Pressure drop – Cinelli launches Pressure aero road bike for 2021

EddyBerckx wrote:

nice looking bike but a lot of money to pay for an aero bike with no wind tunnel test data?  (For what it's worth)

cycling weekly are now suggesting it's an open mould - making it seem even more expensive tbh

Is it really a lot of money though? Ultegra disc groupset with 30mm carbon wheels for £3,800 seems about market rate to me.

It's definitely an open mould though, you can recognise different elements of the frame from other designs... 

However, using open moulds is not necessarily a bad thing, its something done by many know manufaturers, especially when starting out. Cinelli have used standard framesets for years.

Also, just because the mould is open, it doesn't stop Cinelli controlling other elements of the frame, for instance the choice of using T700 carbon. 

I'd be interested to know if the bars come as part of the frameset, if so, then we are talking about a totally different kettle of fish value wise, as those are £600 bars. 

My favourite ever bike was a CInelli, which also used an open mould frame... don't diss it until you've tried it. 

EddyBerckx wrote:

cycling weekly are now suggesting it's an open mould - making it seem even more expensive tbh

Indeed. Quite a strong family resemblance to the Yoeleo R9 (and quite a few other frames).

https://www.yoeleobike.com/products/road-bike-frame-carbon-disc-brake-r9

slappop wrote:

EddyBerckx wrote:

cycling weekly are now suggesting it's an open mould - making it seem even more expensive tbh

Indeed. Quite a strong family resemblance to the Yoeleo R9 (and quite a few other frames).

https://www.yoeleobike.com/products/road-bike-frame-carbon-disc-brake-r9

 

Erm, no. That R9 is clearly from a completely different mould. Just a few differences I noticed very quickly - seat clamp, chain stays, rear dropout area, material behind head tube is at different angle.

I can understand why you think they are the same though, as the key design features are the same, as with the majority of aero bikes (dropped seat stays with a wide junction at seat tube, seat tube that partially wraps/follows radius of the rear tyre, deep headtube section, triangular join of seat tube and top tube), fork crown that's recessed a little into the down tube/head tube join.

I don't think they're the same, I said "family resemblance". There are a lot of slight variations on that design floating around China. Here's another one:

https://assets.bigcartel.com/product_images/253971608/%EB%A7%88%ED%95%98...

I think it's a bit of a coincidence that the Cinelli boffins scratch their heads for a bit and come out with something barely different from an FM087...

What does "Open Mound" mean ? Kindly explain.

j_vora wrote:

What does "Open Mound" mean ? Kindly explain.

An open mould frame is one that's built using moulds that are available on the open market. The mould essentially is what shape your frame is. Using an open-mould frame is essentially a cost saving exercise, as you don't have to do the R&D required to develop a new frame. An analogy would be baking a cake that you're going to sell- if you're a reknowned chef working in a bakery that sells expensive cakes, you might develop your own unique recipe. But this takes time and experience, and you need to test different ingredients to make sure it doesn't taste shit. Alternatively, if you don't have the time or experience or resource to do that, you could download a recipe and follow that. You might be a good baker, and so the finished product might be of high quality (analogous to the comment above about specifying carbon layups, etc. Cinelli will also have control over the QC process), but it won't be as unique as the cake the chef developed theirself. 

You can see an example of a frame mould here.

The Cinelli Pressure is identical in shape to other bikes out on the market, for example the Atom6 Strada. But it's not clear as to whether Cinelli essentially buy the frames, put them through a QC check, and paint them, or whether they have purchased moulds and are building the frames using their own plant / equipment. 

Hope that makes sense.

Phony Queen and Beatlemania have bitten the dust: Grab a copy of the Clash's London Calling. Then [come out of the cupboard you boys and girls!] do a search for photos of a somewhat battered Fender belonging to Bassman Paul Simonon.
I, I live by the river....

Follow rule 5 and grab a copy of the soundtrack to 'The harder they come'

pockstone wrote:

Follow rule 5 and grab a copy of the soundtrack to 'The harder they come'

Good idea. But: The BB "PRESSURE " sticker and the "PRESSURE" sticker  on the guitar.... London calling to the imitation zone ?

Well spotted...

I hope that fork stands up to abuse better than the neck of PS's bass did!

And not a word about it on the tyres. Typical, huh.

That's tame. My bike says 'Canyon' on it 17 times. 

Amateurs... my bike tells me it's a Wilier no less than 27 times, along with other exciting sounding things like a Monocoque System and a Pro Race.