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Rose statement on ceasing UK bike sales; Lukas Pöstlberger stung in the mouth by a bee, abandons TDF; LTNs compared to Holocaust by disgruntled driver; Jumbo-Visma boss thrown off Tour after mechanical doping check row + more on the live blog

It's Friday! Jack Sexty is here to provide your lead live blog coverage today with other members of the team chipping in intermittently.....
18 September 2020, 15:45
Tiverton cyclists warned not to cycle under canal bridges after woman suffers serious injury
Grand Western Canal basin at Tiverton - via wikimedia commons

A female cyclist was saved by a community patrol boat on the Grand Western Canal in Devon after falling off under a bridge. 

In Your Area report that the woman - a nurse in her 60s - fell off after hitting the brakes while cycling underneath East Manley Bridge near Tiverton on Wednesday afternoon, and was transported back to the basin by the patrol boat before going to hospital. 

A spokesperson for the Grand Western Canal rangers said that cycling under the canal bridges was prohibited, and the incident highlighted the need to heed the signs along the canal path route: “We are sorry to hear about this accident but are pleased to hear that the community patrol boat was able to help the lady", said the spokesperson. 

“It does highlight the importance of following the instructions on the signs at the bridges. The canal rangers will always speak to any inconsiderate cyclists we meet failing to take due care at bridges, but we do have to fit this in around a very demanding workload just keeping on top of the basic maintenance of the country park.

“Unfortunately within any user group there always seems to be a minority of belligerent and inconsiderate people who think only of themselves; whether it is cyclists riding dangerously, dog walkers failing to pick up their dog’s mess, speeding boaters or anglers leaving rubbish and discarded tackle.

“The latest approach reflected in the new signage at the bridges is to try and get cyclists to appreciate the dangers they pose to others if cycling under the bridges - especially more vulnerable towpath users. We will back this up by speaking to the cyclists we meet, explaining to them the dangers posed by cycling under the bridges where this is prohibited.”

While there is no countrywide law that prevents cycling under canal bridges in the UK, the Canal and River Trust advise cyclists to exercise caution and respect local by-laws. 

Their guidance says: "Remember that pedestrians have priority. If you encounter oncoming pedestrians or cyclists beneath bridges, give way to them and be extra careful at bends and entrances where your visibility may be limited. It’s a different pace to cycling on the roads.

"While the majority of our waterways are open to cyclists, please keep an eye out for ‘no cycling’ signs along the way. You may need to dismount where needed and use common sense in busy or restricted areas, recognising that pedestrians have priority."

18 September 2020, 15:19
Søren Kragh Andersen wins stage 19

A perfectly executed attack from the Dane and Team Sunweb nets him his second stage win of the 2020 Tour de France - full report here

18 September 2020, 15:16
It looks like Andersen has done it

The audacious attack has paid off, and Anderson is clear with 2km to go. He doesn't know the time gap so he's still going full gas, but he'll be relieved to find out he's about a minute clear very soon. 

18 September 2020, 15:08
Tour de France stage 19: Søren Kragh Andersen breaks away with 10km to go

Can the powerful Dane hold on? His lead has grown to about 40 secs at the time of writing after taking advantage of a hesitant peloton. 

18 September 2020, 14:38
"We hope to soon be able to offer our bikes again to the UK": Rose Bikes publish statement explaining why they have stopped selling to the UK
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As we reported earlier this week, a leaked email from a would-be UK customer of the German retailers said that Rose would no longer be shipping bikes to the UK for 'legal reasons'; and they've now clarified the reasons in a full statement. 

Rose say: 

As some of you have already noticed, we recently had to discontinue the assembly and shipping of ROSE bikes for the UK. This was a difficult decision for us, so we want to take some time to explain it to you. 
 
In the UK, bicycles are constructed differently than in the rest of Europe: The market standards and laws in Great Britain, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland clearly convey that the front brake lever must be mounted on the right-hand side of the handlebar and the rear brake lever on the left-hand side. For the rest of Europe, it is the exact opposite.
 
With the technical complexity of our bikes increasing, we are facing the ever-growing challenge of being able to offer affordable ROSE bikes with a high level of quality and safety. And because we want to shorten our delivery times for our customers, this summer we decided to gradually shut down the configuration of bikes, so that we are able to maintain our usual standards. Installing the brake cables and brake levers on the opposite side would require the type of special solution for the UK that we simply can’t realise right now.
 
We want to be able to guarantee each and every ROSE bike rider that they are sitting on a safe bike and keep the same level of quality. As soon as we are done with the transition in our production and get more clarity about the future of doing business with the UK, we will look for a long-term solution. Because we hope to soon be able to offer our bikes again to the UK and its vital market.
 
Until then, you can still find our bikes on www.rosebikes.com and in our stores in Germany and Switzerland. We’re hoping for your understanding.

On the Rose Bikes UK website it's no longer possible to buy full bikes, with just parts and accessories for sale. 

18 September 2020, 13:11
Bora-Hansgrohe confirm Lukas Pöstlberger suffered an anaphylactic reaction to bee sting, but "is already feeling better again"

Thankfully it looks like a speedy recovery, with Bora-Hansgrohe's team doctor taking the sting out of the bad news by confirming no one should be worried for Pöstlberger's health... phew! 

18 September 2020, 12:33
Will he bee ok? Lukas Pöstlberger abandons Tour de France after being stung in the mouth by a bee

The unfortunate Austrian is not hive-ing a nice day at all, after his team Bora-Hansgrohe reported that he was forced to abandon on stage 19 after taking a bee sting to the mouth. 

The 28-year-old was treated while he was still moving initially, but eventually had to dismount and head to hospital after suffering a suspected allergic reaction.

Pöstlberger will be in pain both physically and mentally after bowing out just two days before the Tour arrives in Paris, having got through the tough days in the mountains; it also means that Peter Sagan will be without an important teammate as he looks to wrestle the green jersey back from Sam Bennett. 

Hopefully Pöstlberger's recovery will be speedy, and he'll be back on the team buzz soon (sorry). 

18 September 2020, 11:39
Canada: police search after man knocked cyclists off their bikes using a telescopic camera pole
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Durham Police (that's the Durham Region in Ontario, Canada) have released an image of a suspect (above) who is accused of injuring two cyclists and a pedestrian by tripping up the cyclists with a telescopic camera pole. 

The two female victims who were on bikes reported that they observed a man walking on the Whitby Waterfront trail, 'yelling' at cyclists as they passed him. The suspect then extended his camera pole into the path of the cyclists which struck one of the victims' bikes, causing the two to collide. Two pedestrians were also hit by the bikes, with both cyclists requiring medical treatment and one of the pedestrians suffering minor injuries. 

The suspect, described as 50-60 years of age and around 5"10 tall, left on foot without stopping to assist his victims - investigators are still trying to identify him. 

18 September 2020, 10:21
Highway Code review taking place this morning, with a 'hierarchy of road users' and safe passing distances on the agenda
London cyclists at traffic lights (copyright Britishcycling.org_.uk).jpg

Chaired by MPs Ruth Cadbury MP Selaine Saxby, the government has launched a consultation on changes to benefit active travel. One of these is establishing a hierarchy of road users into the Highway Code, which would "ensure that those who can do the greatest harm have the greatest responsibility to reduce the danger or threat they may pose to others"; which sounds similar to the 'presumed liability' laws throughout most of Europe - the UK is one of only four countries that doesn't have such a system in place. 

Other proposed changes include: 

- Drivers and cyclists will have to give way to pedestrians waiting to cross a side road or junction

- Introducing clarifying existing rules on pedestrian priority on pavements and that drivers and riders should give way to pedestrians crossing or waiting to cross the road

- Establishing guidance on safe passing distances and speeds when overtaking cyclists or horse riders, and ensuring that they have priority at junctions when travelling straight ahead

Speakers so far have included Roger Geffen of Cycling UK, who has proposed that cyclists should be encouraged to take up the primary position. He also says new rules should be made on safe passing distances "to prevent injuries, fear and intimidation", suggesting a distance of 2 metres for drivers passing cyclists at over 30mph. 

18 September 2020, 09:01
"I think we may have hit peak tasteless": people are dumbfounded after LTN schemes compared to the Holocaust and Gaza Strip

It seems a small number of Londoners have reached peak panic mode over not being able to drive quite so freely around some of the most polluted streets in Europe, comparing Low Traffic Neighbourhood schemes to war zones and genocide. 

The above conversation is in reference to plans to start camera enforcement around planters installed in London Fields, Hackney. Cllr Jon Burke said: "We don’t want to make a penny from Hackney’s drivers, but initial monitoring of London Fields filters shows that camera enforcement is necessary at the Cat and Mutton bridge to discourage drivers from ignoring closure signs. Creating cleaner, greener streets for everyone isn’t an easy process, but with among the highest road casualty and air pollution rate in the country, it is an absolutely necessary one."

An article from Wednesday's edition of the Ilford Recorder is also causing jaws to drop online, after a resident compared a LTN scheme in Barkingside to his father's experience as a Holocaust survivor. 

Warren Grynberg told the Ilford Recorder: “It’s all come back to me, I’m terrified of being locked in.

“When I’m in the car and I see a road closed sign, I feel horrified.

“It may sound ridiculous to someone in 2020 but that’s how I feel as a second-generation Holocaust survivor.”

A joint statement from Barkingside Labour Councillors recognised residents' 'fears' but added:  “We strongly encourage residents to take part in the public consultation exercise. 

“This really will influence the final location of the closures. We have three months to develop a really good scheme for South Barkingside”.

18 September 2020, 08:41
New poll from Transport for London shows majority in favour of Low Traffic Neighbourhoods

As tensions continue to build over the sudden appearance of cycle lanes and planters to stop rat-running drivers, TfL have found that despite the noise, most people are still in favour of Low Traffic Neighbourhood (LTN) schemes.

The representative survey of 1,007 Londoners found that 51% of people agreed with the implementation of LTNs in their local areas during the pandemic, and 51% also agreed that these should become long-term subject to consultation processes. Just 16% were against LTNs entirely. 

In another survey with a representative sample of 914 people, 81% agreed that cycling and walking are good for London, with 67% agreeing that there has 'never been a better time to take up cycling'. 

18 September 2020, 08:27
Jumbo-Visma team manager Merijn Zeeman excluded from Tour de France, after losing it with UCI staff checking Roglic' bike for 'technological fraud'
Primoz Roglic in action during the Criterium du Dauphiné Credit Cor Vos - 1.jpeg

The furore arose when the bike that Primoz Roglic was riding on yesterday's stage was take by UCI staff to perform X-ray control, that involves dismantling the bike to check for possible mechanical doping. 

Zeeman became incensed that the bike was damaged during the check, with the crankset needing to be replaced afterwards. In a statement from Jumbo-Visma, Zeeman said: “I got upset when the commissioner dismounted the crankset from Primoz's bike. We stand for a fair sport and that includes checks, but that must be done in a reasonable way. Despite that, I should have kept myself cool and approached the UCI commissioner in a more respectful way.”

The UCI say that Zeeman has been excluded for "intimidation, insults and improper behaviour of a team member towards a UCI member", and was also given a CHF 2,000 fine.

For the record, the check shown that the yellow jersey bike was in accordance with regulations. In their statement, the UCI added: "The UCI has made the fight against technological fraud one of its priorities to ensure the credibility of results, and calls on all cycling families (riders, teams and organisers) to join forces to ensure the reputation of our sport." 

Zeeman will be allowed to "remain part of the Tour de France team" according to Jumbo-Visma, but will not be able to perform official functions within accredited areas for the final three stages. 

Jack has been writing about cycling and multisport for over a decade, arriving at road.cc via 220 Triathlon Magazine in 2017. He worked across all areas of the website including tech, news and video, and also contributed to eBikeTips before being named Editor of road.cc in 2021 (much to his surprise). Jack has been hooked on cycling since his student days, and currently has a Trek 1.2 for winter riding, a beloved Bickerton folding bike for getting around town and an extra beloved custom Ridley Helium SLX for fantasising about going fast in his stable. Jack has never won a bike race, but does have a master's degree in print journalism and two Guinness World Records for pogo sticking (it's a long story). 

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massive4x4 | 4 years ago
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Solution for Rose set all bikes up the UK way, it is basically the correct way around, see also motorbikes.

While they are at it drive on the left, driving on the right kills a statistically detectable number of people because most people are right eye dominant and avoiding oncoming traffic is easier if you are on the right of the vehicle.

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NZ Vegan Rider replied to massive4x4 | 4 years ago
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You're right - the "correct" way.

Europe and the USA should up their game and change!

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werics replied to NZ Vegan Rider | 4 years ago
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Do you people also have your shifters backwards? Or is your front brake your rear shifter?

- Concerned American

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wycombewheeler replied to werics | 4 years ago
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werics wrote:

Do you people also have your shifters backwards? Or is your front brake your rear shifter? - Concerned American

most important brake and most important shifter, both on the dominant hand, why would you want it otherwise?

also f and r brake levers are the same but f and r shifters are different.

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RoadYeti replied to massive4x4 | 4 years ago
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I'm with you. I live in the US. Coming from a moto background I've always set my bikes up R front L rear.  Bonus points as it gives me an excuse not to let others ride my bike  : )

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Keesvant replied to massive4x4 | 4 years ago
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You are right about the motorbikes
But i think that the majorety of the world wins.. therefore the whole world should.
Drive on the right side of the road use the metric system and adapt to bikes set up the european way

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Nick T replied to massive4x4 | 4 years ago
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If you're right dominant you are a failed human specimen

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Nick T replied to massive4x4 | 4 years ago
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Also, motorbikes place the most important control, the clutch, on what should be the more skilled hand - the left

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spen | 4 years ago
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Anyone know if Warren Gynberg  is the person who posted this https://m.facebook.com/PolJewishRoots/posts/636517859741712/ in 2014.  Seems the impact of his family story has given him a warped view of the world if it is, its not a common name

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half_wheel79 | 4 years ago
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Does anyone else find Roses explanation utter BS ? Its not rocket science The cables or hoses are just swapped over ? How come their sytem can't flag a bike as being UK spec and a reminder to which way the brakes go ? Seems a pretty uncomplicated action for whoever wrote their system. We've just had something similar for our technicians when assembling tools, they can't physically proceed to the next step unless they verify on screen they've checked an item. Takes but a moment but does prompt them to do it.

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lio replied to half_wheel79 | 4 years ago
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It would be easier to believe them if they weren't still selling bikes to the Republic of Ireland with

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Zigster replied to lio | 4 years ago
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That's what I was going to add. If they ship to Ireland still then Rose's argument is nonsense. 

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Type17 replied to lio | 4 years ago
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RoI bike shop worker here. The difference is that the right/front, left/rear brake thing is law in the UK, but not the RoI, even though we also drive/cycle on the left, so there's nothing stopping Rose selling (Euro-spec) bikes here - we get a mix of UK & Euro-spec bikes, of all brands (the only differences are the brakes and spoke reflectors (1 white one, or two orange ones, per wheel)). Some brands only supply UK-spec bikes (Giant, Ridgeback) and others supply a mix (Treks might come from the UK or NL warehouses). If a customer wants the brakes changed on a drop-bar bike it's a pain (bar-tape and different cable/pipe lengths), so I can see Rose's point. It's also why many lower-volume cars were never made in RHD (Fiat Barchetta, Lancia Delta Integrale, BMW E30 M3, VW Golf G60, etc).

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STiG911 replied to half_wheel79 | 4 years ago
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Exactly!

'In the UK, bicycles are constructed differently than in the rest of Europe' - It's just a brake cable swap, FFS, it's not like the whole drive train is on the opposite side.

Yesus.

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HoarseMann replied to STiG911 | 4 years ago
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STiG911 wrote:

It's just a brake cable swap

more likely an internally routed hose these days

no more popping the cables out of the levers to flip the brakes

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Gkam84 replied to HoarseMann | 4 years ago
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HoarseMann wrote:

STiG911 wrote:

It's just a brake cable swap

more likely an internally routed hose these days

no more popping the cables out of the levers to flip the brakes

Correct, but it's just a case of switching the hoses and making sure you take any air out of the system. It's not complicated, many other companies like Merida and Cannondale ship them Euro style to bike shops who then have to change it around. Best to swap is Sram Guide and you just swap the whole lever over.

Direct to customer is a different story though if they aren't doing any assembly after they leave the factory in Asia. Then it's up to the customer.

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HoarseMann replied to half_wheel79 | 4 years ago
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I suspect they are not building to order anymore but just trying to generate stock as quickly as possible.

The pound has dropped in value again recently, so maybe the margins are not as good (certainly more fluctuating) than the euro. That and upcoming Brexit uncertainty, if they are struggling to meet demand as it is, you can see why the U.K. market got the chop.

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Rome73 replied to half_wheel79 | 4 years ago
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Is this bit pertinent? 

'As soon as we are done with the transition in our production and get more clarity about the future of doing business with the UK, we will look for a long-term solution'

You see, Rose (like all the German car industry, Italian Prosecco producers . . . ) should be 'begging' to do business with the UK. Shouldn't they?

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richliv | 4 years ago
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I got a wasp sting on my eye socket last week and I have holocaust survivors in my family. Do I get the prize and can that be a 2021 Trek Madone please? Just saying.

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Captain Badger replied to richliv | 4 years ago
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Beehive yourself!

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jh2727 | 4 years ago
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> that’s how I feel as a second-generation Holocaust survivor

I think it is a similar level of suffering.

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brooksby | 4 years ago
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On the Lukas Pöstlberger story: I had a wasp in my mouth the other evening.  I thought it was a leaf or some sort of 'tree debris' but I spat it out and it was a live f-ing wasp!  It scraped the inside of my mouth, I think (it was sore), but it didn't actually sting (I think).  I suspect the wasp was as startled as I had been.

(I've made a point of riding with my mouth firmly closed, ever since...).

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IanMK replied to brooksby | 4 years ago
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A couple of months back I too was stung on the tongue by what looked like a hornet as I spat it out. For the record I didn't have an allergic reaction and finished my 25mile evening tour de N Bucks. I still haven't perfected the technique of cycling with my mouth closed.

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Hirsute replied to brooksby | 4 years ago
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Last Friday, cycling home had a sudden pain on my shoulder. Stopped and had to disrobe (not a pretty sight). Wasp flew out when I shook out my top. The top has a quite a wide neck so it must have flown in that.
Took another 15 mins to get home where I demanded my wife for first aid and she promptly removed a barb. Hurt for ages to the extent it woke me up for the first 2 nights, leaving me to apply the anthisan in a hope to get back to sleep.

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to Hirsute | 4 years ago
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If there was a barb then it was probably a bee and not a wasp. 

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Hirsute replied to AlsoSomniloquism | 4 years ago
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I don't think they normally get trapped in your clothing or get force applied to them when you pull your tight top off !
(Barb was just generic, not sure if it is the correct term).

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NZ Vegan Rider replied to Hirsute | 4 years ago
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Stinger.

Sounds painful and annoying losing sleep ;-(

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Dingaling replied to brooksby | 4 years ago
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You were lucky then. About a month ago I was cycling along at a nice pace and was suddenly hit in the left corner of my mouth by "something". I instantly started to push and spit it out but was too slow. It stung me right in the corner on the outside of my mouth so the something was a wasp. For days I had a swollen left cheek as the swelling (poison) slowly sank to my bottom jaw. I had a bottom lip like an inner tube. I did take a picture to send to a mate but it was such an ugly mush I decided not to send it. In the meantime I am back to my usual handsome self.

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ktache replied to brooksby | 4 years ago
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A bee flew into my mouth/I sucked it into my mouth on my first fun ride since starting work, on my first day off, mid july, large and rough, spat it out quick, but it had already stung the roof of my mouth, and left it's sting in.  Managed to scrape it out.  Spent the rest of next bit of the ride worrying about anaphalatic shock, luckily didn't happen, but did swell up a bit.  Made me feel really odd for the rest of the day and the next.

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RobD | 4 years ago
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Am I missing something with LTNs? they only close a road at one end don't they? It's not like they're putting in resident only gates etc at each end of the road. I really don't get the fuss, these are small local roads aren't they? so it's not like anyone is having to drive very far to get around them.

I'd suggest that the gentleman who feels horrified at a road closed sign gets some professional help, that's no way to live your life.

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