Ah, those pesky cyclists, always stopping at red lights… Doesn’t quite have the same ring to it, does it?
But that was the rather bewildering accusation thrown yesterday at Cork-based cyclist John – whose clips of poor driving from his Rightobikeit Twitter account have been featured previously on the blog and Near Miss of the Day – by a van driver unhappy that the cyclist had come to a stop… in a bike box… at a red light.
In the clip, as John stops at the traffic lights (coming to a halt in a designated painted section of the road designed to give people on bikes space), the impatient van driver immediately blares his horn, before opening and leaning out of his door to accuse the “very, very dangerous” cyclist of “jamming on his brakes”.
“At a red light? Really?” the baffled cyclist responds. “The lights are red, and you’re supposed to stop if you can.
“You’re responsible to stop a perfect distance away from me. I stopped at a red light!”
The video, posted on Twitter last night, was met with an equally confused response from John’s fellow cyclists.
“Great, now any time a driver complains about cyclists jumping red lights, we can show them this driver complaining that a cyclist didn’t do that,” wrote Steve.
Meanwhile, another Cork cyclist, Ashling, noted that the junction in question “has a delay between the red light you stopped at and the pedestrian crossing turning green. The pedestrian was already crossing as you stopped, so if you had done as he said was he going to run over the pedestrian.”
I’m not sure the van driver took that into consideration if I’m honest, Ashling…
“The absolute f'ing irony,” says Bob. “‘Cyclists need number plates because they don’t stop at red lights’. Also: ‘Why did you stop at that red light!’”
As John noted on Twitter last night, yesterday’s incident wasn’t the first time that he has been subject to those startling levels of cognitive dissonance:
But remember – cyclists, red lights, hi-viz, and so on…
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It would seem that those identifying as liberals are not a homogeneous group either
Good lord! You mean - drum roll! - we are all individuals?
Who knew?
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We aren't either.
we agree
So. Do you know your number then?
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Yes, you are truly unique... just like everybody else.
A while back I was on my motorbike and the lights started to change, so I stopped rather than run the light. The van driver behind beeped his horn and leaned out of the window, shouting. I just pointed to the red light. Some people are idiots.
Yep, not uncommon; had one not long ago who whined plaintively, "Just my farkin' luck to get behind the only cyclist in London who stops for reds!" Even more usual to the point of commonplace is getting the horn, if you'll pardon the expression, for refusing to pull off through the flashing amber on a pelican until the pedestrians are safely across. Is it the refusal to conform to their sterotype of what cyclists do that makes them so cross?
Yeah: not pulling away early enough seems to wind some people up far more than not running a red light.
It'd be really useful if somebody could collate a booklet of how drivists would like cyclists to behave on the roads.
They could package it as some kind of code we abide to while on the highways.
Perhaps one day, that booklet could be enshrined into law.
Here you go: https://road.cc/content/forum/real-highway-code-299003
You're right - if only someone had the presence of mind to do such a thing and publish it in a handy paper format
Cyclist bang to rights. Cycling on the road, using provided cycle infrastructure, obeying the Highway Code. Probably even wearing hi viz, a helmet and using lights. Of course that's going to provoke a reaction for some Internet clicks, or something.
I once stopped at a red light. The car behind me clearly wasn't expecting it (it's very common for motorists to run the lights at that spot). I didn't see the car stop but I heard them and when I looked back they weren't that far from my back wheel. I did look back just in time to see them get rear-ended by the car behind them though.
I've had a couple of hairy ones where I've stopped, and the car behind has swerved around me to continue through an amber / red light.
I've noticed I've developed a shoulder check before I get to a green light. Seeing how closely I'm being tailgated helps me work out if I should slow on amber or not.
That and listening to the sound of the engine, I've had to do a few dives to the left to avoid being rear ended after deciding to stop at amber.
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