Hell hath no fury like a Colombian cycling fan scorned, it seems.
Last week, you may remember (if you reach back through the weekend’s chocolatey, Ronde-filled haze), former Giro d’Italia and Vuelta a España winner Nairo Quintana came in for some considerable stick from his podcast-wielding colleagues in the peloton.
First, Bahrain Victorious veteran Wout Poels, speaking on the In Koers podcast he hosts with Visma-Lease a Bike rider Dylan van Baarle, claimed that Quintana had elbowed him and acted “aggressively” while battling for position on a climb at the Volta a Catalunya, prompting Poels to joke that the Colombian Movistar rider was “definitely on tramadol again”.
> “Maybe I shouldn’t have said it but he was stupid enough to use it in the Tour”: “Aggressive” Nairo Quintana asked if he was “on tramadol again” by Wout Poels during Volta a Catalunya spat – as Dutch rider claims he was also punched by Iván García Cortina
And on the Geraint Thomas Cycling Club podcast – recorded before Poels’ anecdote was released to the public – the Dutch rider’s old Sky teammates, 2018 Tour winner Thomas and Luke Rowe, also made a less than subtle dig at Quintana during a discussion about possible contenders for this year’s Giro.
“He shouldn’t even be racing,” Thomas said when the 34-year-old’s name popped up, a reference – assumed by many on social media – to Quintana’s recent troubles with the anti-doping authorities, including his tramadol-related disqualification from the 2022 Tour de France (and subsequent dismissal by Arkéa Samsic), a few hotel raids during his spell at the French squad, and the recent revelation that his former doctor is due to go on trial in France later this year for alleged criminal doping offences related to his time with Quintana.
“I know. Little f***ing rat,” Rowe agreed, eliciting a few laughs, before the podcast was moved swiftly on to safer ground.
Of course, the Ineos Grenadiers’ Welsh duo have been known for making blunt assessments, rapidly discarded as jokes (just ask Remco Evenepoel), on their podcast.
But Thomas and Rowe – whose Ineos team, some Nairo fans pointed out, haven’t been immune from anti-doping investigations, especially in their previous guise as Sky – probably weren’t expecting the levels of backlash they received from disgruntled Quintana advocates on social media, who branded the comments a product of “British supremacy and hypocrisy”.
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“Team Sky riders pointing fingers at others... heh, the irony,” wrote Louis, while Robinson branded Thomas and Rowe a “pair of clowns”.
“Well, nobody knows who Luke Rowe is to be honest,” said JC (not the Easter-related one, I presume), evoking the classic football fan response to criticism of their favourite player.
“When was respect between riders lost in this way?” asked Juan, while Nestor described Rowe as “persona non grata in Colombia”. Yikes…
“It was disgraceful,” added Maria. “And not even an apology afterwards?
“I’ve never been a fan of Thomas or Ineos and with these comments, that’s it for me. I am a huge fan of Quintana. Am I biased? Of course! That doesn’t make what GT and LR did acceptable in any way.”
Even outside Colombian cycling circles, the response to Thomas and Rowe’s comments were mixed, to say the least.
Cycling YouTuber Benji Naesen said: “I like the beef, but it was highly ironical to hear a rider who was part of the team where Richard Freeman was active, say that Quintana shouldn’t be in the sport because he took a product that wasn’t even on the doping list.”
“I’m Colombian but I’m not mad because of it,” said Marcela. “I just think that ‘rat’ expression is highly offensive regardless the rider. They might have said it as a joke but I can’t find anything to laugh about.”
“Was listening and thought it was a bit much for a mainstream podcast,” agreed Drew McKinley.
“It’s a disgrace regardless of any nationality or patriotism,” wrote Egan van der Poel (not his real name, I imagine). “I’ve never heard a cyclist referring to a colleague in such a horrible way.”
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However, others weren’t as willing to condemn Thomas and Rowe for their typically blunt appraisal.
“Honestly I think this gets blown out of proportion here, two British guys who call Remco a bastard every week or try to start drama in the Belgian press don’t mean something like that seriously,” wrote Leo, while Jeffry said: “To be fair based on other podcasts probably 70 per cent the peloton has that opinion.”
Nevertheless, the backlash was sufficient enough for the section to be quietly removed from the podcast episode, never to be spoken of again…
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Note to Messers Thomas and Rowe, you have been reported for a hate crime here in Scotland.
Please ensure you never set foot in this totalitarian land or you will be arrested and jailed for seven years.
Unfortunately "cyclist" is not a protected characteristic
Obviously you don't do sarcasm..
Anyhoos, they have misgendered him, as he is quite clearly not a rat, and that does fall into the stupid farce.
Remember, if it is read in Scotland, it has happened in Scotland, therefore...
... therefore, er... what?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-68712471
Until several things go to court, we won't know of course how m'learned friends will interpret things (and it's always possible for people to have a quiet word with them at the club) ... but if that could put a dampener on paranoia I hope it would.
Sadly this whole topic seems to be kryptonite for civil discourse (or red meat for those "thirsty for controversy" / "campaigning for justice / our existence / to stop being even lower than second class citizens", pick your description) so I'm sure we'll continue to read about it.
Isn't "rat'' like an officially recognized UK-wide synonym for "cyclist'' these days? like, "sorry I'm late, boss. all them rats in lycra on the road slowed me down on the way here.''
In fact they misspecied him, given that everyone knows he's actually a singing chamaeleon. Not sure whether that falls under the new act though.
I'm surprised we don't see more chamaeleons performing on stage
I wondered what the BBC did with their leftover Doctor Who costumes…
Looks just like a Fomori from 'The Leisure Hive'
God forbid people are held accountable for denying people's right to exist.
Wasn't it God that denied all the dinosaurs?
Why the dinosaurs went extinct, part 2:
Possibly - God's on record as being both very particular about a vast array of things and getting quite irate about rule infractions [1] [2].
To compensate, God does appear to have an inordinate fondness for beetles.
Watch out for new white van man - cutting you up at every opportunity
...and parking in the cycle lane...
It's a Fair Cop
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001xws4
Looked at a bike thief last night. Humerous vein to it all and great cameo from a Met DC !