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Giro stage 10

My team for today.

Nacer Bouhanni (FDJ)
Rafal Majka (TSB)
Rigoberto Uran (OPQ)
Giacomo Nizzolo (TFR)
Roberto Ferrari (LAM)
Enrico Gasparotto (AST)
Fabio Aru (AST)
Davide Appollonio (ALM)
Ivan Rovny (TSB)

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enrique | 10 years ago
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Can anyone of the admins acknowledge they're aware of the situation?...  39

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enrique | 10 years ago
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Is something wrong or is it that no one in the admin ranks has noticed it's still updating?...  39

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Joelsim replied to enrique | 10 years ago
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Is something wrong or is it that no one in the admin ranks has noticed it's still updating?...  39

It's stuck

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enrique | 10 years ago
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What's taking the update so long?  39

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Joelsim | 10 years ago
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It appears to be stuck

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enrique replied to Joelsim | 10 years ago
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It appears to be stuck

Gkam, are you on duty today?  45

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Joelsim | 10 years ago
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Joint combativity award on Fuga, is that 5 points each for Bandiera and Fedi?

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enrique replied to Joelsim | 10 years ago
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Joint combativity award on Fuga, is that 5 points each for Bandiera and Fedi?

10 each  4 I hope..  39

I'm so happy to see the updating occuring so quickly... That (!) I don't miss about California!  4

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TERatcliffe26 replied to enrique | 10 years ago
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enrique wrote:
Joelsim wrote:

Joint combativity award on Fuga, is that 5 points each for Bandiera and Fedi?

10 each  4 I hope..  39

I'm so happy to see the updating occuring so quickly... That (!) I don't miss about California!  4

Are you trying to say I was slow at doing the update for ToC. I do have to have the results before I can update

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enrique replied to TERatcliffe26 | 10 years ago
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Are you trying to say I was slow at doing the update for ToC. I do have to have the results before I can update

No, no, no, not at all... I like the way you work, I was just not crazy about having to wait till the California transfer window closed for the results to be updated... We're good...

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VVV73 replied to enrique | 10 years ago
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enrique wrote:
TERatcliffe26 wrote:

Are you trying to say I was slow at doing the update for ToC. I do have to have the results before I can update

No, no, no, not at all... I like the way you work, I was just not crazy about having to wait till the California transfer window closed for the results to be updated... We're good...

Are you kidding Enrique, after the debacle last time, this is by far the best way to do things, race has been run and won, it won't change. Priorities my friend.  1
You also have to be aware of were the results are coming from, we don't all live in Europe:)

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Joelsim | 10 years ago
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1,2,4,13 plus GC for Uran, Aru, Majka. No penalties. 138 by my calculaaation.

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drheaton | 10 years ago
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1,2,4,8,9,15 plus standings points. I make that 141 which probably won't set the world alight but should be solid. Annoyed Mezgec didn't do better but that's racing, if only I'd picked Matthews instead...  20

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Alan Tullett replied to drheaton | 10 years ago
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1,2,4,8,9,15 plus standings points. I make that 141 which probably won't set the world alight but should be solid. Annoyed Mezgec didn't do better but that's racing, if only I'd picked Matthews instead...  20

I was originally going to pick Mezgec over my usual Ferrari but in the end went Matthews as I thought he was more likely to do something tomorrow and he seems to have the better form. Only brought in Bouhanni otherwise and swapped Chicchi for a 3 rider I hope will do something later. Still got a transfer in hand and may or may not bring in a rider for the break tomorrow as I want a strong team for the TT, much more predictable than sprints with their crashes. Although penalties aren't expensive if you've got table points already it's a risk bringing in a sprinter. I swapped Uran out to afford Bouhanni but with him coming 13th it wasn't a big profit. Glad I didn't swap Evans though! I'll probably drop a bit today but not too much as it's tricky to afford Bouhanni and Nizzolo and keep all the good scoring GC riders. Ferrari again would have been the clever pick. That guy rarely crashes!

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Joelsim replied to Alan Tullett | 10 years ago
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Alan Tullett wrote:
drheaton wrote:

1,2,4,8,9,15 plus standings points. I make that 141 which probably won't set the world alight but should be solid. Annoyed Mezgec didn't do better but that's racing, if only I'd picked Matthews instead...  20

I was originally going to pick Mezgec over my usual Ferrari but in the end went Matthews as I thought he was more likely to do something tomorrow and he seems to have the better form. Only brought in Bouhanni otherwise and swapped Chicchi for a 3 rider I hope will do something later. Still got a transfer in hand and may or may not bring in a rider for the break tomorrow as I want a strong team for the TT, much more predictable than sprints with their crashes. Although penalties aren't expensive if you've got table points already it's a risk bringing in a sprinter. I swapped Uran out to afford Bouhanni but with him coming 13th it wasn't a big profit. Glad I didn't swap Evans though! I'll probably drop a bit today but not too much as it's tricky to afford Bouhanni and Nizzolo and keep all the good scoring GC riders. Ferrari again would have been the clever pick. That guy rarely crashes!

But take that Uran for Bouhanni deal and imagine that it will cost you 10 points to swap him in for one stage (ie you buy 3 sprinters and only have 2 changes), and then you need to swap 3 sprinters back out again the next day.

Uran would have scored 17 in finishing plus GC.

Bouhanni scored 40 today with a win and points.

17 + 10 penalty in + 10 penalty out = 37 points, so you have only actually made 3 points. If Bouhanni hadn't come first then you would have lost out.

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Alan Tullett replied to Joelsim | 10 years ago
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Alan Tullett wrote:
drheaton wrote:

1,2,4,8,9,15 plus standings points. I make that 141 which probably won't set the world alight but should be solid. Annoyed Mezgec didn't do better but that's racing, if only I'd picked Matthews instead...  20

I was originally going to pick Mezgec over my usual Ferrari but in the end went Matthews as I thought he was more likely to do something tomorrow and he seems to have the better form. Only brought in Bouhanni otherwise and swapped Chicchi for a 3 rider I hope will do something later. Still got a transfer in hand and may or may not bring in a rider for the break tomorrow as I want a strong team for the TT, much more predictable than sprints with their crashes. Although penalties aren't expensive if you've got table points already it's a risk bringing in a sprinter. I swapped Uran out to afford Bouhanni but with him coming 13th it wasn't a big profit. Glad I didn't swap Evans though! I'll probably drop a bit today but not too much as it's tricky to afford Bouhanni and Nizzolo and keep all the good scoring GC riders. Ferrari again would have been the clever pick. That guy rarely crashes!

But take that Uran for Bouhanni deal and imagine that it will cost you 10 points to swap him in for one stage (ie you buy 3 sprinters and only have 2 changes), and then you need to swap 3 sprinters back out again the next day.

Uran would have scored 17 in finishing plus GC.

Bouhanni scored 40 today with a win and points.

17 + 10 penalty in + 10 penalty out = 37 points, so you have only actually made 3 points. If Bouhanni hadn't come first then you would have lost out.

To some degree you are right if all transfers cost 10 points but we do have free transfers and to be honest I wasn't expecting Uran to come 13th!! And he wouldn't have done apart from the crash. Also I'm not necessarily going to bring in Uran tomorrow. I looked very carefully at all the table points for each rider I had and made the most efficient transfers possible but unexpected things do interfere in such calculations. That's the beauty of the game. And don't worry about the lead at the top, you were about 80 points ahead of me a while ago, now you're only 29 and your team is not looking that great for the TT or tomorrow unless you have a lot of free transfers left!! I may not even make one transfer for tomorrow as Matthews and Ulissi could do well along with Evans. I could go for a mountain point rider by swapping out Bouhanni for someone as I doubt Bouhanni will make it but even he is worth 5 so it's a risk. But you have to take a few calculated risks to win!

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Joelsim replied to Alan Tullett | 10 years ago
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Alan Tullett wrote:
Joelsim wrote:
Alan Tullett wrote:
drheaton wrote:

1,2,4,8,9,15 plus standings points. I make that 141 which probably won't set the world alight but should be solid. Annoyed Mezgec didn't do better but that's racing, if only I'd picked Matthews instead...  20

I was originally going to pick Mezgec over my usual Ferrari but in the end went Matthews as I thought he was more likely to do something tomorrow and he seems to have the better form. Only brought in Bouhanni otherwise and swapped Chicchi for a 3 rider I hope will do something later. Still got a transfer in hand and may or may not bring in a rider for the break tomorrow as I want a strong team for the TT, much more predictable than sprints with their crashes. Although penalties aren't expensive if you've got table points already it's a risk bringing in a sprinter. I swapped Uran out to afford Bouhanni but with him coming 13th it wasn't a big profit. Glad I didn't swap Evans though! I'll probably drop a bit today but not too much as it's tricky to afford Bouhanni and Nizzolo and keep all the good scoring GC riders. Ferrari again would have been the clever pick. That guy rarely crashes!

But take that Uran for Bouhanni deal and imagine that it will cost you 10 points to swap him in for one stage (ie you buy 3 sprinters and only have 2 changes), and then you need to swap 3 sprinters back out again the next day.

Uran would have scored 17 in finishing plus GC.

Bouhanni scored 40 today with a win and points.

17 + 10 penalty in + 10 penalty out = 37 points, so you have only actually made 3 points. If Bouhanni hadn't come first then you would have lost out.

To some degree you are right if all transfers cost 10 points but we do have free transfers and to be honest I wasn't expecting Uran to come 13th!! And he wouldn't have done apart from the crash. Also I'm not necessarily going to bring in Uran tomorrow. I looked very carefully at all the table points for each rider I had and made the most efficient transfers possible but unexpected things do interfere in such calculations. That's the beauty of the game. And don't worry about the lead at the top, you were about 80 points ahead of me a while ago, now you're only 29 and your team is not looking that great for the TT or tomorrow unless you have a lot of free transfers left!! I may not even make one transfer for tomorrow as Matthews and Ulissi could do well along with Evans. I could go for a mountain point rider by swapping out Bouhanni for someone as I doubt Bouhanni will make it but even he is worth 5 so it's a risk. But you have to take a few calculated risks to win!

Agreed. I wanted to bring Arredondo in, but he is worth 5 plus whatever he gets tmw and then useless for Thurs and Fri.

Have done 3 transfers tonight, all of whom will be useful for the next few stages.

You had a few transfers in the bank coming into this week, then it's a no brainer. NouveauCompte has 5 sprinters in his team, plus two 3.0 riders and no transfers saved so he is going to find it hard over the next few days to keep his lead probably.

I'm saving up for a little plan I have for next week as it happens.

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Joelsim | 10 years ago
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A lot of the top teams had Viviani and Mezgec and not so many had Ferrari, Bouhanni and Nizzolo. A bit of a shake up at the top I think.

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Joelsim | 10 years ago
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And 2 points for points standing I think

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Theinvisiblecyclist | 10 years ago
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1,2,4,8,9.....plus gc points etc ....that crash ruined my day but if Viviani scored anything today I got my FH at least  102

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drheaton replied to Theinvisiblecyclist | 10 years ago
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1,2,4,8,9.....plus gc points etc ....that crash ruined my day but if Viviani scored anything today I got my FH at least  102

I think Viviani bagged 2 points at the intermediate sprint if that helps.

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drheaton | 10 years ago
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Farrar 105th
Appolonio 106th
Gasparatto 142nd
Viviani 147th
Arredondo 161st

Think the last man was Zoidl in 181st.

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Joelsim | 10 years ago
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Apollonio was caught in there, so was Viviani and as far as I can see hasn't come in yet. Can't see Arredondo or Gasparotto either.

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backflipbedlem | 10 years ago
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1 BOUHANNI NacerFDJ.fr 16804:01:13
2 NIZZOLO GiacomoTrek Factory Racing 850,,
3 MATTHEWS MichaelOrica GreenEDGE435,,
4 FERRARI RobertoLampre-Merida225,,
5 BATTAGLIN EnricoBardiani - CSF 118,,
6 GUSEV VladimirTeam Katusha 15,,
7 TIMMER AlbertTeam Giant-Shimano12,,
8 SWIFT BenTeam Sky10,,
9 EVANS CadelBMC Racing Team8,,
10 FINETTO MauroNeri Sottoli6,,
11 HUREL TonyTeam Europcar5,,
12 HAAS NathanGarmin Sharp4,,
13 URAN RigobertoOmega Pharma - Quick-Step3,,
14 PREIDLER GeorgTeam Giant-Shimano2,,
15 MEZGEC LukaTeam Giant-Shimano1,,
16 CHAVANEL SébastienFDJ.fr ,,
17 MONFORT MaximeLotto Belisol ,,
18 TANNER DavidBelkin-Pro Cycling Team,,
19 SIUTSOU KanstantsinTeam Sky,,
20 KISERLOVSKI Robert

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backflipbedlem | 10 years ago
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Big Crash

1 Nacer Bouhanni (Fra) FDJ.fr 4:01:13
2 Giacomo Nizzolo (Ita) Trek Factory Racing
3 Michael Matthews (Aus) Orica Greenedge
4 Roberto Ferrari (Ita) Lampre-Merida
5 Enrico Battaglin (Ita) Bardiani-CSF
6 Vladimir Gusev (Rus) Team Katusha
7 Albert Timmer (Ned) Team Giant-Shimano
8 Ben Swift (GBr) Team Sky
9 Cadel Evans (Aus) BMC Racing Team

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backflipbedlem | 10 years ago
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Big Crash

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drheaton | 10 years ago
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1,2,4,8 and 9 of the top 10. Pity about the crash, wonder if Mezgec/Appolonio/Viviani were stuch behind it?

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backflipbedlem replied to drheaton | 10 years ago
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1,2,4,8 and 9 of the top 10. Pity about the crash, wonder if Mezgec/Appolonio/Viviani were stuch behind it?

dito

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Theinvisiblecyclist | 10 years ago
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Oops  31

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Joelsim | 10 years ago
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heh heh  4

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