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Giant TCR Advanced Pro 0

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£3,799.00

VERDICT:

9
10
An exceptionally good race bike that combines stiffness and light weight, and a really strong spec
Weight: 
6,830g

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The Giant TCR Advanced Pro 0 is a marvellous race bike that's just been redesigned to be a little lighter than before yet just as stiff.

When you jump on the TCR, the first thing you notice is just how solid it feels when you put the watts in, particularly through the centre of the bike. With some bikes, particularly lightweight ones, the bottom bracket will go walkabout when you give it a lot of force to handle, but there's virtually no side-to-side movement here, certainly not when you're seated.

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Get out of the saddle to maximise your power or chuck the bike about on a steep climb and the whole thing feels impressively strong and rigid. That's all the more surprising because the TCR doesn't look the most burly frame in the world. Don't get me wrong, it looks sturdy enough, but not massively overbuilt, Giant having slimmed down the tubes noticeably for 2016. It could still handle everything I could summon up and throw at it. The bigger you are and the more watts you put out, the more valuable that will be.

Giant TCR Advanced Pro 0 - riding 2.jpg

Giant says the rigidity is down to what it calls its Powercore design. This is an oversized bottom bracket/chainstay area with an 86mm-wide BB and asymmetric chainstays. The idea is that this adds stiffness to the driveside, where it's needed most.

Giant TCR Advanced - bottom bracket

Then there's the MegaDrive down tube (everything has to have a technical-sounding name these days). It's rectangular in section and is the part of the frame that most looks like it means business.

Giant TCR Advanced - front brake 2

The front end is equally robust. Giant uses oversized bearings at both the top (1 1/4in) and the bottom (1 1/2in) of the head tube. This is what it calls its OverDrive 2 system (other brands do something similar). The lower bearing has been moved very slightly higher in the head tube for 2016 so that it's more inline with the down tube, designed to improve the transfer of force to the frame.

The tapered head tube and the fork steerer keep the bike tracking beautifully when you hit the corners hard and fast, and the knowledge that you're going to get the performance you want allows you more options when duking it out close to other riders. The TCR feels like a well-tuned race machine in this respect – which is exactly what it is. The fork is actually a touch lighter than previously although Giant says that it also boasts increased rigidity. That's a clever trick if you can pull it off.

Giant TCR Advanced - fork

Climbing is another strength. Our complete bike in a large sized test model weighs 6.83kg (15.1lb) and it scales the heights with a real energy. It's well up for climb after climb, feeling like it's working for you on the slopes, egging you on, rather than a dead weight that you're dragging uphill against its will.

I'm a big fan of the 52/36-tooth Shimano Dura-Ace chainset that you get here. If I was forced at gunpoint to choose one chainring combo for all situations (an unlikely scenario, I'll admit), that would probably be it. Granted, persuading the chain to move up from a 36-tooth chainring is occasionally more difficult than from a 39, but it's worth it for the lower gears on offer that allow you to keep spinning quickly on the steep stuff, rather than honking along out of the saddle. The 36x28 gear is pretty small for a race bike (33.8in, to be precise) but, hey, you might find yourself using it from time to time. I did, and it's cool to have as an escape plan if things get really tough.

Giant TCR Advanced - drive train

Giant has given the TCR Advanced Pro a new Variant seatpost for 2016 in a proprietary shape. It's designed to improve the ride quality. The frame is built to Giant's Compact Road Design with a sloping top tube so you're likely to have plenty of that seatpost extending out of the frame – I had masses. The result is that you get quite a bit of movement at the saddle to help deal with second-rate road surfaces. And third-rate ones, come to that. The TCR Advanced Pro doesn't isolate you from road bumps and vibrations to the same extent as some other road bikes out there, but for a race bike it's pretty smooth.

Giant TCR Advanced - seat post junction

If you want more comfort, you could always switch to wider tyres. The TCR Advanced Pro 0 comes fitted with Giant's own P-SLR1 tyres in a 23mm. They actually measure about 24mm on the Giant SLR 0 wheels (more on those in a mo), according to the road.cc vernier callipers. I'm a little surprised Giant doesn't do these in a 25mm width, that being what all the kool kidz are using these days. The frame could easily take them.

Giant TCR Advanced - rim

I found the saddle pretty agreeable too. It's Giant's Contact SL Forward design from its new performance range. The key features are the carbon base and the Particle Flow Technology. Two separate pockets of padding contain free-flowing particles – they move around to conform to your shape. According to Giant, this reduces pressure points by more than 20 per cent (that's something else everything has to have these days: a quantified improvement!).

Giant TCR Advanced - saddle

I couldn't give you a percentage – my butt isn't that well calibrated – but I can tell you that I found it to be a very good saddle with a reasonable amount of give and not too much width across the nose (a pet hate of mine). I didn't give it a whole lot of thought when I was out on the road, and that's usually a good thing. Cycling's hard enough (or it can be), without you having to worry about saddle comfort.

In terms of geometry, the 2016 TCR Advanced bikes have changed very little over the previous incarnations, the largest differences to stack (the vertical distance from the centre of the bottom bracket to the top of the head tube) and reach (the horizontal distance between those points) across the five model sizes being 0.7mm, and some of them being completely unchanged.

Giant TCR Advanced

We have the large sized model in for review, with a 58cm top tube, an 18.8cm head tube, and 73-degree frame angles. It's certainly a race-orientated geometry, although it's not extreme. It depends what you're after, of course, but the TCR Advanced offers a fit that'll appeal to a lot of performance-minded riders.

I won't gibber on too much more about the geometry, you'll be pleased to know, but the sloping top tube does grant you quite a low standover height, if that's something that appeals to you. It's 80.5cm on our large model.

Right, that's enough numbers, let's move on. The TCR Advanced Pro has a frame and fork made from Giant's Advanced-Grade composite which, in turn, is produced from Toray T700 raw carbon fibre in Giant's own composite works. This is Giant's second highest grade of composite, the top-end TCR Advanced SL bikes – there are three complete bikes priced from £2,999 to £5,499 – using Giant's Advanced SL-Grade composite made from T-800 raw carbon fibre.

Giant TCR Advanced - top tube

Check out our First Ride on the Giant TCR Advanced SL from last summer. 

The TCR Advanced Pro is available in three different models with the same frame and fork: the Shimano 105-equipped TCR Advanced Pro 2 at £1,799, the Ultegra-equipped TCR Advanced Pro 1 at £2,599, and our TCR Advanced Pro 0 at £3,799.

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This bike is fitted with components from Shimano's top-level Dura-Ace groupset, with mechanical rather than electronic shifting. The only exception to the Dura-Ace motif is the KMC X11SL chain. Dura-Ace is excellent across the board, the braking a particular highlight. To save repeating ourselves, you can find our detailed review of the entire groupset here

Giant TCR Advanced - shifter

Everything else comes from Giant's own range, including the excellent new SLR 0 clincher wheels I mentioned earlier. These are built in-house using full composite, tubeless-compatible rims (30mm high, 23mm wide) and Giant's own alloy hubs, the rear one with a DT Swiss star ratchet freehub.

Giant TCR Advanced - front hub

Giant says, 'The all new SLR 0 climbing wheelsystem features Giant's breakthrough Dynamic Balanced Lacing (DBL) technology which ensures rear wheel spoke tensions are balanced under load – not while static. The result of years of development with Giant engineers, product designers and pro athletes, DBL produces a wheel that offers improved acceleration and climbing response along with durability, while optimised anchor points increase lateral stiffness for exceptional cornering performance.'

The wheels are light (a claimed 1,331g the pair) and very stiff, making for top-notch climbing and even better cornering, and complementing the character of the frameset well. The rim depth makes them a versatile choice, while the SLR pads deliver a firm bite in both dry and wet conditions. They're superb wheels that would cost you £599.99 (front) and £799.99 (rear) if bought separately.

Giant TCR Advanced - front brake

Overall, the Giant TCR Advanced Pro 0 is a really impressive bike: lightweight and stiff with a top-level groupset and wheels that are equally accomplished. This is a very strong proposition.

Verdict

An exceptionally good race bike that combines stiffness and light weight, and a really strong spec

road.cc test report

Make and model: Giant TCR Advanced Pro 0

Size tested: Large

About the bike

State the frame and fork material and method of construction. List the components used to build up the bike.

Frame Advanced-Grade Composite

Fork Advanced-Grade Composite, Full-Composite OverDrive 2 Steerer

Handlebar Giant Contact SL

Stem Giant Contact SL

Seatpost Giant Variant Composite

Saddle Giant Contact SL Forward

Shifters Shimano Dura-Ace 22 speed

Front derailleur Shimano Dura-Ace

Rear derailleur Shimano Dura-Ace

Brakes Shimano Dura-Ace

Cassette Shimano Dura-Ace 11x28

Chain KMC X11SL

Crankset Shimano Dura-Ace 36/52

Bottom Bracket Shimano PressFit

Wheels Giant SLR 0 WheelSystem

Tyres Giant P-SLR1, 700x23mm, Front and Rear Specific, Folding

Tell us what the bike is for, and who it's aimed at. What do the manufacturers say about it? How does that compare to your own feelings about the bike?

Giant says, "From long, hard training rides to critical moments in a race, this is total race performance, made for your podium quest.

"The all-new TCR Advanced Pro gives you every advantage on the road – climbing, descending, cornering and sprinting. Through superior engineering and composite manufacturing, the re-designed Advanced grade composite frame sheds weight without sacrificing its best-in-class stiffness. Legendary Compact Road race geometry delivers precise handling with aggressive riding positioning. The all-new Variant seatpost adds to its smooth, efficient ride quality and performance."

It's a lightweight and stiff race/performance bike, essentially.

Frame and fork

Overall rating for frame and fork
 
9/10

Tell us about the materials used in the frame and fork?

The frame and fork are made in-house from Giant's Advanced-Grade composite, which starts out in life as T700 carbon.

Tell us about the geometry of the frame and fork?

The geometry has been tweaked only very slightly with the redesign. It's a race-focused geometry.

How was the bike in terms of height and reach? How did it compare to other bikes of the same stated size?

It's a race geometry, so fairly long and low.

Riding the bike

Was the bike comfortable to ride? Tell us how you felt about the ride quality.

Yes, it's smooth enough although not as yielding as some more endurance-focused bikes. Swapping the 23mm tyres for 25s would add a bit more forgiveness to the ride.

Did the bike feel stiff in the right places? Did any part of the bike feel too stiff or too flexible?

It feels very stiff, especially through the centre, which is exactly what you want in a bike of this type.

How did the bike transfer power? Did it feel efficient?

Yes, this is the bike's strongest characteristic.

Was there any toe-clip overlap with the front wheel? If so, was it a problem?

None.

How would you describe the steering? Was it lively, neutral or unresponsive? Neutral. About what I'd expect on a bike of this kind.

Tell us some more about the handling. How did the bike feel overall? Did it do particular things well or badly?

Cornering, particularly fast and tight cornering, is a real strength.

Which components had the most effect (good or bad) on the bike's comfort? would you recommend any changes?

The saddle is a winner. It's worth trying out Giant's new saddle fit system to match you to the most suitable saddle from the range. http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-gb/showcase/saddles/

Which components had the most effect (good or bad) on the bike's stiffness? would you recommend any changes?

The wheels are excellent. Lightweight and stiff, they complement the frame superbly.

Rate the bike for efficiency of power transfer:
 
9/10
Rate the bike for acceleration:
 
9/10
Rate the bike for sprinting:
 
9/10
Rate the bike for high speed stability:
 
8/10
Rate the bike for cruising speed stability:
 
8/10
Rate the bike for low speed stability:
 
8/10
Rate the bike for flat cornering:
 
9/10
Rate the bike for cornering on descents:
 
9/10
Rate the bike for climbing:
 
9/10

The drivetrain

Rate the drivetrain for performance:
 
9/10
Rate the drivetrain for durability:
 
8/10
Rate the drivetrain for weight:
 
9/10
Rate the drivetrain for value:
 
7/10

Wheels and tyres

Rate the wheels and tyres for performance:
 
9/10
Rate the wheels and tyres for durability:
 
9/10
Rate the wheels and tyres for weight:
 
9/10
Rate the wheels and tyres for comfort:
 
7/10

You could easily swap the 23mm tyres for 25s once they wear out. I would.

Rate the wheels and tyres for value:
 
8/10

Controls

Rate the controls for performance:
 
9/10
Rate the controls for durability:
 
8/10
Rate the controls for weight:
 
9/10
Rate the controls for comfort:
 
9/10
Rate the controls for value:
 
7/10

Your summary

Did you enjoy riding the bike? Yes

Would you consider buying the bike? Yes

Would you recommend the bike to a friend? Without a doubt.

Rate the bike overall for performance:
 
9/10
Rate the bike overall for value:
 
8/10

Use this box to explain your score

This is a great bike with top-end components, including excellent wheels. It's a clear 9.

Overall rating: 9/10

About the tester

Age: 43  Height: 190cm  Weight: 75kg

I usually ride:   My best bike is:

I've been riding for: Over 20 years  I ride: Most days  I would class myself as: Expert

I regularly do the following types of riding: commuting, club rides, sportives, general fitness riding

Mat has been in cycling media since 1996, on titles including BikeRadar, Total Bike, Total Mountain Bike, What Mountain Bike and Mountain Biking UK, and he has been editor of 220 Triathlon and Cycling Plus. Mat has been road.cc technical editor for over a decade, testing bikes, fettling the latest kit, and trying out the most up-to-the-minute clothing. He has won his category in Ironman UK 70.3 and finished on the podium in both marathons he has run. Mat is a Cambridge graduate who did a post-grad in magazine journalism, and he is a winner of the Cycling Media Award for Specialist Online Writer. Now over 50, he's riding road and gravel bikes most days for fun and fitness rather than training for competitions.

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Nixster | 8 years ago
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They have longer reach and lower stack than Defys. If you size up you may find the extra reach a struggle although some of that could come out of the stem length. 

Personally I find a racier geometry suggests a smaller frame rather than larger. 

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Friggo | 8 years ago
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Anyone know how the TCR frames size up against the Defy? I own a defy in M, but didn't know whether to size up to M/L for a TCR.

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DaveL75 replied to Friggo | 7 years ago
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Friggo wrote:

Anyone know how the TCR frames size up against the Defy? I own a defy in M, but didn't know whether to size up to M/L for a TCR.

I was told that the range is sized consistently so if you're a M on a Defy then you should fit a M TCR (if you're flexible enough of course).  

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mcgroup53 | 8 years ago
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I owned an original Giant TCR and rode and raced it for several years before handing it down to my son. I went through a couple of Cannondales and ended up on the previous generation TCR Advanced 1, which has been my main bike for the last several seasons. I agree with your review, but somehow I've never felt much passion for either Giant. Solid, workmanlike, dependable race bikes, no quirks or discernable flaws, but somehow they just weren't terribly exciting to ride. I'm moving on to a Specialized Venge Expert, which I hope will have some soul to its ride, something that spurs me to ride longer and ride more often, to push past my limits and find new ones. Interesting that our perceptions of great bikes matter as much as their actual performance, isn't it?

 

Dave M

@mcgroup53

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kitkat | 8 years ago
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Mat Brett wrote:

Then there's the MegaDrive down tube (everything has to have a technical-sounding name these days)

Ah yes, the Mega Drive, the Master System, N64 and the Super Famicom.... does that cover all their tube technologies?  1

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hampstead_bandit | 8 years ago
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I found the old TCR frame was a great 'efficient' workhorse but after riding last year's TCR Advanced Pro 1 for a month, I found it a little dull and workmanlike; it lacked that magic feel of classic frames like the Super Six Evo or S Works Tarmac

During the Summer of 2015 I got to test ride the same model as seen in this Road.CC review at Redbridge Cycling Centre (Hogg Hill) during a rain storm (!!)

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Never ridden the Redbridge circuit before, never ridden the bike before - a little hairy braking in the rain on carbon wheels until I got used to the circuit, but the bike was simply incredible and really changed my perception of the TCR.

I don't know exactly what Giant did as the geometry was almost identical but the "feel" of the new frame is a huge improvement as the new frame has a livelyness the old one lacked, and does not feel 'bulky' like the old model. The most noticeable trait was the incredible response to pedal input, the bike literally leaps forward on each stroke which I've felt in very few bikes in the past, regardless of trying different wheel sets.

 

I've asked Giant about their use of Toray T-700 and T-800 in the past (when some brands use T-1000) and they've specifically said its all about the quality of construction (layup), ratio of resin/fibre, quality of the fibre cloth (they make their own in-house from raw Toray Filament, whereas others buy in pre-impreg cloth), formulation of resin (they make their own in house) and in their case 100% of the frame is made from Toray.

Many brands will use pieces of T-1000, and actually use pieces of non-Toray (i.e. Hitachi / Mitsuibishi) to save costs rather than the expense of going 100% toray, and have a higher ratio of resin to cloth to save money, which actuallly makes the frame heavier and softer

 

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adam900710 | 8 years ago
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It's glad to see Giant redesigned the frame and removed the super creaking water-drop shaped seatpost, and make rear cable/wire exit more electronic shifting friendly.

 

It's pretty awesome for the weight-stiffness ratio, especially when Giant is still using T-700/T-800 while others are already using T-1000 and even T1000K for their weight-stiffness frames.

 

It's too bad that I'm waiting for Canyon Ultimate Disc, or I would haved ordered one nowno

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peted76 | 8 years ago
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I want one.. now i just need to get a new job so I can have one.

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Rapha Nadal | 8 years ago
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Lovely, thank you!

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Rapha Nadal | 8 years ago
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Apologies if I've missed this but does it come as just a frameset?

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dave atkinson replied to Rapha Nadal | 8 years ago
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Rapha Nadal wrote:

Apologies if I've missed this but does it come as just a frameset?

yes

 

http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-gb/bikes/model/tcr.advanced.pro.framese...

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