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AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

Re Owain Doull: He could have probably got away with it by adding GMT to the tattoo. 

A pedant writes: he won his team pursuit gold around 7PM Rio time; Rio is (somewhat surprisingly) only three hours behind GMT, so he still took the medal on August 12th English time. I really, really must get out more.

Rendel Harris wrote:

AlsoSomniloquism wrote:

Re Owain Doull: He could have probably got away with it by adding GMT to the tattoo. 

A pedant writes: he won his team pursuit gold around 7PM Rio time; Rio is (somewhat surprisingly) only three hours behind GMT, so he still took the medal on August 12th English time. I really, really must get out more.

3 hours behind now? or 3 hours behind in August when UK clocks will have gone forward and Brazil's might have gone backwards.

Brazil doesn't observe daylight saving time now but it did in 2016, putting the clocks an hour forward in February and an hour back in November, so in August would have still been three hours behind UK time.

Is that an African or a European Swallow?

It's perfectly simple. If you're not getting your hair cut, you don't have to move your brother's clothes down to the lower peg. You simply collect his note before lunch, after you've done your scripture prep, when you've written your letter home, before rest, move your own clothes onto the lower peg, greet the visitors, and report to Mr. Viney that you've had your chit signed.

Rendel Harris wrote:

Brazil doesn't observe daylight saving time now but it did in 2016, putting the clocks an hour forward in February and an hour back in November, so in August would have still been three hours behind UK time.

no, as they are in the southern hemisphere they would have put their clocks back in February and forward in November.

So, as with Austrailia the time difference from the UK varied by 2 hours summer to winter.

However, the last change was at the end of their summer putting their clocks back, so they are currently on the same time they would have been during the Olympics. (UTC-3) But the UK would have been at UTC+1 in our summer (when the Olympics happened). So during the Olympics the time difference would have been 4 hours.

Still leaving the event on the 12th of August.

wycombewheeler wrote:

Still leaving the event on the 12th of August.

He could still have just added 'UTC+3' to the tattoo...

bikeman01 wrote:

It's such a shame that thanks to easy finance anyone can now drive a Mercedes. I remember when driving a Merc meant something.

Ooooh it still does......

Captain Badger wrote:

bikeman01 wrote:

It's such a shame that thanks to easy finance anyone can now drive a Mercedes. I remember when driving a Merc meant something.

Ooooh it still does......

It definitely means SOMETHING...

"The answers were unambiguous: self-centred men who are argumentative, stubborn, disagreeable and unempathetic are much more likely to own a high-status car such as an Audi, BMW or Mercedes."

https://www.helsinki.fi/en/news/good-society/fast-and-furious-research-s...

The argument is probabmatic. If I get time later, I'll put a counter argument forward.

Also, is the vehical in the vid particularly 'high status'?

There's plenty of BMWs, Mecrs and Audi's out there that I wouldn't considered high status, not even close, many are just aging ****, with chipped and poorly modded engines.

Appalling driving in the vid, and the drivers interpretation and evaluation of the highway code is very odd. It's almost like he's never read it?

Owd Big 'Ead wrote:

Prick would have been picking his teeth up off the floor if he'd tried that on me. Utter arsehole. A good shoeing might actually make him learn something.

Did you not see the empathy memo that went round?

Sod the memo.

TfL once again show that they have no idea what it's like being a cyclist around motorists hell-bent on MGIF.

They are very much part of the problem, not the solution.

He needs a slap for the constant use of 'bro'. That alone would be enough to tip me over the edge 

I'm glad he kept his cool. The exchange shows how ill-informed the driver is. Perhaps if TfL see it they'll understand that road safety is better served by education of the the rules rather than showing empathy for ignorant and dangerous dicks.

IanMK wrote:

I'm glad he kept his cool. The exchange shows how ill-informed the driver is. Perhaps if TfL see it they'll understand that road safety is better served by education of the the rules rather than showing empathy for ignorant and dangerous dicks.

Sounds like the empathy is strong in this one. Indeed Owd Big 'Ead is practically channelling the driver...

Owd Big 'Ead wrote:

Prick would have been picking his teeth up off the floor if he'd tried that on me. Utter arsehole. A good shoeing might actually make him learn something.

"And if that Jean-Claude van Damme came 'round 'ere, with his mayonnaise all over his chips and showing off his well-oiled biceps, then I'd be 'Oi!  van Damme!  Do not come here with your adulterated chips, instead of salt and vinegar like God intended, and go give yourself a proper wash'.  Grrrr..."

Owd Big 'Ead wrote:

Prick would have been picking his teeth up off the floor if he'd tried that on me. Utter arsehole. A good shoeing might actually make him learn something.

Right, and what then happens when they pull a knife or a gun? Or if you achieve your aim and end up facing court yourself? The rider handled this exactly right I thought, didn't back down, made his points forcefully and clearly but didn't give the idiot the excuse to escalate that he quite clearly would have been happy to have.

Horses for courses Rendel.

Have you ever had anyone pull a knife, or gun on you while cycling? No, thought not.

We all deal with these situations in different ways and fair play to the cyclist for keeping his shit together.

Unfortunately for me, I'm not that cool headed, I'm far more likely to deal with the situation first, then worry about the consequences after.

I've tried the 'be nice' routine before and got nowhere. For me, going nuclear from the get go seems to get the message across in a way they won't forget anytime soon.

Owd Big 'Ead wrote:

Horses for courses Rendel.

Have you ever had anyone pull a knife, or gun on you while cycling? No, thought not.

We all deal with these situations in different ways and fair play to the cyclist for keeping his shit together.

Unfortunately for me, I'm not that cool headed, I'm far more likely to deal with the situation first, then worry about the consequences after.

I've tried the 'be nice' routine before and got nowhere. For me, going nuclear from the get go seems to get the message across in a way they won't forget anytime soon.

 

I've had someone threaten me with a knife from the passenger seat, yes, fortunately we were both moving and I shot off down a sidestreet sharpish, and I was mugged at knifepoint whilst cycling once (in Bath, of all places!). An atrocious number of people do carry knives, particularly young people, is it worth taking a gamble on whether they have one or not? Equally, is it worth risking a prison sentence (possibly a huge one, more than one person has gone down for manslaughter after a single punch) by "going nuclear" on someone? 

Owd Big 'Ead wrote:

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Have you ever had anyone pull a knife, or gun on you while cycling? >

If they did, I'd give them a SLAP. Oi knife wielding thug! NO!.... etc etc....

BigE wrote:

Surely if driver gives 1.5m as in Highway Code cyclist would not be able to touch the car! 
 

You are correct in practical terns re 1.5 m, except that it isn't mentioned in the highway code. However most of the rules between 162 - 169 would scream that this was an illegal and dangerous over take, and should have been sanctioned.

Captain Badger wrote:

this was an illegal and dangerous over take, and should have been sanctioned.

Is there a special name for words which effectively mean their own opposite?

Sriracha wrote:

Captain Badger wrote:

this was an illegal and dangerous over take, and should have been sanctioned.

Is there a special name for words which effectively mean their own opposite?

You mean is "illegal" like "inflammable" / "flammable" in that it often apparently means the same as "legal"?

Sriracha wrote:

Captain Badger wrote:

this was an illegal and dangerous over take, and should have been sanctioned.

Is there a special name for words which effectively mean their own opposite?

Contronyms.

Sriracha wrote:

Captain Badger wrote:

this was an illegal and dangerous over take, and should have been sanctioned.

Is there a special name for words which effectively mean their own opposite?

Aaaaarrgghgh it's already been a long week...

sanctioned? if so yes, I hesitated before using it

Captain Badger wrote:

Sriracha wrote:

Captain Badger wrote:

this was an illegal and dangerous over take, and should have been sanctioned.

Is there a special name for words which effectively mean their own opposite?

Aaaaarrgghgh it's already been a long week...

sanctioned? if so yes, I hesitated before using it

Indeed sanctioned. But nowt wrong with it. It's just that it could end up conveying either of two opposed meanings.

I'm told that the editor of one august journal was in the habit of replying to the legions of hopefuls that he would "waste no time in reading their paper". Clearly such behaviour should be sanctioned.