Strade Bianche Rider List

drheaton wrote:

Enrique, do you have a job? Or do you just sit all day looking at the road.cc rider lists searching for spelling mistakes and missing riders?

I can see you don't appreciate the job I do making sure the game start lists are accurate and we don't share the same enthusiasm for getting the spelling of people's names right, but that's ok... I have the consolation that if any rider came here and saw their mispelled name corrected they'd feel like they have true fans here and that's good enough for me.

enrique wrote:

drheaton wrote:

Enrique, do you have a job? Or do you just sit all day looking at the road.cc rider lists searching for spelling mistakes and missing riders?

I can see you don't appreciate the job I do making sure the game start lists are accurate and we don't share the same enthusiasm for getting the spelling of people's names right, but that's ok... I have the consolation that if any rider came here and saw their mispelled name corrected they'd feel like they have true fans here and that's good enough for me.

And I can see that you still don't appreciate the fact that startlists are constantly changing until the last minute and that, as useless as you appear to think those running the game are, we will update them. Unfortunately we all have other things to be doing with our lives around running the game and as such cannot react within minutes to the latest change in rosters. Roster updates are usually done every couple of days up until a few days before a race starts at which point any changes are usually updated daily.

What's more, we check lots of sources and believe it or not we know what we're doing, for example we know that the 'official' startlist is usually at least a couple of weeks out of date by the time a race opens on the game and that even those rosters listed on teams website are usually crap when we get to 2-3 days out from a race.

That's why roster updates are forever a work in progress and will always be slightly out of date from the 'current picture'. That's also why players are always encouraged to look at rosters themselves separate from the game because they may be more up to date and why the new feature was rolled out ensuring that when a rider is removed from a roster who is in your team you are informed.

I'm sorry that you don't appreciate all the work that goes into this and that we don't live up to your expectations but we do our best.

drheaton wrote:

I'm sorry that you don't appreciate all the work that goes into this and that we don't live up to your expectations but we do our best.

I very much do appreciate all the work that goes into this game. I am very fond of this game, its simplicity and its beautiful design. I love it. I know you know it.

And I know you, Dave and TER are incredibly dedicated, careful and thorough. I actually admire (!) your work and thoroughly enjoy it. You have no bigger fan. The game has more (!) than lived up to anyone's expectations, much less mine. It has grown to simply be the best out there and I think everybody here knows it.

You have misjudged or misread or misunderstood my writing. I am incredibly invested in this game.

Please, though you may find it annoying, take my pointing out that a rider or a team is missing as nothing more than an observation, not as a judgement of your work, just see it as a very avid game player, though not a very competent one, being quite enthusiastic about making sure all the riders in a race are in the game. I'm sorry to have hurt your feelings. Wanna hug it out?

Classic scene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZvarRe-XVQ

enrique wrote:

drheaton wrote:

I'm sorry that you don't appreciate all the work that goes into this and that we don't live up to your expectations but we do our best.

And I know you, Dave and TER are incredibly dedicated, careful and thorough.

You missed Gkam...

drheaton wrote:

You missed Gkam...

I care a lot about you, dan. I really do. And I respect your work as well as Dave's and TER's. Don't be fooled by my rhetoric and my play with words. I just want things to be ok between you and me. Are we ok? You do understand I care a lot about this game, don't you? I care about its design, its development, the developers and their work, and the experience for all of us. Everything I point out may not be especially relevant, but it comes out of a true desire to make this the best, most complete Fantasy Cycling experience out there. Can you see that? I am totally absorbed and dedicated to this game, as if I was part of this. Can you see that? As for Gkam, he's got a big heart, and he's a great part of this team, but he's not on my radar screen right now. You are. Are we ok?

Here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0nQytOk_JU

More hugs. And Gkam can have one, too.

enrique][quote=drheaton wrote:

You missed Gkam...[/quote re a lot about you, dan. I really do. And I respect your work as well as Dave's and TER's. Don't be fooled by my rhetoric and my play with words. I just want things to be ok between you and me. Are we ok? You do understand I care a lot about this game, don't you? I care about its design, its development, the developers and their work, and the experience for all of us. Everything I point out may not be especially relevant, but it comes out of a true desire to make this the best, most complete Fantasy Cycling experience out there. Can you see that? I am totally absorbed and dedicated to this game, as if I was part of this. Can you see that? As for Gkam, he's got a big heart, and he's a great part of this team, but he's not on my radar screen right now. You are. Are we ok?

Here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0nQytOk_JU

More hugs. And Gkam can have one, too.

Really .....do yourself and us a favour stop with the youtube links and a word of advice , you asking ppl if they want a hug sounds patronising.

You started off this year really well and now you are reverting back to how you were a yr ago , your alias and it's use in trying to support ur own posts hasn't helped and neither does ur sig about it .....

I'm being polite for the games you have run but use your head and listen to what people who run the game tell you otherwise you will have another year of ppl ranting at you

enrique wrote:

IAM Cycling's 3.0 rider 'Primin' Lang should be 'Pirmin'...

somebody keeps changing Songezo Jim's name to Jim Songezo too. STOP IT.

Dave Atkinson wrote:

somebody keeps changing Songezo Jim's name to Jim Songezo too. STOP IT.

Heh heh... Always think of doing that when I see that name...

About Strade Bianche, could you guys add the Neri sottoli.it - Yellow Fluo team to the start list, please? Thanks!

Dave Atkinson wrote:

enrique wrote:

IAM Cycling's 3.0 rider 'Primin' Lang should be 'Pirmin'...

somebody keeps changing Songezo Jim's name to Jim Songezo too. STOP IT.

I,rather patronisingly,always think of him as 'Sonny Jim'!!

however I do follow him on twitter so we're quits!!

Dave Atkinson wrote:

enrique wrote:

IAM Cycling's 3.0 rider 'Primin' Lang should be 'Pirmin'...

somebody keeps changing Songezo Jim's name to Jim Songezo too. STOP IT.

Race TV has just called him Jim Songezo!

enrique wrote:

I may be wrong but I think this is the official start list:

http://www.gazzetta.it/Speciali/StradeBianche/2011/it/download/SB-Iscrit...

Atl least it's got the official Strade Bianche and RCS Sports logos on it

(Courtesy of @StradeBianche)

It can be found at the Gazetta site:

http://www.gazzetta.it/Speciali/StradeBianche/it/

when you click on "Inscriti" under 'Info Generali'

Your right that what you are showing is official, my point being that it was out of date and published over 2 weeks ago, one rider being on that list gives it away. So Dave was waiting for reconfirmation of official team