MGIF driver ignores blue flashing lights police car; Jeremy Vine correctly predicts congestion figures were "completely garbagified" for anti-cycle lane headlines; Ned's nose wasn't at No10 party; Specialized shower; Cav's TDF + more on the live blog

I felt that was quite balanced - if anything, he was poking fun at the at naysayers.

Shitty, grim story.

It was a summary when I read it but now has been fleshed out with some more serious details. Four blokes in your house at 2 am is nasty.

Pyro Tim wrote:

Nothing really wrong with that overtake. Gave room, got by with plenty of time, without causing either themselves or the police to change speed or line.

Not sure how you can say that when the overtaking car blocks the camera's view of the oncoming police car for a considerable period in which we can't see whether the police driver slowed or not. One would imagine s/he at least had to lift off slightly to check that the oncoming driver was going to return safely to their lane. At the very least it was presenting a totally unnecessary distraction for the oncoming emergency vehicle that could have been avoided by waiting approximately two seconds for it to pass and then overtaking the cyclist.

Pyro Tim wrote:

Too many people panic and stop when a police car is coming the opposite direction, when there is no need to. The only reason to do so is to make space if their lane is blocked

Not stopping when an emergency services vehicle is approaching in the opposite lane is perfectly reasonable; pulling into that lane when you can clearly see they are coming, even if you think there is plenty of time for you to complete your manoeuvre, is not acceptable.

Totally agree on that incident. Didn;t think much in if for both the cyclist or the Police Car.

Although last week a Police Car and Van came shooting passed me on the way to something. As they approached the lights here  they were on red for the Police, however the cars coming from the left had stopped to let them through. Didn't stop some twonk come around the the cars past the refuge on the wrong side and almost t -bone into one of the cars. They had to carry on to where the original call was and twonk carried on ahead of the other cars, turned right and put his turbo chargers going to speed away. I really really hope the Polcie caught the reg on the vehicles cameras to do him afterwards.

It's in a 30mph zone so there is something wrong

Did he volunteer it, though, or was it more like...

"You want me to say it?"

"I want you to say it, yes!"

"You'd like the word?"

"The word..."

"... 'bicycles'."

For some reason I thought that was from the previous KYTV and not Day Today. 

Mine shows I was out on the bike in south Lincs at 9:30 on the morning of the 19th (my wife's birthday), so I am pretty sure I wasn't in Downing Street the night before!

I was at a Christmas Party for MP's.  A solo Must Pedal session on the Turbore.

Ned should be a politician - using a video dated Dec 7th as an alibi for where he was on Dec 18th ( or did I misread it?)

belugabob wrote:

Ned should be a politician - using a video dated Dec 7th as an alibi for where he was on Dec 18th ( or did I misread it?)

Yes. Tweet date 07 Dec 2021. Nasal music date he says is 18 Dec 2020.

TheBillder wrote:

belugabob wrote:

Ned should be a politician - using a video dated Dec 7th as an alibi for where he was on Dec 18th ( or did I misread it?)

There you go then - thanks for correcting me, and reinstating my faith in Ned
Yes. Tweet date 07 Dec 2021. Nasal music date he says is 18 Dec 2020.

Perhaps he meant he hadn't been booked to play nose recorder as part of the entertainment. If he wasn't booked who was? The truth is out there.

brooksby wrote:

One for hawkinspeter (if about as far off topic as you can get...).

Man builds mini village for squirrels in his back garden, complete with a Christmas cabin and an infinity pool

https://metro.co.uk/2021/12/08/man-builds-mini-village-for-squirrels-in-...

Nice! Eight foxes and a badger, too?

And the lion shall lay down with the lamb, and play in the infinity pool...

Unfortunately the BBC rarely admits they were wrong - even when they are gratuitiously biased and half their own organisation objects.

This one is a great case in point - again coming from their regional news teams, they literally used quotes from someone themselves who had admitted sexual assault :

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/nov/04/bbc-changes-online-artic...

Secret_squirrel wrote:

Unfortunately the BBC rarely admits they were wrong - even when they are gratuitiously biased and half their own organisation objects.

This one is a great case in point - again coming from their regional news teams, they literally used quotes from someone themselves who had admitted sexual assault :

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/nov/04/bbc-changes-online-artic...

although as I recall some people did resign over correctly reporting that the government had exagerated the threat from Iraqi WMDs in an intelligence dossier.

Much water under the bridge since then unfortunately.  I do get why the Beeb behaves the way it does, and frankly its a good 100% better than the rest of the MSM in general, if only because it doesnt tend generate outrage for eyeballs.

It does score some spectacular own goals though, and currently suffers from too much fear of its political masters.   I dont think appeasement works in the current culture war climate.  I dont believe preserving the BBC at all costs until its Pravda should be their current mission.  Better to call them out head on whilst the Beeb is still thought of relatively fondly and has allies.

Agree with you.

It's a bit like George Monbiot defending nuclear power:  a bad day with nuclear power is better than a good day of coal power (DYOR; it's a metaphor not an EIA).

Similarly, Auntie's bad day is a whole lot better than the Daily Fail's g... does the DF have a good day?

GMBasix wrote:

Agree with you.

It's a bit like George Monbiot defending nuclear power:  a bad day with nuclear power is better than a good day of coal power (DYOR; it's a metaphor not an EIA).

Similarly, Auntie's bad day is a whole lot better than the Daily Fail's g... does the DF have a good day?

IAF, a bad day with nuclear power leads to everyone being told to duck and cover, and cities being abandoned...

brooksby wrote:

GMBasix wrote:

Agree with you.

It's a bit like George Monbiot defending nuclear power:  a bad day with nuclear power is better than a good day of coal power (DYOR; it's a metaphor not an EIA).

Similarly, Auntie's bad day is a whole lot better than the Daily Fail's g... does the DF have a good day?

IAF, a bad day with nuclear power leads to everyone being told to duck and cover, and cities being abandoned...

<Kryten> IAF?  Are you sure, sir?  The Inuit Art Foundation was completely absolved of most of the nuclear power plant disasters of the 20th century. </Kryten>

Those aren't bad days for nuclear, they are catastrophic days, the cumulative global impact is modest to date.  Meanwhile, good days with coal are resulting in countries submerging.  As I say, I don't think he intended it to be too literally analysed.