest man in the world (and, again, wouldn’t be immediately involved with Sky), it would take until Bradley Wiggins’ surprise fourth at the 2009 Tour for Brailsford’s assertions of British grand tour dominance to not appear just a case of wishful thinking.
And it’s not that there weren’t attempts to drum up for a women’s Team Sky to exist alongside the men. A group of leading riders were rebuffed at the time, while another move to secure a women’s squad in the wake of the 2012 London Olympics was thwarted at Sky’s board level, a decision described by future team CEO Fran Millar nine years later as “an oversight”.
(The prioritisation of a less successful men’s group over the country’s high-achieving women is a long-running theme in British cycling, unfortunately – just ask Eileen Gray, who was forced to run the multi-world title winning British women’s team of the early 1960s, led by Beryl Burton, on a pittance, and often with outright opposition and sometimes sabotage from the BCF, while the men were afforded considerable backing and came away with little to show for it.)
However, the acquisition of French star Ferrand-Prévot in 2022 was, according to Ineos’ now departed deputy team principal Rod Ellingworth, a sign the team was at last “moving in the right direction”.
> Rumours surface about Ineos Grenadiers women’s team
Well, yesterday’s news seems to show Ineos have once more veered off course – and it’s left many fans and pundits on social media scratching their heads.
“It still baffles me that there is no women’s Ineos Grenadiers – or a Team Sky before that,” cycling writer Andy McGrath said on X, while fellow journo Richard Williams branded the lack of interest “a disgrace”.
“I guess when a sponsor gives you €30/40/50m a year and they don’t ask for it (especially when there are characters like James Murdoch and Jim Ratcliffe) you don’t bother pushing. It’s sad and ironically very reminiscent of what happened at Manchester United FC,” added Steve Fry, referring to the Glazer family’s decision to disband United’s women’s team after taking over in the mid-2000s.
“From a sponsorship perspective, Sky was a bit of a surprise. Ineos not so much,” said Ben Atkins.
(CorVos, SWpix.com)
“What baffles me is that with 50 million Ineos doesn’t have a women’s team, devo team, and still manages to retain a sponsor with deep pockets without winning a GT, a top one-week WT race or a world championships since 2021,” wrote Eurosport commentator Gonçalo Moreira. “Their business department is the team’s true star.”
“Baffling, and a huge miss to help develop the sport on the women's side in the UK. Honestly, I think it's pretty shameful, given the seeming unlimited resources the organisation have always had,” said Harry.
“It is shameful that any major team sponsor does not insist on female and male teams. Will Ineos be closing the Man Utd women’s team?” asked Wayne Mills.
Cycling writer Katy Madgwick also noted that “it’s actually much better at the Conti level for women than men here right now, the scene is ripe with talent, Ineos could easily just pick one and throw money at it.”
Pfeiffer Georgi and Anna Henderson drive the break at last week’s Tour of Britain Women (Alex Whitehead/SWpix.com)
While most onlookers were critical of Ineos’ disinterested stance, others described the decision as “business”.
“Thinking about it though, they’d have to have a long term plan,” said Dr Headgear. “Imagine the shit if they sponsored a team for three years and didn’t renew, leaving them short of a sponsor and... boom.”
“I’d probably rather see the Ineos organisation throw some structured money at one of the already existing UK women’s (and Devo) teams than create a new one,” added Stine Momo.
What do you think? Is the lack of an Ineos women’s team still baffling 14 years on? Or is the women’s side of the sport ticking along just nicely without Sir Jim’s input?
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Share the road to zero seem to be rather ill-informed about a lot of things. I've just looked at their website and it has a section devoted to sustainable transport: guess which form of sustainable transport is always mentioned last? Of course you guessed, it's cycling. https://sharetheroadtozero.com/SustainableTravel And of course, all the cyclists featured are wearing a helmet and light coloured clothing.
This is something that occurs in a lot of documents, mentioning the most beneficial, most sustainable mode of transport last, as if it's an afterthought, or just not really as good as the rest.
I agree with your general complaint at the end. Don't say the "C" word...
As for this group ... I've not heard of them before so had a quick browse. Most seems to be reasonable advice, for motorists. I'd suggest most organisations to do with travel are probably motorist-centric, because (outside of walking) most travel is done by motor vehicle.
The did have more pictures of bikes than I expected though!
Of course I'd love to see people think a bit further - and consider that road safety is a lot more than "share the road" and "take care out there" *. What makes a difference IMHO is rather engineering, our systems and finally "cultural norms" But ... that's out of the control of most so I understand why things like "drive safe", "think bike" and "wear hi-viz / take primary" often become campaign foci.
* Actually I hope we can think much further than just "safe streets". Or even "nicer places"...
“If cars have to give 1.5m to pass a cyclist, then cyclists should be banned from every road where that’s not possible without driving on the wrong side. Which is pretty much every road going.”
I'm convinced this oft repeated statement is made by non-drivers. Surely anyone with a licence knows they can cross to the 'wrong side' when necessary.
And if driving on the "wrong" side isn't allowed, and your side isn't wide enough for you to pass safely, then you don't pass. It's not difficult.
If we're going to ban everything which "forces" drivers to cross the centre line, on-street parking will have to go from virtually every urban street for a start.
Wouldn't it be easier if the drivers don't overtake where there isn't room?
That too, obviously, but can we ban on-street parking anyway? Works in Japan…
This idiot's logic would dictate that cars are banned from 'pretty much every road going' so that cars dont have to drive on the wrong side to overtake them.
(Yes, I know it makes absolutely no sense at all.)
Having a female team should be a prerequisite to World Tour entry. No Female team? No Grande Boucle, Giro, Vuelta etc. There is no excuse. Is Big Jim also going to shut down the Man Utd ladies team too? Join the 21st century bud.
remember plebs; cycle lanes are there to get you out of the way of cars, they are not there for your safety or convenience.
That said, just because the driver is wrong, doesn't make your injuries less severe, so consider your safety, especially with large vehicles with poor visibility.
Not cycling, but:
Driver cuts across vulnerable road user, but vulnerable road user gets fined? Surely the driver's actions were more of an aggravating factor than the motorcyclist's speed (which is presumably why they were fined).
Motorcyclist fined after fireball Cambridge car crash - BBC News
Driving/riding without insurance probably didn't help him, but otherwise I agree that the 'without due care and attention' should surely have come down on the driver who turned right, right in front of the oncoming motorcyclist?
Sounds like it might be more than just speeding.
Disqualified rider caused fireball crash - Cambridge Police
He initially denied riding the motorbike, but he also lost a toe in the collision. Did he turn up at the hospital and claim it just fell off for no reason?
A friend of mine started his medical career as an A&E doctor, I remember him saying it was very common to get drunks turning up on Saturday nights with obvious car crash injuries – seatbelt and airbag abrasions, for example – alongside less-easily-attributable damage and claiming that they had tripped on the stairs or slipped in the shower.
Nursie: That was another good idea! You are so clever today, you better be careful your foot doesn't fall off.
Queen Elizabeth: Does that happen, when you have lots of brilliant ideas? Your foot falls off?
Nursie: Certainly does! My brother, he had this brilliant idea of cutting his toenails with a scythe, and his foot fell off.
The motorcyclist had a cunning plan...
Bakeoff is on tonight! Woot!
So Shell as a sponsor is bad, but Ineos is good & should do more? Hmm.
Ineos is definitely not good and Radcliffe should be in prison but there is a big difference between sponsoring a single pro team and sponsoring the national governing body for the whole sport who also has significant influence over policy.
good recovery that.
Lampaert no doubt has a full size one back at home.
Similar situation with regards to football.
Women's events rarely get much, if any, mention in the news.
Though it is increasing.
What annoys me is the news readers say the names of the men's teams without saying "XYZ Men's Team" but will say "XYZ Women's Team" indicating a clear inequality.
I have a similar bugbear, when they talk about football, immediatly diving into teams/player/manager/tournaments etc without first saying they are talking about football - just expect everyone to know, for everything else they identify the sport first.
And on your point above I find the BBC in particular have dropped the "womens" from many of thier reports rather than adding "mens" to clarify the difference, they just dive in, again expecting the listener to know by the names of the player or managers etc.
Darren Kenny, gold in the road race at the World Disability Championships, 2005. If you're going to write about how women's achievements are ignored perhaps shouldn't ignore the achievements of disabled cyclists either.
I'm not sure the point they're trying to make Nicole Cooke was world road race champion in 2008. Emma Pooley won the timetrial 2010.
Lizzie Deignan won the road race in 2015. Zoe Bäckstedt won the Junior race 2021 and 2022.
Cav won the road in 2011, Wth has David Millers 2003 time trial got to do with anything ?
They were pointing out that when Sky/DB set up their project in 2009 to pull British Cycling out of the doldrums, it was only men's cycling that was in the doldrums, the women having had more recent success and so being deserving of having their own pro team setup from the same sponsor. A fair point but they could have mentioned the disability world champion as well.
It's the continuation of a train of thought which begins "In 2009, when plans were being finalised for what would become Team Sky..."
So at the risk of stating the obvious - in 2009 David Millar's 2003 TT win had happened, and Cav's 2011 win had not happened.
And yet if that is the train of thought of the author, in 2009 the "last British winner on the road" was actually Nicole Cooke in 2008.
You'd think that would be notable to highlight in a piece designed to promote discussion about why there isn't Team Ineos for women team, and instead it sidelines her to focus on Millars instead.
You're still missing the point! The writer states "In 2009, when plans were being finalised for what would become Team Sky, Britain’s women were arguably making greater waves than their male equivalents." They then go on the describe all the world championship achievements of Britain's female cyclists in the noughties, including those of Cooke, and point out that the best the men could muster over the same period was the win from Millar which was subsequently stripped in any case, all this being mentioned to point out that Sky/DB should have set up a women's team at the same time. They've done exactly what you're accusing them of not doing.
Ok let's make it really simple, the year is 2009 who was the last British winner of a world title on the road ?
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