Near Miss of the Day 501 (UPDATED): HGV driver said he had to cut corner because of fast oncoming traffic

Or you could come to a stop before proceeding in a spot that allows you to turn as safely as possible.. You could even sound your horn.

Or you could actually turn into the correct lane in the first place.

Doesn't look possible for a large vehicle to make the turn without encroaching. Poster Chris mentioned buses in that corner earlier.

hirsute wrote:

Doesn't look possible for a large vehicle to make the turn without encroaching. Poster Chris mentioned buses in that corner earlier.

Far from ideal for HGVs to make this turn at all. turning right here requires turning through 160 degrees. Far better for the wagon to have taken the previous right turn (Gallowstree road). With this junction being only 2km away from the vehicle owners premesis the drivers should be familiar with the junction and not use it.

Me too. I'm sure it's my fault some how 

Oddly, I didn't see any oncoming traffic, let alone any fast ones.

Wow.  That is spectacularly incompetent. Par for the course is for someone to pitch in with post hoc insight like, "It was obvious what was going to happen",  "The cyclist put himself in a dangerous position", "He should have slowed down", "He should have taken primary". You've heard it all before.  Personally, I can see nothing whatsoever in mitigation for the driver. 

I'd be minded to claim against them for personal injury - that's going to stay with him a very long time.  This speaking as the innocent party in a hit and run - we're not victims now, just witnesses, you will recall. 

nniff wrote:

Wow.  That is spectacularly incompetent. Par for the course is for someone to pitch in with post hoc insight like, "It was obvious what was going to happen",  "The cyclist put himself in a dangerous position", "He should have slowed down", "He should have taken primary". You've heard it all before.  Personally, I can see nothing whatsoever in mitigation for the driver. 

I'd be minded to claim against them for personal injury - that's going to stay with him a very long time.  This speaking as the innocent party in a hit and run - we're not victims now, just witnesses, you will recall. 

Section 170 - If the PRESENCE of the vehicle causes harm or injury to persons or property - details MUST be provided - check over the bike (& you) for harm, & discuss claim with BC/CUK?

You could have popped into their site down the road and reported it directly to the site manager.

I'm sure they'll be aware of the junction and maybe tell their drivers to try not to kill cyclists there because it's bad for publicity?

I was in no condition or desire for a possible confrontation at the site -  just wanted home & cup of tea ASAP. 

ChrisB200SX wrote:

You could have popped into their site down the road and reported it directly to the site manager.

I'm sure they'll be aware of the junction and maybe tell their drivers to try not to kill cyclists there because it's bad for publicity?

These guys

PEPPARD BUILDING SUPPLIES LIMITED

Licence details (OH2016512)

Directors

Arthur Nicholas John Butler

Richard Lance Butler

Licence type
Standard National

Licence status
Valid

Continuation date
31 Dec 2023

Traffic area
West of England

Contact details

Address
Peppard Building Supplies, Bishopsland Farm, Dunsden, Reading, RG4 9NR, GB

Operating centres

Operating centre 
BISHOPSLAND FARM, DUNSDEN, READING, RG4 9NR, GB

Vehicles 8

Trailers 0

Transport Managers

Name
RICHARD LANCE BUTLER

Not on CLOCS Register?

Class 6 mirror looks a bit askew. Class 1 mirror patched up with an alloy plate bolted on to front face - DVSA might take an interest? Often a detail gets them interested & they start looking more closely

CUK had a case with the regulator in Kent,  where a Company started using a farm site down a narrow lane with a width restriction - had  no planning permission for change of use, and no one had raised access issue on O Licence application.  The number of truck movements was restricted to 2 per day per truck, and they were given a directive to move to a more suitable location. Same with company whose manager was driving truck that killed at The Bank - using a farm as operating base, and licence prohibited use of specified lane to access the site

Stoke Row Road cuts the corner vs staying on B481, looks a bit narrow for regular through HGV traffic. Perhaps a case of 'Except for Access' condition

A V Lowe wrote:

Stoke Row Road cuts the corner vs staying on B481, looks a bit narrow for regular through HGV traffic. Perhaps a case of 'Except for Access' condition

It would cut the corner if the lorry had been approaching from the south and turning into Stoke Row Road, but in the case almost certainly longer as the lorry was coming from the north. either he was delivering onto stoek row road itself, or using this junction added 600m to the journey. Perhaps he missed the previous junction.

Squirrels have a bad rep on this site. Expect no sympathy!