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Confusion as driver blames 20mph zone for preventing her overtaking cyclists... despite them riding at the speed limit; Huge Drum & Bass On The Bike crowd; Thibaut Pinot retirement party; Anyone for cycling limbo?; Weekend round-up + more on the live blog

Welcome to the start of a new week on the road.cc live blog, Dan Alexander getting things kicked off for you this Monday

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09 October 2023, 10:41
Confusion as driver blames 20mph zone for preventing her overtaking cyclists... despite them riding at the speed limit

Here's a brainteaser for your Monday: if a road user is travelling at exactly 20mph in a 20mph zone, and there are other road users in front also travelling at 20mph, why would there be any need for the road user behind to overtake the other road user in front? 

That's the question the internet is trying to answer after one person's TikTok about a newly introduced 20mph speed limit in Wales caused some befuddlement...

The "reality" of the speed limits, the social media sharer claimed, is that when "going at 20mph" she has been behind "these cyclists for about four miles" without being "able to overtake them" because... "they're actually cycling faster than me going at 20mph".

"I'm going 20mph and I cannot overtake these bikes".

Sounds like, dare I say it, the rules of the road working perfectly as intended? Scary stuff...

Some questioned the point of the video, one reply asked then "why would she need to overtake the cyclists?" Another keen to know "if there were no bikes there what speed would she be doing?"

It's not the first eyebrow-raising reaction to Wales' introduction of default 20mph speed limits we've seen... there was that bloke on Twitter who reckoned the recent media coverage of Russell Brand was all a plot to distract from the introduction of lower limits. Then there was the person who claimed driving instructors were being forced to lengthen their lessons because they simply couldn't cover the necessary distance in an hour. The internet's a fun place, isn't it?

Anyway, here's our report into the initial analysis of Wales' 20mph speed limit implementation from transport and public health data analysts Agilysis...

> "Far more pleasant for walkers and cyclists": 20mph speed limit analysis hailed "astonishing", with drivers' journeys just 45 seconds longer

09 October 2023, 15:44
Meanwhile in the Netherlands...
09 October 2023, 14:39
Cycling's newest bucket list monster climb — 18km at 10%

The Tour of Turkey isn't the first race that comes to mind when we think of monster climbs. But maybe it should, given tomorrow's stage features possibly the most fear-inducing ascent we've seen for quite some time...

Tour of Turkey climb (Strava)

And the race organisers reckon it's three kilometres longer than that, all at an average gradient of 10.3 per cent, with nine of those kilometres above 12 per cent. Add in what looks like a 'challenging' surface, with potentially even a cobbled sector, and tomorrow's looking like a particularly grim day to be a sprinter.

09 October 2023, 14:33
Unreleased Merida Silex raced to victory at Gravel World Champs by Matej Mohorič
09 October 2023, 13:25
Cycling UK's Big Bike Revival receives £4 million funding boost from Active Travel England
Big Bike Revival (Jordan Gibbons/Cycling UK)

Cycling UK's Big Bike Revival will receive another £4 million of funding from Active Travel England. The programme, which provides funding for events designed to improve cycling skills, including 'learn to fix' or 'learn to ride' sessions, as well as led rides run through community groups and not-for-profit organisations.

Funding has now been confirmed until March 2025, with 2022 figures showing that over a third of people who took part in the programme switched to cycling for some or all of the short journeys they previously travelled by car.

"I'm delighted that we can now reach even more people than before through the Big Bike Revival," Cycling UK chief executive Sarah Mitchell said. "We know what an impact the programme has had from talking to some of the 700,000 people who have taken part over the past decade. Many of them have changed the way they travel after coming along to a Big Bike Revival event.

"We estimate that over 40 per cent of adults in England have access to a bike, but only one in six of them cycles more than once a week. So this significant new funding will enable us to spread the benefits of cycling to even more communities, improving health and wellbeing and saving people money in a cost of living crisis."

09 October 2023, 12:37
Speeding driver who screamed at cyclist after hitting and leaving him with life-changing injuries spared jail
09 October 2023, 10:06
Thibaut Pinot retirement party
Thibaut Pinot Lombardia 2023 (RCS)

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In some people's eyes, more important than any of the boring old who won this who won that was the retirement party of Thibaut Pinot, just as it did on the penultimate stage of the Tour de France, taking over Il Lombardia... 

Bowing out at the race he won in 2018, Pinot brought the curtain down on a career filled with promise, challenges, victories, disappointments and heartache, all followed closely by the support of a cult following that most athletes could only dream of.

Thibaut Pinot Lombardia 2023 (RCS)

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Completing 14 seasons with the team currently known as Groupama FDJ, Pinot broke through with a 2012 stage victory at the Tour de France, willed on by directeur sportif Marc Madiot's famous shouted 'encouragements'.

As with any promising French climbing talent, a fate also suffered by his contemporary Romain Bardet, Pinot's career unfolded to the backdrop of never-ending speculation about if he could end the French drought and win the Tour de France? A podium finish in 2014 was as close as he came.

Four DNFs at his home Grand Tour, most recently in 2019 having been third on GC after the first week, only to lose time on the sprint stage to Albi, drop further back in the TT, win atop the Tourmalet, move up to fourth the day after, and abandon the race on stage 19 having been 1:50 off the yellow jersey the night before.

Ultimately, the touted Grand Tour-winning heights were never reached, but many a more successful pro cyclist has retired without a tenth of the fanfare and acclaim that Thibaut Pinot took on Saturday afternoon...

09 October 2023, 08:52
Weekend round-up: Aero vs lightweight; Brompton Bike Hire managing director blasts Rishi Sunak's "cyclists versus drivers" rhetoric; Reviews; Racing + more

So, what happened in the cycling world while you were busy riding your bike this weekend and not sat at work procrastinating the Monday morning away?

Cycling signs (copyright Simon MacMichael) (17)

The managing director of Brompton Bike Hire became the latest voice within the cycling industry to criticise Rishi Sunak's recently announced batch of "proudly pro-car" policies, describing the prime minister's attempt to halt the so-called 'war on motorists' as "wedge politics" and an "artificial construct" which will "hopefully blow over given time".

Elsewhere, in the racing world, Tadej Pogačar completed his Il Lombardia hat-trick on Saturday, while Kasia Niewiadoma won the UCI Gravel World Championships...

Tadej Pogacar wins 2023 Il Lombardia (picture credit LaPresse/RCS Sport)

> Tadej Pogačar wins Il Lombardia for the third time in a row with solo attack

Then, yesterday, Matej Mohorič added a men's UCI Gravel World Championship victory to his impressive palmares ahead of a stacked field that included Wout van Aert and a not-so-retired Alejandro Valverde. Our favourite story to come out of that, however, was Nathan Haas being forced to ride the event on a museum Colnago after his bike was lost in transit.

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And our video team have been busy looking into the pros and cons of aero vs lightweight with the help of Ribble.

> Aero vs lightweight road bikes with Ribble: How much faster could an aero bike make you?

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Surly cross check Pat's

> Farewell to the Surly Cross-Check, one of the first 'gravel' bikes that is now officially discontinued

09 October 2023, 08:47
Cycling limbo
09 October 2023, 08:44
"Should ​the DJ Dom Whiting ever visit a city near you for one of his Drum & Bass On The Bike rides, my advice is that you shouldn’t pass up the chance to pop along"
09 October 2023, 08:29
Drum & Bass On The Bike: The story so far
Drum and Bass on the Bike Bristol (Dom Whiting)

Here's your 90-second rundown of Drum & Bass On The Bike, in case this is your first time hearing about the city-hopping cycling celebration...

It's the creation of High Wycombe-based DJ Dom Whiting who had the genius lockdown idea of retrofitting a trike with decks and speakers, live streaming himself riding around a town or city blasting tunes. Better than another 5km run or banana bread loaf.

"It started during the lockdown, through pure boredom really," Whiting told road.cc in June. "We couldn't have music at the time, we couldn't do this, we couldn't do that. It was just one of those crazy lockdown creations, that now takes up a hundred percent my life! The whole thing was a complete accident in that I didn't expect it to evolve the way it has." 

The format was born and has grown in popularity since, Whiting's early days seeing just himself or a handful of people showing up. Now, hundreds or thousands turn up every time.

Dom Whiting bike - via Instagram

From Brighton to Berlin via just about every major UK city, Barcelona, Dublin and more, Drum & Bass On The Bike fever has spread, his full ride videos getting hundreds of thousands of views on YouTube where he has 232,000 subscribers.

"I don't want to put a limit on where I think this will go, because there is no end goal," he told us recently. "There's no way you can say we'll stop at 4,000, 5,000 people, because you could have 10,000 and facilitate that with more sound.

"The variety of people that turn up, it just kind of makes it all worth it. Even if it does cost me fucking three or four, five grand a time, you can't really put a price tag on the feeling."

For more, check out editor Jack's sit-down interview with the DJ behind it all...

09 October 2023, 08:03
"Phenomenal experience": Huge Drum & Bass On The Bike crowds light up latest city

The challenge for Dom Whiting was working out how to best last year?

From the footage we've seen doing the rounds on social media since yesterday, that would be a yes...

Not bad for a series that started with Dom's one-man rides live streamed online, now attended by hundreds, perhaps thousands of people enjoying riding bikes through their city in a safe, party atmosphere. While we're going to keep this a positive post it might be amusing to point out how the plan to return to Sheffield caught the attention of one Facebook group dedicated to opposing active travel plans in part of the city.

"The velociraptor cycle gangs are planning terrorist action to bring Sheffield to a standstill this weekend. We must stand up to this vile behaviour, we cannot allow the terrorists to win."

Sorry, pal. Think everyone's too busy enjoying a bike ride to join the resistance...

Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too.

Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he's not working you'll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he'll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he's a bit strange like that.

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brooksby replied to HoldingOn | 1 year ago
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Clever girl.

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the little onion replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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Whoever made that comment was so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn't stop to think if they should.

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mark1a replied to NickSprink | 1 year ago
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Lethal at eight months...

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chrisonabike replied to mark1a | 1 year ago
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The problem is they're really cute up to that point...

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wycombewheeler replied to chrisonabike | 1 year ago
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chrisonatrike wrote:

The problem is they're really cute up to that point...

I'll take your word for that, I've never successfully hatched one.

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