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No, you have to make a note of the article. Other forums allow you to click on a name and see what was posted.

A bit frustrating when searching for articles that you have commented on such as the one where the thief uses a angle grinder and it is all over in about 20s.

hirsute wrote:

No, you have to make a note of the article. Other forums allow you to click on a name and see what was posted.

A bit frustrating when searching for articles that you have commented on such as the one where the thief uses a angle grinder and it is all over in about 20s.

I'd like to find the infamous helmet thread with over 500 comments.

There is only one?

ktache wrote:

There is only one?

Are you Connor MacLeod?

Where I live, most people park on the pavement to preserve their wing mirrors. Nothing more.
You can't fit 2 cars past them so the only outcome is damaging the pavement and causing a nuisance to pedestrians.
You still haven't explained how anyone parks on the pavement without driving on it. But that is no surprise.

Nigel Garrage wrote:

I didn't mention driving, I wrote parking, for which the Highway Code clearly states is legal (outside London). The problem (generally) is that there isn't adequate off-road parking in the UK, and roads are too narrow generally. This leads to little alternative but to park partially on the pavement out of politeness and courtesy - it avoids obstructing the highway. You can blame governments of all colours for allowing this to happen, but we are where we are.

The same constraints don't exist for the nefarious activity of cycling on the pavement. There would (of course) be popular outrage if people started driving cars down footpaths and pedestrian zones in the same dangerous manner that a small minority of cyclists do.

Also - we are cyclists! We can only control what we can control, and it's important to project a sensible and upstanding image to society, to promote safe cycling and show the general population - who may be relunctant to get on their bike - that it can be done with decorum and civility.

On criminality, the Road Traffic Act 1991 defacto 'decriminalised' the offence of parking on the footway, passing enforcement from the police to the local authority in question. You can read more about it on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decriminalised_parking_enforcement. South Yorkshire police confirmed via a freedom of information request that they do not deal with such matters due to this legislation, and have instead handed matters over to the local authorities.

You can also read a written reply from a Mr Carlton Reid (who I believe is a radical pro-cycling activist) at https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201314/cmselect/cmtran/writev/pa... which confirms the above.

 

Difficult to park your car without driving it I would have thought...

Very good but...... From what I can find you can only drive 15yds and only mount the pavement at a dropped kerb so if a car is parked more than 15yds from a dropped kerb this wouldn't be possible would it?.

The Highway Code does not say that though

rule 244

You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London, and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs or with visual impairments and people with prams or pushchairs.

Good luck with other offences such as red light jumping, overtaking on double white lines where your engine is switched off.

Nigel Garrage wrote:

Many commentators have posed the question "how can you park a car on the pavement without driving it on the pavement?" or words to that effect. Now to the uninitiated and hard of thought I do agree this would seem to be an insurmountable problem, but clearly there must be a solution otherwise why would the highway code state that that it is legal to park on the pavement outside London? The solution requires a little lateral thinking. We know that it's illegal to drive on the pavement under normal circumstances, but that it isn't illegal to drive over the pavement to access private property. We also know that it isn't illegal to park on someone else's drive but is merely a civil matter. Armed with this information, in order to park on the pavement without breaking the law, I simply enter the pavement zone with the intention of driving onto private property, change my mind and reposition my car tangentially. I then switch off the engine and allow the car through its own momentum (without driving it) to come to its correct parking position, applying the handbrake with a final flourish.

What was it for breakfast today Nige? Waffle again?

Nigel Garrage wrote:

Branflakes with raisins, followed by a banana. Plenty of fibre for a poo to reduce body weight prior to my ride.

That explains it. Have a great ride dude.

Captain Badger wrote:

 Difficult to park your car without driving it I would have thought...

Oh for deity's sake. Parking and driving have specific definitions in law. It is legal to park on the pavement (where applicable), and not legal to drive. Parking includes the manoeuvring necessary to park. It does not include 'driving'. 

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/18/part/6

Dave Dave wrote:

Captain Badger wrote:

 Difficult to park your car without driving it I would have thought...

Oh for deity's sake. Parking and driving have specific definitions in law. It is legal to park on the pavement (where applicable), and not legal to drive. Parking includes the manoeuvring necessary to park. It does not include 'driving'. 

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/18/part/6

 

Hi Dave, y'right?

Pavement parking is an offence enforced by the police the RTA 1991 act is  related to car parking enforcement on the road not pavements where the offence is under Regulation 103 of The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986. PAvement parking creates a great deal of anguish and difficulty for people with disabilities or pushing prams or just everyone. It has little to do with no facilities, many car drivers park on the pavement regardless of the circumstances and need, where no parking exists then adequate parking would exist a short distance away.  In many ways enforcement does need transferring to local councils as the police have little inclination or resource to enforce. On average 40 people a year are killed by motor cars on pavements and many more seriously injuried.

Quite, I would suggest everyone clicks the link and read the whole thread, not just the highlighted ones. 

However, slight nit picking but  he praises the four people who helped him initially  "Somehow, with these four strangers help, I was moved off the busy High St". Good job that he didn't have a spinal injury, maybe he was "walking wounded" but if he wasn't, how much was his concern and how much was "woah, he is in the way of other traffic". 

Interesting post. But is it kind to carry over irrelevant baggage from previous days? I'd rather these little skirmishes were laid to rest with the setting sun.

Sriracha wrote:

Interesting post. But is it kind to carry over irrelevant baggage from previous days? I'd rather these little skirmishes were laid to rest with the setting sun.

I shall accede to your eloquently presented point and edit. Except for the Columbo bit - I'm a something of a Falkie on the quiet...

You're a gentleman, Captain Badger.

Just one more thing...

Did you know that Bing Crosby was originally going to play Columbo but he preferred to play golf instead

Is there a reason for that ? TdF didn't like it or they not fill in the UCI paperwork like EF pro did last year, as I dont understand why youd create a kit to honour Van der Poels grandfather, which is a great idea lots of sponsor coverage, and just wear it at the team presentation and then literally never speak of it again.