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Impatient driver hits cyclist after rushing overtake...but it's not his fault (apparently); Doull's ink-redible tattoo mishap; What's Cav scared of?; You shall not pass!; Alaphilippe's sweaty pain cave; Cyclocross VAR; Cool new app + more on the live blog

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29 November 2021, 16:43
Wine, beards and cycling...a hipster's paradise
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Not quite as intimidating as a gangster's paradise...

29 November 2021, 15:39
Taking n+1 to the nth degree (two n's for the price of one)
29 November 2021, 15:09
Cav proud to have Quick-Step's 800th win but takes more pleasure from Fabio Jakobsen's comeback
2021 Mark Cavendish Tour of Turkey Stage 2 Victory - credit Stuart Franklin Getty Images

Cast your minds back to April, before the disbelief and emotion of the Tour de France, when, at the Tour of Turkey, Mark Cavendish won his first bike race for more than three years, then he won again the next day, and the day after that, and once more four days after that...it was a sign of things to come at the Tour, but also his team Deceuninck-Quick-Step's 800th win — a milestone befitting one of the sport's most decorated names.

"It was an unforgettable week for us and it goes without saying that I was extremely proud to have racked up the team’s 800th victory," Cav reflected on the success which kickstarted one of the most significant seasons of his career. "Just when you think about this, it’s mind-blowing. This team is always there, fighting for the win in every race, and this achievement says a lot about the mentality and ambition of being among the best teams in the world. That’s another reason why being part of this family is an honour for me.

"But to be completely sincere, the most important thing about that day wasn’t my stage victory and the milestone we reached together, but the fact Fabio made it so far into the stage. It was his first race with the squad since Poland and having him there, doing a phenomenal job, working hard and enjoying racing was just beautiful and emotional at the same time. That motivated me to finish it off."

Cavendish is back home in Essex recovering from a crash at the Ghent Six Day which left the Manx Missile in hospital with broken ribs and a punctured lung. Over the weekend he revealed the impact had ripped a hole behind his heart.

29 November 2021, 15:04
So you think you know how a bike works...

Pretty impressive this is the eighth highest trending video on YouTube at the moment with more than two million views in the last 24 hours...think you know how a bike works?

29 November 2021, 14:49
Catnip 303s or DT Swhiskers? Feline like a new set of wheels...

You've checked the road.cc wheelset guide, but don't forget to consult your four-legged friend before grabbing yourself a Cyber Monday upgrade... 

29 November 2021, 14:17
Mr Tickle riding a bicycle...+ all the rest of the reaction to our main live blog story of the day

Right, let's kick off the afternoon with some reaction to our big story of the day...THAT video of a motorist colliding with a cyclist before making some questionable claims in the argument that followed...

Stuart Spencer said the Merc driver's logic is the perfect example of "the sense of entitlement that has invaded so much of society today."

On Facebook, Jackie Fraser said she had experienced something similar..."I once had a driver complete a high speed u turn into me, and then berate me about his paintwork."

Seems a decent time to pull up this exchange between the driver and cyclist in the clip..."Bro, that's my property..."..."Yeah, this is my life..."

Liam Pike commented: "He knows he is too close and just wants to have a pop at the cyclists. You don't rush a overtake like that and spend six mins arguing about."

Plenty of discussion under the live blog too...

BigE said: "Surely if driver gives 1.5m as in Highway Code cyclist would not be able to touch the car!"

Mungecrundle added: "Mercedes Man - The old 'It's your own fault, you forced me to overtake when it was dangerous to do so' routine. I'm not sure if this is some sort of Vulcan mind link thing that cyclists use to force bad driving or some sort of remote control over vehicle steering and speed functions."

And one final thought from wycombe wheeler, "I'd hate to be a delivery driver if people react like this to people knocking on their doors. Or is it just car doors that are super sensitive?"

29 November 2021, 12:57
Who'll be getting one of these for Christmas?
29 November 2021, 12:21
Winning Olympic gold is a day you'll never forget...or not...Owain fooled by wrong date tattoo
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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It's a very popular trend these days — Olympic Games tattoos. A permanent reminder that you achieved the pinnacle of your sport. A memory, achievement and ink-based memento that will be there forever...

Poor Owain Doull made a bit of a mishap, however, when getting his date of glory inked on his arm...the mistake? Doull won gold on the 12th of August, not the 13th.

The Welsh cyclist, who is leaving Ineos Grenadiers for EF Education-Nippo this winter, told his soon-to-be ex-teammates Geraint Thomas and Luke Rowe all about the blunder on their Watts Occuring podcast...

"I was super happy with it and thought it looked sick. I put a photo of it on Instagram. And then there were comments that said ‘did you not win the Olympics on the 12th?'

"My tattoo said the 13th. I was like ‘this guy doesn’t know what he is talking about - delete that comment.’ Another guy comments ‘you sure that is right date’ and by the third guy I thought I should check this now and turns out I was wrong."

Apparently the team pursuit gold medallist has since been back to get the error fixed. Changing a three back to a two sounds like it could be tricky though. Seven to nine, one to nine, three to eight — no problem, but three to two? We'll reserve judgement until we've seen the before and after photos...

29 November 2021, 11:45
CycleBump: How smooth is your route?
CycleBump

Some of the details here are a little sketchy considering our reliance on Google to translate Japanese but there now appears to be an app for measuring and viewing bumpiness of roads. Could we soon see Komoot and others giving you the smoothest possible ride option?

BumpRecorder was originally designed for use in cars, but has now also released the CycleBump, an app that measures road surface conditions. According to the app's website it has already accumulated 3.4 million kilometers of road surface ratings, allowing users to check the unevenness of roads before heading out the door.

29 November 2021, 11:33
Cyclocross VAR: Was there contact?

Let's slow that one down and get Roy Keane and Jamie Carragher to go at eachother...

Ultimately it didn't matter as Eli Iserbyt held off Toon Aerts on the final lap to win the World Cup event in Besançon by ten seconds. But what do we reckon? Foul? Yellow card? He was the last man...it could be red. 

29 November 2021, 10:49
Cav's banana phobia

Wise idea to avoid banana peels if you want to stay upright...

29 November 2021, 10:31
You shall not pass! A Monday blocked bike lane bonanza

We've enough blocked bike lane content to last the rest of the week...from fallen trees to a badly parked Vauxhall (and some help from Mother Nature). First up, in Manchester, where the snow has been making some wonder if the council could not give cycle lanes the same treatment as the roads...

And it's not just here in the UK...

The solution?

At least the snow gave an easy way of getting this message across...

Sophie said her hands were too cold to hang around for the 'and pavement' follow up. It even got a shout-out from Badly Parked Brum, an account dedicated to the art of badly parked vehicles in the Second City. You Park Like a C*** also gave it a retweet...we're sure that account is pretty self-explanatory...

And how about this one? 

Those guerilla cyclists must have been out chopping down trees again... 

29 November 2021, 10:04
A world champion's pain cave...Julian Alaphilippe shows off his sparkly winter set-up

A seasoned indoor trainer user, editor Jack's first reaction to Julian Alaphilippe's pain cave was to wonder if the world champ sweats? No towel or fan seems like a fast track to puddles and salty bar tape. In fairness, we've heard being unable to sweat is a pretty serious medical condition often accompanied by memorable trips to Pizza Express in Woking.

Also, if we're going to be really picky, has a world champion on the road earned the right to a rainbow band trainer? I know, I know, nobody wants another do you have to earn the rainbow bands argument...but if the answer's 'you have to earn it' then should the rainbow trainer be reserved solely for virtual world champs? Yes, I'm aware the actual correct answer to this paragraph is 'who gives a *insert expletive*?'...

This time last year, during lockdown, we had readers from around the world send in their pain cave pictures, and boy did you lot deliver...if you need some home trainer inspiration check out our 16 of the best lockdown pain caves and turbo training set ups feature.

29 November 2021, 08:49
Impatient driver hits cyclist after rushing overtake...but it's not his fault (apparently)

Perhaps if everybody had just seen their side, as recommended by TfL, this driver hitting a cyclist wouldn't have caused a roadside debate. Interestingly the driver's main concern seemed to be the rider touching his property..."Bro, that's my property..."..."Yeah, this is my life..." pretty much sums up the road safety stakes...

With a bit more explaining..."What I'm saying to you there is a car on the other side of the road, you're not on the edge..." the motorist tried to make the case for that pesky bike rider getting out of his more important Mercedes' way.

> Transport for London slammed for “victim-blaming” road safety ad (+ video)

And here we are..."So what, I have to drive slowly for you?" Ermmm yeah, pretty much. "Bro, you're lucky I'm controlling myself, I should be kicking your bike right now." How very considerate...

Mercedes man continued to show a surprising amount of disgust about someone hitting his car considering said car had just been driven into another road user...perhaps in true 'See their side' spirit, the pair exchanged apologies and got on with their journeys...oh wait, no, here we go again...

Mercedes man: "It would be a beautiful world if everyone took consideration, but just protect yourself first..."

The cyclist explained in the description of the video on YouTube that the incident was reported to Met Police and went to court, but was dismissed.

Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too.

Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he's not working you'll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he'll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he's a bit strange like that.

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chrisonabike replied to Sriracha | 3 years ago
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Sriracha wrote:

Indeed sanctioned. But nowt wrong with it. It's just that it could end up conveying either of two opposed meanings. I'm told that the editor of one august journal was in the habit of replying to the legions of hopefuls that he would "waste no time in reading their paper". Clearly such behaviour should be sanctioned.

You may say it was a truly remarkable overtake. But the driver's word is worth its weight in gold...

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eburtthebike replied to Sriracha | 3 years ago
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Sriracha wrote:
Captain Badger wrote:

this was an illegal and dangerous over take, and should have been sanctioned.

Is there a special name for words which effectively mean their own opposite?

Oxymoron is useful.

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hawkinspeter replied to eburtthebike | 3 years ago
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eburtthebike wrote:

Sriracha wrote:

Is there a special name for words which effectively mean their own opposite?

Oxymoron is useful.

Oxymoron is for phrases such as "progressive conservatives" or "careful close pass".

Contronyms are words that have multiple, contradictory meanings such as "fast" or "dust".

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eburtthebike replied to hawkinspeter | 3 years ago
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hawkinspeter wrote:

eburtthebike wrote:

Sriracha wrote:

Is there a special name for words which effectively mean their own opposite?

Oxymoron is useful.

Oxymoron is for phrases such as "progressive conservatives" or "careful close pass".

Contronyms are words that have multiple, contradictory meanings such as "fast" or "dust".

Oxymoron applies to both words and phrases.

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hawkinspeter replied to eburtthebike | 3 years ago
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eburtthebike wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

Oxymoron is for phrases such as "progressive conservatives" or "careful close pass".

Contronyms are words that have multiple, contradictory meanings such as "fast" or "dust".

Oxymoron applies to both words and phrases.

Fun fact, oxymoron is autological in that the word itself is an oxymoron.

Nerdy fact, J. R. R. Tolkien interpreted his own surname as derived from the Low German equivalent of dull-keen (High German toll-kühn) which would be a literal equivalent of Greek oxy-moron.

However, "fast" and "dust" are contronyms and not oxymorons.

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mdavidford replied to hawkinspeter | 3 years ago
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But is 'autological' autological?

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hawkinspeter replied to mdavidford | 3 years ago
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mdavidford wrote:

But is 'autological' autological?

Yes and no, but more importantly, is "heterological" heterological?

(Heterological being the opposite, words that don't describe themselves such as "long", or "hyphenated")

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mdavidford replied to hawkinspeter | 3 years ago
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Or 'unrepeatable'.

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mdavidford replied to mdavidford | 3 years ago
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Or 'unrepeatable'.

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hawkinspeter replied to mdavidford | 3 years ago
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For bonus points, try to find a pair of co-autological words where one describes the other such as "autological" and "pentasyllabic".

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mdavidford replied to hawkinspeter | 3 years ago
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Well, following your lead, 'long' and 'monosyllabic' would work quite nicely.

What do I win?

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hawkinspeter replied to mdavidford | 3 years ago
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mdavidford wrote:

Well, following your lead, 'long' and 'monosyllabic' would work quite nicely.

What do I win?

Good job!

You win a picture of a squirrel with a dictionary! (Save it and squirrel it away somewhere)

//images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/an-educated-squirrel-peggy-collins.jpg)

(I'm not sure that co-autological is a real thing, so I don't know if both words have to describe both words in which case your example wouldn't work)

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mdavidford replied to hawkinspeter | 3 years ago
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Cool - I'll file it between my squid and my squirtles.

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wycombewheeler replied to BigE | 3 years ago
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BigE wrote:

Surely if driver gives 1.5m as in Highway Code cyclist would not be able to touch the car! 
 

Judging by how sleeves are often too long for me, I realise my arms are shorter than average. But I have measured them at 0.6mm 0.6m, I don't think other people have arms twice as long as me.

Maybe if the cyclist was an orang utan they might reach at 1.5m

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mdavidford replied to wycombewheeler | 3 years ago
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wycombewheeler wrote:

I realise my arms are shorter than average. But I have measured them at 0.6mm

What calipers are you using?

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wycombewheeler replied to mdavidford | 3 years ago
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crap, I should have left it as 600mm instead of deciding to change to 0.6m

 

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hawkinspeter replied to wycombewheeler | 3 years ago
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wycombewheeler wrote:

Judging by how sleeves are often too long for me, I realise my arms are shorter than average. But I have measured them at 0.6mm, I don't think other people have arms twice as long as me.

Maybe if the cyclist was an orang utan they might reach at 1.5m

Not meaning to body-shame, but those are very short arms.

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wycombewheeler replied to hawkinspeter | 3 years ago
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hawkinspeter wrote:

wycombewheeler wrote:

Judging by how sleeves are often too long for me, I realise my arms are shorter than average. But I have measured them at 0.6mm, I don't think other people have arms twice as long as me.

Maybe if the cyclist was an orang utan they might reach at 1.5m

Not meaning to body-shame, but those are very short arms.

even for a squirrel

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hawkinspeter replied to wycombewheeler | 3 years ago
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wycombewheeler wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

Not meaning to body-shame, but those are very short arms.

even for a squirrel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abcOw2lHorI

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chrisonabike | 3 years ago
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@TamesideCouncil - there’s a pavement and a cycle path under here. Right outside Guide Bridge station. What’s your suggestion for walking /cycling to/from the station?

Drive.

I do like the comment about keeping cars out of the bike lane, like snowploughs. Maybe call the council and say you're unable to park / elderly relative can't reach your car / cannot deliver a takeaway or box set. Might get some action.

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StuInNorway | 3 years ago
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"I was past you when you hit my (rear door side) window" ?????

How long were the cyclists arms ? Mr Tickle on a bike ?

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wycombewheeler replied to StuInNorway | 3 years ago
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StuInNorway wrote:

"I was past you when you hit my (rear door side) window" ?????

How long were the cyclists arms ? Mr Tickle on a bike ?

in the mind of the driver, once the bonnet is ahead they are past, and it is down to the cyclist to get out of the way

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to wycombewheeler | 3 years ago
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Also in the mind of at least two posters on here. Hence their insistance that vehicles have fully overtaken cyclists when they are still level. 

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AidanR | 3 years ago
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I'm waiting for Nige to turn up and tell us why the cyclist is in the wrong.

Edit: damn, animated gifs don't work

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Alessandro | 3 years ago
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What an asshole. In a rush but had 5mins to argue why he had to almost knock the guy off his bike and it also looks as though he's not bothered about other aspects of the law as well. 

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ratherbeintobago replied to Alessandro | 3 years ago
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No insurance either on askMID.

I don't know why there isn't a national portal to quickly report these things.

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Rendel Harris replied to ratherbeintobago | 3 years ago
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Not defending the driver, who is clearly an asshole as noted, but the timestamp on the video is February 21 2020, so the vehicle may have been sold on or (quite possibly given his driving) totalled since then.

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capedcrusader replied to ratherbeintobago | 3 years ago
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A bit of a pattern - no MOT, no Insurance, no road tax - emerging over the past few months, leads me to believe the quickest and most effective way of ending disputes is to offer to make a call to the 'Feds' - as I am reliably informed by junior, is the collequial term for PC Plod these days in the hood - which should deescalate matters rather rapidly.

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bikeman01 replied to ratherbeintobago | 3 years ago
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ratherbeintobago wrote:

No insurance either on askMID.

I don't know why there isn't a national portal to quickly report these things.

 

Did you think to check before posting this comment?

https://www.gov.uk/report-untaxed-vehicle

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wycombewheeler replied to Alessandro | 3 years ago
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Alessandro wrote:

What an asshole. In a rush but had 5mins to argue why he had to almost knock the guy off his bike and it also looks as though he's not bothered about other aspects of the law as well. 

Video dated February 2021, so unless you now the same person still owns the car and still drives it.......

As the driver clearly drives like a knob, the car might well have been written off by now.

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