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A cyclist's worst sin...

...is to leave a dead CO2 cartridge lying in the road about 50cm from the kerb. Just were another roadie can run over it at speed and have a nice wobble. Or at least be clearly seen and recognise, because 99.99% of none cyclists wouldn't know what it was or what it is for, so it must be alright to just leave it there in the road once you are done with it. A BMW will run over it and recycle it into the tarmac, won't they.

Is it just me seeing spent cartridges all the time now?; or is it some form of cognitive bias? Or perhaps an example of  pluralization of technology, CO2 is much cheaper these days, perhaps more builders on mountain bikes are using it to get to work at under a quid a pop. Is it a sign of the prosperity of the nation or the downfall of society?

 

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robertoegg | 8 years ago
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There are people who discard litter, and there are those who don't. It's not specific to a chosen means of transport.

 

edit - I'm shocked by the amount of crud you see on the side of the road tbh. If you drive up the A3 north of Guildford, it's just a constant stream of litter along the sides of the road. It's really quite sad.

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joemmo replied to robertoegg | 8 years ago
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robertoegg wrote:

There are people who discard litter, and there are those who don't. It's not specific to a chosen means of transport.

 

edit - I'm shocked by the amount of crud you see on the side of the road tbh. If you drive up the A3 north of Guildford, it's just a constant stream of litter along the sides of the road. It's really quite sad.

 

yes, I don't know if the problem is getting worse because there are more disgusting slobs out there or because the council & highways budgets are cut to the bone - but many urban roads seem to be like this. It's shameful.

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CygnusX1 | 8 years ago
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Leviathan -

Most canisters I see around machester are actually nitrous/laughing gas - they are slightly smaller, usually painted grey and are not threaded. Intended for use in creamers, bought by kids for getting high.

The SIS gel wrappers discarded by the marathon runners around Sale and Altricham are annoying.

 

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Leviathan | 8 years ago
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The Manchester Marathon passed through my way a couple of weekends ago, these dangerous velocipedestrians were hogging the road and spreading many false flag gel wrappers everywhere to blame on cyclists.

I will closely examine the next few cartridges I find and report back.

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stenmeister | 8 years ago
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How many gel wrappers are being thrown away because people see the pros throw them away?

Mind you, the biggest litter round the country lanes where I live is lucozade sport and I reckon that's the local runners.

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turboprannet replied to stenmeister | 8 years ago
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stenmeister wrote:

How many gel wrappers are being thrown away because people see the pros throw them away?

Mind you, the biggest litter round the country lanes where I live is lucozade sport and I reckon that's the local runners.

 

Yes and around here I think they're part of the gel problem too. On my ride home there is plenty of banana skins and other running debris all over the place. A few-day-old banana skin makes for a fantastic crash hazard, so "thanks" for that.

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fenix replied to stenmeister | 8 years ago
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stenmeister wrote:

Mind you, the biggest litter round the country lanes where I live is lucozade sport and I reckon that's the local runners.

 

Far more likely to be yobs in Hot Hatches than runners.  I've yet to see a runner lob an empty lucozade - not many drink it  - but teens at the gym clutch it after doing their Set of 3 mins on thr treadmill....

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srchar | 8 years ago
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Discarded gel wrappers really annoy me. As fatbeggaronabike says, it's going to blow up at some point and be used as another stick to beat riders with. I don't understand being squeamish about sticking it back in your jersey pocket. Yes, it's sticky, but surely the jersey is going in the wash as soon as the gel eater gets home?

There is a campaign within clubs and event organisers on the continent to stamp the problem out, but I've seen nothing over here.

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Shades replied to srchar | 8 years ago
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srchar wrote:

Discarded gel wrappers really annoy me. As fatbeggaronabike says, it's going to blow up at some point and be used as another stick to beat riders with. I don't understand being squeamish about sticking it back in your jersey pocket. Yes, it's sticky, but surely the jersey is going in the wash as soon as the gel eater gets home?

There is a campaign within clubs and event organisers on the continent to stamp the problem out, but I've seen nothing over here.

On my one and only Sportive last year people were flinging gel and bar wrappers all over the place; cr*p behaviour!  Mind you I got roped into a village lane hedgerow clean up and was amazed how much stuff had been flung out of cars.  If you're a proper cyclist, you should know better.

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tritecommentbot | 8 years ago
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Can't honestly say I've ever seen a spent one on the road, and I would definitely recognise them as I use them myself. 

 

I do see loads of gel wrappers everywhere here in Edinburgh. Actually, everywhere in Scotland including (especially) the Highlands now. They should start making gels in some sort of quickly biodegrading packets as we're at a point where clearly masses of people don't give a toss and will just throw them on use, be it cyclists, runners, hikers or whoever.

 

The CO2 thing I don't understand. They don't get mucky like a spent gel does and you're not moving when using it. No-one likes putting a sticky spent gel back in their jersey pocket, which is what you have to do basically when you're on the move. Might be a dick move to throw a gel pack, but I can at least see the attraction.

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The Family Cyclist | 8 years ago
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Same with co2 there are a lot of people with punctures round the back of one of the community centres near here. I didn't realise it wasn't CO2 they used for a high and dont think they all do. My LBS has them in a screw top plastic jar on the counter and yes there is the impulse buy aspect but guess they're also there as will slip easily into a pocket.

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Bob's Bikes | 8 years ago
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Round my way you can tell when there's been a "sportive" event because the roads and verges are littered with gel wrappers. Many years ago the anti blood sports mob started a campaign of sorts against anglers using discarded line, bits of tackle and litter as a weapon/way of discrediting them, we have enough motorists and other assorted haters out there without giving them more ammo.

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dottigirl replied to Bob's Bikes | 8 years ago
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fatbeggaronabike wrote:

...we have enough motorists and other assorted haters out there without giving them more ammo.

Already happening - it's been used by the car-loving 'Friends of Richmond Park' in one of their anti-cyclist rants. Not the main body, but many of the little, removable tabs from the tops which are a 'danger to the deer'.

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turboprannet | 8 years ago
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I agree with John Dory. For every 1 CO2 canister I've seen I must have seen a hundred nitrous canisters, if not more. Such is Bristol. 

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Redvee replied to turboprannet | 8 years ago
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turboprannet wrote:

I agree with John Dory. For every 1 CO2 canister I've seen I must have seen a hundred nitrous canisters, if not more. Such is Bristol. 

 

Seeing all the empty NO3 cannisters on a Sunday morning makes me think I ought to try selling them some of my CO2 cannisters at highly 'inflated' prices.

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John Dory | 8 years ago
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Not sure where you're riding and seeing these, but don't confuse CO2 cartridges with Nitros Oxide (laughing gas) cartridges. There's a large nightclub near my place of work in Smithfield, London, and the area is littered with the little silver cylinders, especially after the weekend. Initially I wondered why so many cyclists were having punctures in such a relatively small area until I made the connection? How I laughed at my ignorance!

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